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Moon Exploration: Manned Missions & Moon Bases

Hi, all
I was wondering which country was most likely to next put a man on the moon when i came across this article which claims the Russians plan to have a permanantly crewed moon base by the year 2032. Fascinating stuff, to think that only 20 years from now a crewed stepping stone to Mars may be a reality.
http://io9.com/5463846/which-country-wi ... n-the-moon
 
I'd put my money (if I had any) on a private enterprise. The desire for commercial success is a powerful motivator, and the profits to be made are an equally powerful incentive.
 
I'm not sure that this thread qualifies as Fortean but it's interesting? The OP (gman) thinks that setting up a moonbase is a step towards Mars but why would Russia want to send a manned missions to Mars?
Ronson8 wouldn't be surprised if it was the Chinese. But I think there's an insight in the last lines of the article R8 pointed out:
'But concerns remain over China's intentions.
In 2009, air force commander General Xu Qiliang caused a stir when he said armed forces should prepare for the "inevitable" militarisation of outer space -- a claim hastily disavowed by President Hu Jintao.'

That Hu Jintao called for hush on the subject leads me to the Americans, who are most capable of militarising & claiming the moon as their territory.
You haven't heard the US crowing about it's achievements in space exploration lately. Wonder why? The ISS makes no sense beyond diplomacy?
Public/private finance divide makes no sense anymore? What's the difference between a vast international corporation & a national/continental state anymore?
Meanwhile, on earth, children continue to starve to death...
 
"The United Nations sponsored 1967 "Outer Space Treaty" established all of outer space as an international commons by describing it as the "province of all mankind" and forbidding states from claiming territorial sovereignty.[2] Article VI vests the responsibility for activities in space to States Parties, regardless of whether they are carried out by governments or non-governmental entities. The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 has currently been ratified by 100 states, including all the major space-faring nations. It has also been signed by 26 other nations but not yet ratified.[3]"
 
I doubt very much that the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 can remain forever in an unmodified form. When and if any humans or other sentient beings decide to set up homesteads in space, they won't want some stupid treaty telling them that they can't have territorial rights over their own front rooms.
 
garrick92 said:
MaxtheDog said:
That Hu Jintao called for hush on the subject leads me to the Americans, who are most capable of militarising & claiming the moon as their territory.

I could be wrong, but I think the moon is protected under international treaty from territorial claims.

Whoever gets there first and creates conditions for living, they will live on the moon. Or else the laws can be changed to accommodate those who would like to live there. Anyhow, there will be somebody there by 2030. The Earth is overpopulated, and people would have to go somewhere to live. Uh, i just hope the Earth will have many more years to live.
 
3D printed moon building designs revealed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21293258

The protective shell of the building is designed to be constructed on site by 3D printers

Architects Fosters and Partners have revealed designs for a building on the Moon that could be constructed from material already its surface.

An inflatable structure would be transported from Earth, then covered with a shell built by 3D printers.

The printers, operated by robots, would use soil from the Moon, known as regolith, to build the layered cover.

The proposed site for the building is the southern pole of the Moon.

It is designed to house four people and could be extended, the firm said.

In 2010 a team of researchers from Washington State University found that artificial regolith containing silicon, aluminium, calcium, iron and magnesium oxide could be used by 3D printers to create solid objects.

The latest plans are the result of a collaboration between a number of organisations including the European Space Agency.

The consortium tested the practicalities of using a printer on the Moon by setting up a D-shape 3D printer, which are used to print very large house-sized structures, in a vacuum chamber with simulated lunar material.

'Fascinating and unique'
"As a practice, we are used to designing for extreme climates on Earth and exploiting the environmental benefits of using local, sustainable materials," said Xavier De Kestelier, a partner in the firm's specialist modelling group.

"It has been a fascinating and unique design process, which has been driven by the possibilities inherent in the material."

Buildings on this planet by the architect firm include Wembley Stadium, the World Trade Center in New York and Beijing airport.

Last week US company Deep Space Industries (DSI) announced plans to use asteroid material for manufacture by harvesting them and using 3D printers sent into space.

The company is also developing a bespoke 3D printer called MicroGravity Foundry for the purpose, it said, and hopes to be ready to start production by 2020.
 
'Shrapnel' risk to future Moon surface missions
By Paul Rincon, Science editor, BBC News website, The Woodlands, Texas

The "shrapnel" generated by small space rocks that periodically hit the Moon may pose a larger risk to lunar missions than was previously believed.
A number of countries and private consortia have stated their plans to send robotic and crewed missions to the lunar surface in the coming decades.

A relatively small impact on the Moon last year hurled hundreds of pieces of rocky debris out of the crater.
Many were travelling at the speed of a shotgun blast.
The meteoroid strike sprayed small rocks up to 30km from the initial impact site, said Professor Mark Robinson, from Arizona State University.
He presented his analysis at the 45th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference (LPSC) in The Woodlands, Texas.

Along with colleagues, he used the LROC imaging instrument aboard Nasa's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft to follow up on observations from 17 March 2013 of an apparent collision on the Moon's surface.
The orbiter took pictures of the area that corresponded to co-ordinates for the impact flash.
Prof Robinson and his team found a fresh 18m-wide crater, punched by a 0.3-1.3m-wide space rock. The crater is surrounded by typical "ejecta" deposits - the continuous blanket of rock and soil heaved out when the meteoroid thumped into the lunar surface.

However, they also saw 248 small "splotches" extending up to 30km from the primary crater. This was further than the typical extent for continuous ejecta deposits from a lunar crater.
Prof Robinson interprets these surface splotches as relatively low velocity, secondary impacts into the lunar soil by material flung out in different directions by the primary impact. Using the known facts of the impact, the researchers were able to calculate the energy needed to create the splotches.

"Since they're spread out at great distances, we really need to start thinking that 'secondaries' from small craters pose possibly a larger risk to future long-lived surface assets than the actual primary craters themselves," he told an audience at the LPSC.
"Even though 100m/s is low-velocity, you would certainly not want to be hit with material coming in at 100m/s. That's about the velocity of a shotgun blast."
He said that the LROC team had discovered hundreds of similar splotches around other lunar craters - and that some of these were "directional".

Most of the 33 tonnes of rock that hits the Earth every day burns up high in the atmosphere, never making it to the ground. However, the Moon has only the thinnest of atmospheres, so there's nothing to stop meteoroids from hitting the surface.

There are uncertainties over the rates at which meteoroids of different sizes hit the Moon, but the Lunar Impact Monitoring Program has recorded more than 300 flashes - including this one - since 2005.

The lunar surface remains a high-priority target for exploration by the space agencies of several countries, including not just the US, but China and India. So a better understanding of the risks posed by the lunar environment could be crucial to the success of those missions.

In late 2013, China landed its first robotic rover - Yutu - on the Moon. Not long after landing, the robot suffered a failure, the exact nature of which has not been fully elucidated by the Chinese authorities.

China has also stated its aim of mounting the first human missions to the Moon since the US Apollo programme - something scientists think the country could achieve by the 2020s.

Prof Robinson said the team would soon begin analysing images from Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter of the area on the Moon where a record-breaking impact flash was observed by Spanish astronomers in September last year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26637231
 
The Russians are coming.

Russia will begin Moon colonization in 2030 - draft space program

“We are going to the Moon forever,” the Russian Deputy PM said in April, and it was not just empty words. It appears Russia does plan to colonize the Moon by 2030 and the first stage of the ambitious project may start as soon as two years from now.

That is according to a leaked draft document that Izvestia newspaper claims to have obtained. It was prepared by the Russian Academy of Sciences, the Roscosmos federal space agency, Moscow State University and a number of space research institutes.

“Moon is a space object of the future reclamation by Earth civilization, and in XXI century there might be a geopolitical competition for lunar natural resources,” the authors of the draft project state in the opening line.

This is why it is important to focus on creating an arsenal of necessary means in advance, they stress.

“The Moon is not an intermediate point in the race,” Russia’s Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin who is in charge of space and defence industries said back in April. “This process has the beginning, but has no end. We are going to the moon forever.”

The Concept of Russian Lunar Program, as it is titled according to the paper, outlines a three-step plan toward manning the moon.

The first stage is planned to start in 2016 and last until 2025. This is when Russia, should everything go well, will send four automated rovers to the moon Luna-25, Luna-26, Luna-27 and Luna-28.

As the document states, earlier Soviet and American lunar expeditions established that the Moon contains aluminum, iron, titan, and many other useful elements. Scientist think it will be possible to mine some of the Moon's natural resources for terrestrial use.

The first lunar bases will be built in the vicinity of moon's poles, authors assume, because they are the areas of tangential lighting which means the polar mountains will be the “areas of continuous lighting” while the plains will be in shadow.

The task of the first stage of the Russian Moon program would be to conduct tests into the physical and chemical properties of lunar polar regolith and water content as well as to scope out the South Pole in order to find the best mineral rich spot for a future deployment of a lunar base.

The second stage of exploration, planned between 2029-30, envisions sending manned missions to the moon's orbit. The researchers however are not planning landings on the lunar surface at that stage. For this stage the Russian Rocket Space Corporation Energiya is developing a heavy piloted cargo spaceship.

The expeditions planned for a third stage between 2030-2040 include a visit by cosmonauts to the selected site on the Moon surface to survey the area and set up the initial elements of the base’s infrastructure. At this stage the construction of a space and Earth monitoring observatory on the Moon will also begin, according to the plan.

The cost for the first stage of the mission is expected to be around 28.5 billion rubles ($815.8 million). Russia would hope to attract private investors to help finance the project, the report said, as it will need to finance the building of the spaceship that according to 2012 estimates would add 160 billion rubles ($4.5 billion)

But while potentially wanting to enlist foreign sponsors, the authors of the project stresses that the “independence of the national lunar program must be ensured regardless of the conditions and the extent of the participation in it by foreign partners.”

Roscosmos told Izvestia that the draft proposals to the Federal space program will undergo a comprehensive expert examination before the project is submitted to the government.
http://rt.com/news/157800-russia-moon-c ... tion-plan/
 
People have felt the excitement of seeing their courageous space heroes embark from the Earth to the moon. Those same heroes went up because, beyond completing the journey, they hoped to—in one word— explore. That has been a problem, said Charles Q. Choi in Popular Science, who referred to the limitations in "hang time."

He wrote, "The Apollo program landed a dozen men there from 1969 to 1972, but they spent a total of only three days and six hours actually walking the surface. That's because they couldn't stray from their lunar lander and its life support."

Now a team of researchers have devised a way to extend a stay and extend the explorers' reach beyond the lunar lander. The answer is in packable, inflatable tents. The astronauts could stray from the lunar lander to spend more time on the actual surface of the moon. The team wrote that, "Instead of returning to base, the astronauts would then enter the habitat, doff their suits,and prepare for a second day of lunar exploration (eat,sleep,hygiene,etc.)."

Boing Boing said that the researchers designed a pill-shaped inflatable moon tent that sleeps two. The tent fills with oxygen. Their paper, which is available online, details their work, and is titled, "An overnight habitat for expanding lunar surface exploration," in Acta Astronautica.

The authors are from MIT (Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics) and from Brown (Department of Geological Sciences). ...

http://phys.org/news/2015-06-habitat-moon.html
 
Think a village on the moon sounds like science fiction? - It could be a reality by 2030, if the head of the European Space Agency gets his way.

Jan Woerner has outlined a vision for replacing the International Space Station (ISS), when it is eventually taken out of service, with a lunar "village" of structures made by robots and 3D printers that use moon dust as a building material.

"I looked into the requirements I see for a project after ISS. As of today, I see the moon village as the ideal successor of the International Space Station for (space) exploration," Woerner said at a news briefing in Paris on Friday.

Woerner made a moon mission a central project when he took the helm of the ESA last July, saying it was a key step on the way to humans eventually flying to Mars.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/01/1...-replace-international-space-station-esa-head
 
I think setting up a moon village would be an excellent exercise.
It would set a useful precedent for a settlement on Mars, as there would be many similar technical issues.
Also, if it all went Pete Tong, it'd be easier to set up a rescue mission.
 
Think a village on the moon sounds like science fiction? - It could be a reality by 2030, if the head of the European Space Agency gets his way.

Hold on isn't this supposed to have happened like sixteen years ago?

Saw a documentary on it, Moon falls out of orbit, they meet loads of aliens.
 
Opinion: We could colonize the moon for just $10 billion — and make it happen by 2022

Lunar lessons could be applied to, say, a Mars project

What if I told you there’s no reason we couldn’t set up a small base on the moon by 2022 without breaking the bank?

The endeavor would cost about $10 billion, which is cheaper than one U.S. aircraft carrier.

Some of the greatest scientists and professionals in the space business already have a plan. NASA’s Chris McKay, an astrobiologist, wrote about it in a special issue of the New Space journal, published just a few weeks ago.

Before we get into the details, let’s ask ourselves: Why the moon? Although scientists (and NASA) don’t find it all that exciting, the moon is a great starting point for further exploration. Furthermore, building a lunar base would provide us with the real-world experience that may prove invaluable for future projects on other planets like Mars, which NASA plans to reach by 2030. The main reason the moon is not a part of NASA’s plan is simply because of the agency’s crimped budget.

NASA’s leaders say they can afford only one or the other: the moon or Mars. If McKay and his colleagues are correct, though, the U.S. government might be able to pull off both trips. All it takes is a change of perspective and ingenuity.

“The big takeaway,” McKay says in a Popular Science issue written by Sarah Fecht, “is that new technologies, some of which have nothing to do with space — such as self-driving cars and waste-recycling toilets — are going to be incredibly useful in space, and are driving down the cost of a moon base to the point where it might be easy to do.”

The document outlines a series of innovations — already existing and in development — that work together toward the common goal of building the first permanent lunar base. ...

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/it-would-cost-only-10-billion-to-live-on-the-moon-2016-03-17
 
Yes! It could even be made safer and more sustainable than the ISS.
Mars can wait.
 
Galactic gold rush: the tech companies aiming to make space mining a reality
Asteroids and the moon contain vast quantities of natural resources, including water, that could be worth billions and fuel a new phase of space exploration



An artist’s impression of Planetary Resources’ Arkyd 200 spacecraft on a mission to mine an asteroid. Photograph: Planetary Resources
Dan Tynan in San Francisco

@tynanwrites
Tuesday 6 December 2016 12.00 GMT


  • Many tech entrepreneurs will promise you the moon. Naveen Jain is hoping to deliver it.

Five years ago, the founder of dotcom search giant InfoSpace set his sights on actual space, creating Moon Express, a startup with the then outlandish goal of mining the moon for minerals.

Last August, Moon Express became the first private company to receive permission from the Federal Aviation Administration to land a craft on the lunar surface. By the end of 2017, it plans to launch its first exploratory mission to our nearest neighbor in the solar system.

If successful, Jain’s company may collect the $25m Google Lunar XPRIZE, which has been promised to the first private firm to land on the moon, travel at least 500 meters and transmit high-definition images back from the surface.

Jain isn’t proposing to drill holes in the moon or strip-mine Mons Huygens which, at 18,000 feet, is the tallest peak on the lunar landscape. Most of the treasure he seeks is on the ground, deposited by millions of meteors that have struck the lunar surface over the past 4bn years. And he hates the term “space mining”.

“Mining has such a negative connotation, people think you’re drilling a hole and destroying things,” he says. “This is more like collecting or harvesting.”

But Jain’s ambitions are much bigger. Like other tech billionaires entering the space race, he hopes to lower the costs of space travel, help enable the colonization of the moon and later Mars – and make a tidy profit along the way.

“To rephrase John F Kennedy, we choose to go to the moon not because it is easy, but because it is a great business,” Jain jokes. “The second reason is the moon is the perfect training ground for going to Mars.”

Robots and snowballs
Moon Express is not the only company aiming to get a piece of the gold rush that’s about to happen hundreds of thousands of miles above our heads.

Deep Space Industries (DSI) is building autonomous spacecraft that can extract materials from asteroids. It expects to launch its first experimental mission in 2017, and send its Prospector 1 autonomous craft to a near-Earth asteroid by the end of the decade, says Meagan Crawford, vice-president of strategic communications for DSI.

Planetary Resources – a company backed in part by Google’s Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, as well as the government of Luxembourg – is also developing technology that will allow it to begin exploring asteroids starting around the year 2020.

What’s out there worth mining? Every element known to mankind, in virtually infinite amounts.

In 2014, the financial services site Motley Fool estimated the mineral wealth of the moon to be between $150 quadrillion and $500 quadrillion – enough to create 500m billionaires. Add in the riches found inside asteroids, and the sky is literally the limit.

The moon, for example, is abundant in Helium-3, an extremely rare element on Earth that could theoretically be used as fuel in future nuclear fusion plants. Asteroids are typically chock full of iron, nickel, cobalt, platinum and titanium.

But the real gold, at least initially, is water. Many near-Earth asteroids are abundant in carbonaceous chondrites that contain a lot of ice, says Crawford. Think of an enormous dirty snowball, winging around the sun at 55,000 miles an hour. Now imagine landing a robot on that snowball that can extract the ice and haul it away.

“Water is the fuel of space,” Crawford says. “The constituent parts are liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen – that’s rocket fuel. We’re also working on technology that uses superheated water itself as a propellant, so you don’t have to separate the oxygen and hydrogen.”

More than 90% of the weight of modern rockets is the fuel, Jain notes. As companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin begin launching reusable vehicles, fuel becomes the biggest cost of going into space. The less of it you have to carry, the cheaper space travel becomes.

In this scheme, asteroids would essentially be gas stations, allowing ships to carry just enough fuel to emerge from Earth’s gravity well, then fill up their tanks as they head toward their final destination.

US Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act, signed by President Obama in November 2015.

While the law stipulates that no nation can claim ownership of an asteroid or other heavenly body (in accordance with the Outer Space Treaty of 1967), US companies will be able to extract and own any materials they find in the great beyond.

Other countries have yet to adopt similar treaties, though Luxembourg is close to passing similar legislation, Crawford says.

“We expect in the next few years there will be several bilateral and multilateral agreements that will settle on an international convention for how this is going to be regulated, similar to how deep-sea mining is handled today,” she says.

‘Shiny things in a stream’
But for now, space mining is an industry still waiting for its moment. Even with SpaceX and Blue Origin slashing launch costs, sending anything into space remains a radically expensive proposition. The market for raw materials to build moonbases or refueling stations to enable busloads of Mars colonists has yet to materialize.

While all three mining companies are planning launches next year, none expect to begin extracting anything of value from space until well into the next decade.

“The cost of space transportation will have to come down drastically before it becomes economical to transport minerals to Earth from asteroids,” notes William Ostrove, aerospace and defense analyst for Forecast International. “If colonies on the moon or Mars become a reality, it may be cheaper to mine resources on asteroids rather than transport them from Earth. But that’s also decades away.”


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The moon’s surface as photographed by Apollo 17. Valuable minerals could be easily available on the surface. Photograph: Nasa
Even then, the first efforts are likely to be modest, says Lewicki. “Gold mining didn’t start as a massive industrial operation with complicated machinery and complex supply chains,” he says. “It started with a Levi’s-wearing gentleman looking for shiny things in a stream and picking them up. Space mining is likely to start out as something pretty simple as well.”

In the meantime, Planetary Resources has begun launching compact Earth observation satellites for use in agriculture, environmental monitoring and energy industries. It allows the company to generate revenue while it waits for the space mining industry to take off, and gives it a chance to test and refine the technology it will use to detect water and minerals in space.
Full story here https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/dec/06/space-mining-moon-asteroids-tech-companies
 
The company that wants to mine the Moon has enough money for its first trip there
Moon Express just got $20 million in funding

Moon Express — the California-based company with hopes of mining the Moon someday — has received full funding for its first trip to the lunar surface, slated for later this year. The company just raised $20 million in its most recent round of financing, and has raised over $45 million in total so far. That money will go toward launching Moon Express’s MX-1E lander, which will explore and take pictures of the Moon’s surface after launching on an experimental Electron rocket.

The company’s funding sources come from venture capital firms Founders Fund and Collaborative Fund, the software company Autodesk, and other private investors, according to Moon Express. “We now have all the resources in place to shoot for the Moon,” Moon Express CEO Bob Richards said in a statement. “Our goal is to expand Earth’s social and economic sphere to the Moon, our largely unexplored eighth continent, and enable a new era of low cost lunar exploration and development for students, scientists, space agencies and commercial interests.” ...

http://www.theverge.com/platform/am...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
Could Moon Miners Use Railguns to Launch Ore into Space?
By Leonard David, Space.com's Space Insider Columnist | April 12, 2017 02:20pm ET

The United States Navy fired a projectile at Mach 6 during a recent test with an electromagnetic railgun, suggesting that early ideas about using such tech to launch payloads from the lunar surface might not be so sci-fi after all.

Mach 6 (six times the speed of sound) is 4,567 mph (7,350 km/h). The escape velocity at the moon is just a shade faster than that — 5,300 mph (8,530 km/h).

The Office of Naval Research work on the EM Railgun launcher is being pursued as a long-range weapon that fires projectiles using electricity instead of chemical propellants. [The Most Dangerous Space Weapons Ever]

Magnetic fields created by high electrical currents accelerate a sliding metal conductor, or armature, between two rails to launch projectiles.

In 1974, Princeton professor and space visionary Gerard O’Neill first proposed using an electromagnetic railgun to lob payloads from the moon.

"Mass drivers" based on a coilgun design could be adapted to accelerate a nonmagnetic object, O'Neill suggested. One application he proposed for mass drivers: tossing baseball-size chunks of ore mined from the surface of the moon into space, where they could be used as raw material for building space colonies and solar power satellites. ...

http://www.space.com/36442-could-mo...ace.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
 
A blast from the past

Elon Musk Named 'Moon Base Alpha' After Grooviest Sci-Fi Show Ever
With the best theme song in TV history.
By Alasdair Wilkins on September 29, 2017
Filed Under Elon Musk, Science Fiction & Space Travel
SpaceX founder Elon Musk has announced that his space exploration plans now include not just Mars but also the moon. Speaking at the International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia, Musk revealed the company’s planned next-generation rocket will make it possible to build a moon base — and the name he picked is just his latest homage to beloved science fiction, in this case, the British cult classic Space: 1999.

During his talk on Friday, Musk appeared moved by the concept art of SpaceX’s future rocket landing on the moon to drop off supplies.

“Yeah,” he said, taking a pause. “It’s quite captivating.”

etc...

https://www.inverse.com/article/369...r&tse_id=INF_3e89e9c0ae2811e7952ec9abf6008d70
 
This'll make things easier for Lunar colonists.

Scientists have fantasised for centuries about humans colonising the moon.

That day may have drawn a little closer after Japan’s space agency said it had discovered an enormous cave beneath the lunar surface that could be turned into an exploration base for astronauts.

The discovery, by Japan’s Selenological and Engineering Explorer (Selene) probe, comes as several countries vie to follow the US in sending manned missions to the moon.

Using a radar sounder system that can examine underground structures, the orbiter initially found an opening 50 metres wide and 50 metres deep, prompting speculation that there could be a larger hollow.

This week scientists at the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa) confirmed the presence of a cave after examining the hole using radio waves.

The chasm, 50km (31 miles) long and 100 metres wide, appears to be structurally sound and its rocks may contain ice or water deposits that could be turned into fuel, according to data sent back by the orbiter, nicknamed Kaguya after the moon princess in a Japanese fairytale. ...

https://www.theguardian.com/science...r-human-colonisation-of-moon?CMP=share_btn_tw
 
This'll make things easier for Lunar colonists.

Scientists have fantasised for centuries about humans colonising the moon.

That day may have drawn a little closer after Japan’s space agency said it had discovered an enormous cave beneath the lunar surface that could be turned into an exploration base for astronauts.

The discovery, by Japan’s Selenological and Engineering Explorer (Selene) probe, comes as several countries vie to follow the US in sending manned missions to the moon.

Using a radar sounder system that can examine underground structures, the orbiter initially found an opening 50 metres wide and 50 metres deep, prompting speculation that there could be a larger hollow.

This week scientists at the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa) confirmed the presence of a cave after examining the hole using radio waves.

The chasm, 50km (31 miles) long and 100 metres wide, appears to be structurally sound and its rocks may contain ice or water deposits that could be turned into fuel, according to data sent back by the orbiter, nicknamed Kaguya after the moon princess in a Japanese fairytale. ...

https://www.theguardian.com/science...r-human-colonisation-of-moon?CMP=share_btn_tw
 
That day may have drawn a little closer after Japan’s space agency said it had discovered an enormous cave beneath the lunar surface that could be turned into an exploration base for astronauts.
I can see how convenient a large on-site reserve of ice water would be. But surely it would be no object for the Powers to excavate a cavern of this size? Especially given the 1/6th gravity - the engineering to keep the lid raised should be a doddle, no?
 
I can see how convenient a large on-site reserve of ice water would be. But surely it would be no object for the Powers to excavate a cavern of this size? Especially given the 1/6th gravity - the engineering to keep the lid raised should be a doddle, no?

Take a lot of time, effort and machinery to create what you get for free with this cavern.
 
Ah, sorry - I should've opened the link - 50km, not 50m. That's no cave, it's a space station. Would indeed be a very convenient crack to park a stolen super star destroyer.
found an opening 50 metres wide and 50 metres deep, prompting speculation that there could be a larger hollow.
This bit threw me.

The geology is interesting. I don't recall any reports of stable rocky caverns on the surface. Looking forward to future updates. Release the Probes!!
 
What they've really found is the entrance to the Death Star. The Moon is hollow inside - it's a frickin' huge spaceship!
 
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