I think as long as the person arrested is unnamed and we stick to the reported facts, we should be on safe ground.
We don't know that there is a serial killer yet. Even if there is, he/she couldn't have operated for so long without the indifference of the hospital management to incredible mortality rate amongst infants.
No, we don't know. But if nobody is named and no charges are brought, there is no harm done here.
Or am I missing something?
The nurse has been named. I won’t repeat the name here as I agree with Ramon that it is inappropriate to demonise the individual when she hasn’t even been charged. The allegations are shocking if true.
The allegations are indeed shocking.
It's not just about demonisation either, there's also the possibility of libel or collapsing a trial. Now you might think that the FTMB being so small could ever have an effect but it's the potential audience which counts.
The FTMB has over 33,000 members, now the vast majority of them are long gone but they are still on the books. So that's quite a significant potential viewing public for any comment in the eyes of the law.
Maybe the mods could perhaps archive any accounts which haven't been active for more than two years.
Yup .. the Daily Fail had her name and picture splashed on their front page today .. not charged ? .. leave her alone. .. and she's been described as geeky and, shock horror, a pole dancer enthusiast ..The nurse has been named. I won’t repeat the name here as I agree with Ramon that it is inappropriate to demonise the individual when she hasn’t even been charged. The allegations are shocking if true.
Details of the arrested person are all over the major UK newspapers so I think any references on the FTMB are unlikely to be the cause of any difficulties with the trial.
Yup .. the Daily Fail had her name and picture splashed on their front page today .. not charged ? .. leave her alone. ..
I know it's a completely different thing but this is the same thing some men have to go through, usually celebrity, when wrongly accused of rape .. trial by media .. she needs to be left alone, hopefully she'll sue if she's innocent ..Yeah, not just the Mail. Pretty much every media outlet in the UK, including the BBC, has reported this. I think the Times published first thogh..
Is there a way we can blame this on the NHS?
You'd think a registered sex offender would be a prime subject of interest but he seems to have slipped under the radar somehow.
Danueal Drayton, 27, of New Haven, Conn., was accused of murdering Samantha Stewart last week. Stewart, a nurse, was found dead on July 17 inside her Queens home.
Stewart’s brother discovered her unconscious with injuries to her neck and head. She was naked and wrapped in a white sheet on the floor of her bedroom.
Her teeth were knocked out and she had injuries to her neck. Authorities pronounced her dead at the scene.
Officials believe Drayton and Stewart met on Tinder. Her family said surveillance footage from a Brooklyn restaurant the two went to before her death helped identify the suspected killer.
Investigators believe Drayton may have used the online dating site and other social media sites to prey on his victims. He allegedly confessed to six other killings, police sources told the Daily News.
Not only did Penny find Silas Boston on Facebook, she found his two sons, Russell and Vince, as well as his fifth wife. She messaged them all but got no immediate reply.
Undeterred, Penny contacted Greater Manchester Police, which contacted the Sacramento Police Department, which, it just so happened, had just reopened the case into the disappearance of Boston's third wife. Renewed hope, at last.
Astonishingly, Boston's sons had told the police that it was an open family secret that their father had killed their mother.
Even more astonishingly, they had spent the best part of three decades trying to convince the police that they had witnessed their father murdering Chris Farmer and Peta Frampton in Guatemala.
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Boston had confided in Russell that he had killed 33 people. If true, that would make Boston one of the most prolific serial killers in American history. He even threatened to kill Russell and his brother, immediately after killing Chris and Peta, to keep his secret safe.
The book is written from a Canadian/American perspective that I really don't think survives the Transatlantic journey. The British stereotype is of the man who has seen and perhaps done terrible things during the conflict returning to Civvy Street and simply refusing to discuss the matter with family (and remaining a lifelong scepticism towards politicians who advocate for war) because it was so common. I dare say that all middle-aged members here will have known or met one or more such men. There were certainly people--men and women--who bore the psychological scars less privately and affected those around them directly and indirectly, but there are broken people in every generation and I cannot see how regular violence or abuse aimed at the offspring affects a child differently because of the root cause of that abuse--which would militate against this being the cause of the 80s serial-killing bump.
My, that was longI saw that too late to post it before heading for the treadmill. I thought it an interesting notion and it does have some supporting evidence, in that current research now supports the idea that damage to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (vmPFC) can cause impulse control and violent behaviours and this can be physical damge, manifested by such things as being repeated banged around the head (e.g as a young child) and also there is some evidence that the vmPFC can be underdeveloped due to emotional abuse, whether overt or simply the emotional withdrawal of a parent or parents.
Psychopathy is typically due to under development of damage to the amygdala, usually lesions caused by infection and sometimes it 'just isn't working', but that doesn't mean violent killing will result. Although a near mute amygdala and damage to the vmPFC has produced some awful people.
Quite a lot of scanned convicted criminals' brains have borne this theory out, although I don't recall what control scans were done. BBC4's "The Mystery of Murder: A Horizon Guide" covered this quite well.
Clearly a proportion of people have the 'potential' to develop into serial killers, a wide ranging term which might apply equally to violent sociopaths, violent psychotics and empathy-less psychopaths. However, there is no 'serial killer type' per se and it turns out that the characters and behaviours of such people, barring the defining one, vary as much as anyone eases.
However, one might see that social conditions such as described could conceivably tip the balance in more potential offenders, rather than 'the norm'. Notwithstanding our innate desire to fit a reason around randomness, you might formulate a careful hypothesis, but I suspect it would be testable.
I may buy the book, but I'd say, sight unseen, I'd like to see statistics for all crimes in which violence were a factor across the periods discussed, as if there is anything in the theory, then one-off impulse violence would be similarly profiled around returning PSTD stricken fathers and/or children raised just by their mother. That would be (for my money) more compelling, but not as attention grabbing if you are selling a book.
Yeah, that's what they all say.My, that was long