Analogue Boy
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Well, whatever it was, it wasn’t Dr Who.
Well, whatever it was, it wasn’t Dr Who.
I am not sure how it tackled Islamic extremism? Manish was a Hindu. His beef (pardon the pun) was with Prem marrying a Muslim. Although I might have missed something.Anyway, apart from that, surprised to see DW tackle Islamic extremism
I know what you mean in this episode although I have mostly been enjoying her performance. I have heard that TV crews often film a later episode first so that by the time they film the first episode that you see, the characters are more settled in the role. Maybe this was the first one filmed?The Doctor though isn't growing into the role at all and is fast becoming a mere caricature.
I am not sure how it tackled Islamic extremism? Manish was a Hindu. His beef (pardon the pun) was with Prem marrying a Muslim. Although I might have missed something.
I am not sure how it tackled Islamic extremism? Manish was a Hindu. His beef (pardon the pun) was with Prem marrying a Muslim. Although I might have missed something.
I know what you mean in this episode although I have mostly been enjoying her performance. I have heard that TV crews often film a later episode first so that by the time they film the first episode that you see, the characters are more settled in the role. Maybe this was the first one filmed?
Overall I quite enjoyed it and it wasn't as preachy as I feared it would be. I liked the way the Doctor dealt with the complaint about "you lot tearing apart our country" by announcing that she would inform Lord Mountbatten next time she saw him. Nicely done.
Well rather him than All British People for All Time!The jibe against Mountbatten, whose partition plan was an attempt to stop the escalating sectarian violence, seemed cheap and misguided too.
Okay fair enough.Er, let's call it religious extremism!
Well rather him than All British People for All Time!
Okay fair enough.
Mountbatten's statement is available here in its entirety.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...oad-to-partition/mountbatten-radio-broadcast/
It is clear that he desperately wanted to hand over control of the entire country to a single Indian government of national unity (which was also Ghandi's wish). The extent of the sectarian violence - chiefly Muslims v Hindus, was so horrendous though that he rushed a partition plan through. And the violence worsened before finally settling into an uneasy peace. Pakistan and India are both nuclear states and the world holds its breath when they square up to each other every few years.
But all that history is probably too nuanced for DW and it's easier just to blame Mountbatten for all the animosity.
Watch this with my daughter, neither of us thought it was great episode but, but I did learn about partition!
so the education bit worked. Even beginning to enjoy Bradley Walsh.
Considering there have been decades of programmes predominantly featuring straight, white and male characters, as far as I'm concerned a show that foregrounds other points of humanity's vast spectrum is to be applauded. Y
That post took me back to my FA referee's training, almost 20 years ago.
If a referee realises he's made a misjudgment in say awarding a penalty to one team which, with hindsight, he doesn't believe he should have given, we were taught that the cardinal sin is to then attempt to compensate by making incorrect decisions in favour of the other side.
I am quite glad of this since I always find the possibility of your loved ones worrying themselves sick while you were secretly on another planet or something a bit stressful.. A bit of adventure and then back to Sheffield in time for tea with Nan!
The TARDIS is telepathic and takes the Doctor to where the Doctor is needed not to where the Doctor wants to go.I am quite glad of this since I always find the possibility of your loved ones worrying themselves sick while you were secretly on another planet or something a bit stressful.
Anyway, it wasn't really that accurate on the way out as they were supposed to be going to Lahore in the 1950's. Not sure how the TARDIS managed to find the pertinent time by itself though.
Far from convinced that's an accurate, or even terribly appropriate, analogy. It could even come across as a little disingenuous. To take such issue with any show, let alone one with such a high profile, foregrounding variants of human other than the thus far dominant ones, something sorely needed and overdue, says far more about you than the programme.
I've always found the complaint that a given show doesn't 'reflect reality' in its ratios of races and genders and so forth just as disingenuous - it's a show, it doesn't have to conform to 'reality', or any given perception of it, just its own rules. DW's rules seem to be variety and diversity, and I applaud that wholeheartedly.
Life's a kaleidoscope - celebrate it.
I just feel a bit uncomfortable with the BBC pitching a programme they have pretty well admitted is aimed at children, depicting certain ethnicities as invariably heroic and others as villainous, not to mention tinkering with history to reinforce that view.
It does feel more like family entertainment than some of the more recent incarnations.
There were times, particularly with the doctors wife stuff that it was all too much effort to try and get to grips with. With this lot i can at least get on the sewing, darning etc without reaching for a note book.
I not at all convinced US Civil Rights and the partition of India are lightweight!