My pleasure! You folks are the ones to have them, too. I know we will have more fun in the future when more comes out..I have to echo what enola and danny said...thanks for the listings....it fits well into the spirit of the board and all things Fortean.
My pleasure! The aliens made me do it..Thanks for all your hard work, Feinman.
Profoundly realised as a, 'sceptical ufologist'!Almost all of them are meteors and bolides, or stars and planets, of course; in some cases the newspaper article even mentions this possibility.
{... checking database...}My pleasure! The aliens made me do it..
Looks familiar...Well, it leaves "tracks of fire", possibly ionized air. Passes through, then comes back! Then perches on top of cloud --perhaps recharging. Described as being made of metal with gems (lights). Sounds like a saucer to me. Perhaps something like this:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufos-scotland-john-macdonald_n_56df560fe4b0b25c917ffd55
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I think it is a really good article! From 1902, I found it by trying to think of synonyms or descriptors for a flying saucer back in the 19th century. I tried "crown" and "sky", and... a direct hit! Not seen in any UFO book I am aware of. Leave tracks of ionized air, flys away, and then comes back! And perches on top of a cumulonimbus cloud to recharge; sprites don't do things like that.Looks familiar...
Is this possibly related to accompanying photos doing the rounds some years back, which, despite howling protests from devotees, I helped establish were actually photographs of a new disco lightshow, published in a magazine - maybe in Germany?
Guess I'm gonna have to delve into the archives and see what I can still find there...
Belter of a UFO report - somehow, oblivious to this beforehand!Notice the similarity of the lights on the Scottish UFO with the Lubbock Lights.. They are very similar in quality:
It could, obviously, never be exactly replicated (it could have been one if several bird species).. is this not close enough though, other than an attribution to a fleet of spaceships from elsewhere in the universe?As far as I know the plover explanation is wrong, and tests were done photographing birds in similar conditions and they failed to create anything like the Lubbock lights, which were seen repeatedly until a picture was finally taken.
Certainly a more likely explanation! Nice work.As an aside... thanks to deliberations...
... One has, quite coincidentally, come across this...
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Now what is that reminiscent of... sure it's something I've especially highlighted before... because I'm aware of the background there...
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Were there any reports of, 'flying discs' before Arnold's utterly misconstrued report?In the '40s discs were reported flying in similar formations.
When I first came across this painting, I wrote to the artist asking if he might please explain the background.Now what is that reminiscent of... sure it's something I've especially highlighted before... because I'm aware of the background there...
The Sternenschiff! 1851. Totally forgotten, one of the best historic sightings, is a disc UFO, but can change shape too:Were there any reports of, 'flying discs' before Arnold's utterly misconstrued report?
I don't actually know the answer to this and wondered who might...
Hey... you'll do just fine!
Ultimately, it's proverbially trying to extract the, 'wheat from the chaff'.
Doesn't help, of course, when we're having to negotiate all the, 'smoke and mirrors', inevitable from previous conceptions in subsequent years!
That's why these early reports are so invaluable and thanks again for uploading such a, 'treasure trove' of same.
{still haven't got much further than page seven yet...}.
Fascinating and a new one for myself.The Sternenschiff! 1851. Totally forgotten, one of the best historic sightings, is a disc UFO, but can change shape too..
The. crown from1902 posted earlier could be a disc.
I've seen those pics; I think it is a hoax. It's pretty clear that "saucers" was used as a blanket catch-all descriptor for a variety of objects people were seeing, especially during the wave in the late '40s and '50s. Actual descriptions of structured craft are very similar to the crown (rimmed with lights, dome or convex top, etc.). Silver crescent objects were watched through theodolites at the aerodrome in Australia (see clipping).Fascinating and a new one for myself.
Terrific online resource there.
So a disc-shaped object, which often isn't a disc at all and a 'crown', which isn't really a disc either.
Is that it then?
Pre-Arnold's misconstrued report, where are the hundreds of other comparable sightings?
They don't exist and a blatantly obvious reason why.
That aside, I mentioned some seemingly compelling saucer photos doing the rounds some years back.
Like I said, they were not trustworthy - although still being championed as ultimate proof by some - and here's an excellent article why:
https://rense.com/ufo/hoax4photos.html
Another great thing about this sighting is the movement of the object uo and diwn and from side to side; there are SO many sightings where the objects do that.. One that comes to mind is the UFO over the town where a Plutonium plant was to be built.This is a good sighting by a RCMP officer from '78, and a telescope is used: