Ogdred Weary
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Qatar has now made it so that if you leave the house without downloading the contact-tracing app, you face 3 years in prison.
I fear we are all going that way.
Qatar has now made it so that if you leave the house without downloading the contact-tracing app, you face 3 years in prison.
Are they going to provide us all with phones that are capable of running the app?I fear we are all going that way.
Are they going to provide us all with phones that are capable of running the app?
And if we get too close to each other the collars automatically explode?Nope, collars.
And if we get too close to each other the collars automatically explode?
This seems all too familiar.And if we get too close to each other the collars automatically explode?
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Hidden by the media?"Five critical care physicians have developed a highly effective treatment protocol for COVID-19. When used with more than 100 hospitalized patients, only two died - both in their 80s with advanced chronic conditions. It's a dream come true, but why won't health officials adopt it?
Protocol Saves 98% of COVID Patients, Hidden by Media
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STORY AT-A-GLANCE
See whole article here:
- Despite the fact that many critical care specialists are using treatment protocols that differ from standard of care, information about natural therapeutics in particular are still being suppressed by the media and is not received by critical care physicians
- Five critical care physicians have formed the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Working Group (FLCCC). The group has developed a highly effective treatment protocol known as MATH+
- Of the more than 100 hospitalized COVID-19 patients treated with the MATH+ protocol as of mid-April, only two died. Both were in their 80s and had advanced chronic medical conditions
- The protocols call for the use of intravenous methylprednisolone, vitamin C and subcutaneous heparin within six hours of admission into the hospital, along with high-flow nasal oxygen. Optional additions include thiamine, zinc and vitamin D
- COVID-19 kills by triggering hyperinflammation, hypercoagulation and hypoxia. The MATH+ protocol addresses these three core pathological processes
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...d=20200529Z1&et_cid=DM547465&et_rid=882306177
You and I might think that but.........Hidden by the media?
Wouldn't doctors just communicate among themselves and ignore the media?
Sadly, a vaccine may well be impossible, and we may need to simply find drugs that chemically treat the virus. All coronaviruses hide within cells very effectively, making the body's auto-immune response largely ineffective in treating the virus. Reinfection is a proven reality. I have been chatting with some virologists, and anyone who thinks we will have a vaccine by this time next year is being ridiculously optimistic. On the other hand, treatments are definitely being developed.We need a vaccine!
Sadly, a vaccine may well be impossible, and we may need to simply find drugs that chemically treat the virus. All coronaviruses hide within cells very effectively, making the body's auto-immune response largely ineffective in treating the virus. Reinfection is a proven reality. I have been chatting with some virologists, and anyone who thinks we will have a vaccine by this time next year is being ridiculously optimistic. On the other hand, treatments are definitely being developed.
Maybe.For what its worth ?
Russians claim to have an effective treatment for the coronavirus, which hospitals will start using this month
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/russia-approves-drug-to-treat-covid-19-hospitals-to-use-in-june.html
?Is their 'effective treatment' in any way, er, 'window related'?
Russian doctors seemed to have formed a habit of 'falling' out of windows.
They would likely win more gold medals at the olympics with those vaccinated.Maybe.
Or maybe the Russians don't care so much about side effects.
I'd actually trust it slightly more these days, if it came from Russia rather than China.And before you knock it for coming from Russia
- What would you think if it came from China?
Thanks, and I agree with you on the timeframe you suggest, and indeed most of your post.I think that's a fairly fair summary so far but given enough time stable vaccines may well be created for the future prevalent Corona C-19 strains. It may well take years, maybe decades or more, for an effective vaccination protocol to be in place.
This is my only point of contention. Our Influenza vaccines are only about 40% effective, as it is up to the virologists to figure out which way the year's mutation will go, and they generally guess it under half the time at the moment. I put it to you, if we need a fresh jab every year and it is only 40% effective, do we really have a flu vaccine? I am not trying to belittle the research, or its validity, or question whether we should keep funding it, as it is good work and fully deserves our support, but let's face facts; it is still falling short of the mark.I am thinking about the highly mutable influenza strains and the fairly effective vaccination protocols we now have. The first vaccine was developed in 1933 and it was only in 1978 that we reached the stage of a multi-strain formula that changes every year.
Thanks, and I agree with you on the timeframe you suggest, and indeed most of your post.
This is my only point of contention. Our Influenza vaccines are only about 40% effective, as it is up to the virologists to figure out which way the year's mutation will go, and they generally guess it under half the time at the moment. I put it to you, if we need a fresh jab every year and it is only 40% effective, do we really have a flu vaccine? I am not trying to belittle the research, or its validity, or question whether we should keep funding it, as it is good work and fully deserves our support, but let's face facts; it is still falling short of the mark.
Now how about this:
Antibody Tests Point To Lower Death Rate For The Coronavirus Than First Thought
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Mounting evidence suggests the coronavirus is more common and less deadly than it first appeared.
The evidence comes from tests that detect antibodies to the coronavirus in a person's blood rather than the virus itself.
The tests are finding large numbers of people in the U.S. who were infected but never became seriously ill. And when these mild infections are included in coronavirus statistics, the virus appears less dangerous.
"The current best estimates for the infection fatality risk are between 0.5% and 1%," says Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security............."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...h-rate-for-the-coronavirus-than-first-thought
So the questions any reasonable persons would ask is:
1. Why did they not follow the other option presented in the beginning
which was to notify the public of the truth and encourage all older and persons with at risk medical conditions to self isolate and cater to this problem demographic rather than wreck the World's economies when right from the beginning they knew ti was a low kill rate disease for most people ??????
2. Where can you find the actual death rate for those people not in the high-risk
category ????
3. What is the motivation??? - Was it really to save lives ???
1. Why did they not follow the other option presented in the beginning
which was to notify the public of the truth and encourage all older and persons with at risk medical conditions to self isolate and cater to this problem demographic rather than wreck the World's economies when right from the beginning they knew ti was a low kill rate disease for most people ??????
Hidden by the media?
Wouldn't doctors just communicate among themselves and ignore the media?
I'd actually trust it slightly more these days, if it came from Russia rather than China.
I wasn't saying I thought it was hidden. I was reacting to the item that AlienView had posted, which claimed that it was hidden by the media.It isn't hidden by the media.
FFS because it's not been properly tested you don't just roll out a "cure all" until you are sure. Unless of course, you want to drink bleach? Think.
You're right, I guess - let's not apply critical thinking to anything!Yes, lets just not apply critical thinking to anything.
Yes, one reason this thread on conspiracy theories on Covid 19 stays popularYou're right, I guess - let's not apply critical thinking to anything!
I'd actually really rather Bill Gates was in no way involved in developing a vaccine I've 30 years experience of being on the wrong end of his business methods and he is completely ruthless, disrespectful of corporate law, and an ego-centric control freak.
I can detail some of the tactics companies who have tried to compete with him and even legislatures that have tried to corral him have been defeated by his preparedness to spend copious amounts of money to get his way. (And I don't mean by direct corruption, I'm not suggesting he has broken the letter of the law, just its spirit.)
Doctors are just the same as lawyers; the only difference is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you too.
— Anton Chekhov, 1860-1904, Russian writer
It is the duty of a doctor to prolong life and it is not his duty to prolong the act of dying.
— Bill Vaughan, 1915-1977, American journalist