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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): Conspiracy Theories & Claims

Strap yourselves in .. we're about to enter the moron zone:

"Maggie getting the first covid vaccine shot. Wears a penguin shirt. Guess who also wore penguins when he got a shot? Black & white animals are often used by masons as a symbol, in their dualistic, black/white , inverted world of deception and dialectics."

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Secret penguin codes. Seriously?.
This secret code is called 'Winter season iconography'.
Dark, very dark.
 
The latest ridiculous contradiction in the UK is the advice about leaving windows open - in two lockdowns you shut infected people in together with uninfected, in many cases in high rise flats or old people's homes with minimal opportunity for fresh air - now you are saying that confined spaces spread the virus. (Which, incidentally, some of us had worked out in March.)
Realistically neither is fully safe. If the window is open it might... if the indoor air is contaminated flush it out... but if the OUTSIDE air is contaminated and indoor air ISN'T....

Indoor air is lower in volume and thus has a greater risk of high PPM virus counts... but outdoor air is nearly impossible to fix if it is contaminated. And there are so many potential contamination sources. You know... like that guy 2 houses to the north who's coughing... maybe he's infected?

Yeah not really convinced either option is actually "best" when you don't know where the safe zone is.
 
Realistically neither is fully safe. If the window is open it might... if the indoor air is contaminated flush it out... but if the OUTSIDE air is contaminated and indoor air ISN'T....

Indoor air is lower in volume and thus has a greater risk of high PPM virus counts... but outdoor air is nearly impossible to fix if it is contaminated. And there are so many potential contamination sources. You know... like that guy 2 houses to the north who's coughing... maybe he's infected?

Yeah not really convinced either option is actually "best" when you don't know where the safe zone is.
Selected colleagues and I have been enjoying many months at work with the windows open and a covid testing tent underneath. None of us have caught it (yet). I am way more likely to get it on the bus as I'm travelling.
 
Selected colleagues and I have been enjoying many months at work with the windows open and a covid testing tent underneath. None of us have caught it (yet). I am way more likely to get it on the bus as I'm travelling.
Ah, altitude helps. airborne viruses tend to be close to the ground.

But saying a bus is "riskier" is a low bar. over a dozen strangers in a confined space with little ventilation? Not many things riskier in terms of catching an airborne pathogen.
 
I've been trolling facebook nobs again today:

Wayne:

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Swifty:

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The Covid vaccine in Australia has hit a bump in the road...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55269381

In short, the vaccine appears to have a component of the HIV virus and is producing HIV results during tests.
Not only is this odd, but it's quite worrying.
The vaccine has been manufactured using systems that were being designed for an HIV vaccine so presumably contained some components of the HIV virus so antibodies were being raised against them. It was producing false positives with HIV tests, it was not infecting anyone with HIV.
 
The vaccine has been manufactured using systems that were being designed for an HIV vaccine so presumably contained some components of the HIV virus so antibodies were being raised against them. It was producing false positives with HIV tests, it was not infecting anyone with HIV.
Even that explanation reads like an accusation of gross negligence. The part about using machinery that had been used to produce a different vaccine, sure, makes sense. Wouldn't you... sterilize the equipment before re-using it for a different purpose though?

This is kinda like making chicken soup in a pan that was coated in beef residue since you last used it to make beef stew.... and didn't wash the residue out.
 
Even that explanation reads like an accusation of gross negligence. The part about using machinery that had been used to produce a different vaccine, sure, makes sense. Wouldn't you... sterilize the equipment before re-using it for a different purpose though?

This is kinda like making chicken soup in a pan that was coated in beef residue since you last used it to make beef stew.... and didn't wash the residue out.
Sorry, I meant the physical vaccine is made in part from stuff that was being prepared for eg cancer and HIV, so the actual proteins are the same not the physical metal machinery used to make it (or if it is it will have been sterilised big time).
 
Sorry, I meant the physical vaccine is made in part from stuff that was being prepared for eg cancer and HIV, so the actual proteins are the same not the physical metal machinery used to make it (or if it is it will have been sterilised big time).
that's a different kind of weird entirely yeah. why does it need to use proteins from a different virus?
 
that's a different kind of weird entirely yeah. why does it need to use proteins from a different virus?
It’s juts a delivery system that they had and were working on, easier to adapt rather than start from new, that’s part of the reason things happened so quick.
 
It’s juts a delivery system that they had and were working on, easier to adapt rather than start from new, that’s part of the reason things happened so quick.
the next question seems obvious... but it'd take some really in depth explanation to actually answer.
 
... I meant the physical vaccine is made in part from stuff that was being prepared for eg cancer and HIV, so the actual proteins are the same not the physical metal machinery used to make it (or if it is it will have been sterilised big time).
that's a different kind of weird entirely yeah. why does it need to use proteins from a different virus?

Here's a quick 'n dirty explanation ...

Proteins aren't uniquely associated with only one or another microorganism. They're a class of building blocks used by many organisms.

The 2 initial vaccines are mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccines. Messenger RNA is a template for creating a given protein.

Certain proteins have been identified as critical to the coronavirus' nefarious operations - e.g., the protein structure at the tip of its 'spikes' that allows a virus to 'hook up' or 'plug into' a cell and then wreak havoc.

The mRNA vaccines stimulate the production of key viral proteins COVID-19 employs to effectively infect a host. This stimulates the vaccinated person's immune system to generate a defensive response to the key protein(s) without the entire virus being present. Once this defensive response has been generated the virus can't utilize the given protein(s) to attack cells.

If an mRNA 'template' already exists for one of COVID-19's key proteins, it can be repurposed from whatever other disease(s) it had already been used against. Similarly, anti-COVID mRNA might be adapted from a close match with an existing specimen.
 
Here's a quick 'n dirty explanation ...

Proteins aren't uniquely associated with only one or another microorganism. They're a class of building blocks used by many organisms.

The 2 initial vaccines are mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccines. Messenger RNA is a template for creating a given protein.

Certain proteins have been identified as critical to the coronavirus' nefarious operations - e.g., the protein structure at the tip of its 'spikes' that allows a virus to 'hook up' or 'plug into' a cell and then wreak havoc.

The mRNA vaccines stimulate the production of key viral proteins COVID-19 employs to effectively infect a host. This stimulates the vaccinated person's immune system to generate a defensive response to the key protein(s) without the entire virus being present. Once this defensive response has been generated the virus can't utilize the given protein(s) to attack cells.

If an mRNA 'template' already exists for one of COVID-19's key proteins, it can be repurposed from whatever other disease(s) it had already been used against. Similarly, anti-COVID mRNA might be adapted from a close match with an existing specimen.
So the two viruses use a similar protein in their shells and triggering an immune reaction to that protein reduces or eliminates the virus spread? Hmmm well that sort of works I guess? It still seems odd for it to have that many pieces of HIV RNA though. wouldn't you try to have just the key trigger?
 
Generating an immune response against the protein doesn't directly target the whole virus. It prevents the virus from exploiting the targeted protein. This mRNA / protein targeting approach essentially negates the virus' key built-in tools (so to speak) rather than nuking the virus itself.
 
Generating an immune response against the protein doesn't directly target the whole virus. It prevents the virus from exploiting the targeted protein. This mRNA / protein targeting approach essentially negates the virus' key built-in tools (so to speak) rather than nuking the virus itself.
The overall goal is to prevent the virus form reproducing from the way I understand it. This particular shell protein is key to that. It's kinda like preventing someone from driving their car by fusing the key lock on the door closed.

To be honest the specific target may be different but vaccines in general are about triggering immune reactions in a controlled manner. This is 3 or 4 steps removed from a killed virus vaccine. But it still uses some part of the virus as an immune trigger.

I think the immune response to this does indirectly kill the virus actually. The immune reaction is triggered in an atypical way, but once triggered it causes T-cells to attack the virus.
 
https://bgr.com/2020/12/18/coronavirus-symptom-discovered-rare-but-severe-eye-infection/
hmmm some doctors concluded that Covid-19 might cause Keratitis(a form of eye inflammation) to become the more severe illness endophthalmitis(which can result in total blindness).

Maybe possibly... or it might be a coincidence... There's no known mechanism for it as of yet, so it's not clear HOW it happened to those three guys. But getting endophthalmitis is extremely rare and having 3 cases in a short time appear in people infected with Covid is strange.

I'm wondering if it might be a holistic thing? Get sick and other illnesses get worse just because your body can't deal with them any more.
 
'The Casualties Of This Years Viral Conspiracy Theories' .. nothing we haven't already noticed but in a compact form ..

The casualties of this year's viral conspiracy theories - BBC News
Thing is... he's acting like it's a given that these people would have been fine otherwise... is that actually true? The rest of the piece comes across as a bin of finger pointing. Is maybe some of it justified? perhaps... the overall purpose of the piece seems to be a propaganda campaign akin to "trust the govt, they always know what's right!" Especially when they can't agree on it.
 
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