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It would be very unusual to see an isolated cloud so low over the ground.
You have to ask yourself - is this more unlikely than an interdimensional anomaly? Since no-one has ever seen an interdimensional anomaly, either on Earth or in space, it is more likely to be a mundane layer of mist.

By the way, I thought the anomaly was a mile above the mesa? That looked like a couple of hundred feet to me.
 
It would be very unusual to see an isolated cloud so low over the ground. The rockets usually explode or are deflected away from the anomaly.
The air is very still and they are firing rockets. I don't know how they can be sure that it isn't some smoke left behind from the previous rocket.
 
You have to ask yourself - is this more unlikely than an interdimensional anomaly? Since no-one has ever seen an interdimensional anomaly, either on Earth or in space, it is more likely to be a mundane layer of mist.

By the way, I thought the anomaly was a mile above the mesa? That looked like a couple of hundred feet to me.
Yes the anomaly is around a mile up, but usually rockets explode or are pushed off course before they get close to it. This cloud appears to show whatever it is that deflects the rockets, or even destroys them. So something like a protective barrier. Without the high speed camera its presence wouldn't have been detected.
 
You have to ask yourself - is this more unlikely than an interdimensional anomaly? Since no-one has ever seen an interdimensional anomaly, either on Earth or in space, it is more likely to be a mundane layer of mist.

By the way, I thought the anomaly was a mile above the mesa? That looked like a couple of hundred feet to me.
It has been tracked from 300 ft to a mile above the mesa. When they shoot rockets they usually see them veer off course somewhere between 300 and 400 ft.
 
I used to be an sf fan when I was young and I recall a very good story called VOR (I just checked on Abe and it was by James Blish). A monstrous robot device lands on earth and says that it wants humans to destroy it. They realise that it has been sent by an alien civilisation to test their defences. If humans can't destroy VOR, its creators will know that Earth will be easy to conquer! I can't recall exactly how they managed it, though! I hope it's not relevant to the Skinwalker story...
 
The air is very still and they are firing rockets. I don't know how they can be sure that it isn't some smoke left behind from the previous rocket.
That is a good point. It reminds me of the 1942 Battle of Los Angeles, where the searchlights caught a mysterious shape floating above the city. It was most probably smoke or vapour from previous anti-aircraft shells drifting in the breeze.
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This encapsulates the Skinwalker story. The first rocket ‘turns’, the second doesn’t. The moving light isn’t on camera long enough to tell if it is in fact moving erratically. The third one blew up. Immediately they put it down to the ‘anomaly’ which is now 30 ft above & not a mile as before. The congratulate themselves & claim valediction of their belief in the anomaly. Not a very scientific approach to say the least. Whatever happens is made to fit with their beliefs.

If it was a genuinely scientific investigation with outside people involved I might take it more seriously, but it isn’t. It’s a tv show. Get Mick West & others on the case & it’d either be more convincing or completely evaporate & end of tv show.
 
Recently uploaded from the new series:

These are two clips I came across after reviewing the video - I believe they must
have missed out on seeing it for themselves, as it moves so fast that I had to go
over and over it a good few times to catch the action of it.

The blue coloured anomaly shoots straight up from ground level in a split second, I very much
doubt if any of them would have noticed it at the time!


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Notice that it's movement is directly upwards from the ground, and then it
vanishes completely. My guess (for what it's worth!), is that it is some kind of
electrical upwards discharge - as it doesn't appear to be anything connected
with either the cameras lens, or an insect, as it has it's own source of light,
and moves upwards under it's own steam incredibly fast.

*The little red dot on the ground is also something that stays-put on the ground,
as the view of it remains, and stays in line with Taylor's forward movements
- but as to what 'it' is, is anyone's guess!
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Also - in this frame, this cone formation needs some explanation for it forming
ahead of the rocket. Though how is it that this torch-beam forms?
Suggest ~ it could possibly be formed by an internal form of brightly lit light
which seems to emanate from inside the actual rocket tube itself.


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Suggest ~ it could possibly be formed by an internal form of brightly lit light from inside the actual rocket tube itself.
That's my current hypothesis. The rocket is sending a beam ahead of itself (quite probably in infra-red, as it doesn't seem to show up in the visible-light recording from the TV cameras). Maybe some sort of heat leakage from the nose-cone, or an IR spotlight attached to the rocket.

What it probably isn't, is an interdimensional rift or portal, since it appears to be radiating from the rocket itself, not from empty space above the mesa.
 
For those who can get the most current episode, Travis Taylor’s experiments as usual produced an UAP in the sky.

This information was handed over to the Attorney General of Utah.

The Attorney General claimed he received no help from the Utah Dugway Military Base.
 
I used to be an sf fan when I was young and I recall a very good story called VOR (I just checked on Abe and it was by James Blish). A monstrous robot device lands on earth and says that it wants humans to destroy it. They realise that it has been sent by an alien civilisation to test their defences. If humans can't destroy VOR, its creators will know that Earth will be easy to conquer! I can't recall exactly how they managed it, though! I hope it's not relevant to the Skinwalker story...
I have read a lot of James Blish, but I don't remember that story. I am going to look for it.
 
These are two clips I came across after reviewing the video - I believe they must
have missed out on seeing it for themselves, as it moves so fast that I had to go
over and over it a good few times to catch the action of it.

The blue coloured anomaly shoots straight up from ground level in a split second, I very much
doubt if any of them would have noticed it at the time!


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Notice that it's movement is directly upwards from the ground, and then it
vanishes completely. My guess (for what it's worth!), is that it is some kind of
electrical upwards discharge - as it doesn't appear to be anything connected
with either the cameras lens, or an insect, as it has it's own source of light,
and moves upwards under it's own steam incredibly fast.

*The little red dot on the ground is also something that stays-put on the ground,
as the view of it remains, and stays in line with Taylor's forward movements
- but as to what 'it' is, is anyone's guess!

View attachment 65919

Also - in this frame, this cone formation needs some explanation for it forming
ahead of the rocket. Though how is it that this torch-beam forms?
Suggest ~ it could possibly be formed by an internal form of brightly lit light
which seems to emanate from inside the actual rocket tube itself.


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I'm sure I could hear the sound of a barrel being scraped, too.

Seriously, is this typical of the evidence being presented...?
 
I'm sure I could hear the sound of a barrel being scraped, too.

Seriously, is this typical of the evidence being presented...?
In the clips above (1 & 2), that's only what I found myself 'Paul' ~ after slowly reviewing the video footage, the Skinwalker team probably weren't aware themselves of this odd little 'anomaly.'
The rocket explosion, is what the Skinwalker Ranch team had presented.
 
In the clips above (1 & 2), that's only what I found myself 'Paul' ~ after slowly reviewing the video footage, the Skinwalker team probably weren't aware themselves of this odd little 'anomaly.'
The rocket explosion, is what the Skinwalker Ranch team had presented.
Apologies Sid, didn't realise this was your own detective work, sorry. Thought it was being presented by the show, which given their budget, equipment and claims would been a little underwhelming.
 
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Apologies Sid, didn't realise this was your own detective work, sorry. Thought it was being presented by the show, which given their budget, equipment and claims would been a little underwhelming.
Last nights Skinwalker Ranch was really interesting I thought. Giving out the metallurgy composition of the 'metallic sandwich' pieces that were recovered from the recycled water returns was pretty strange to say the least!
It seems it's pretty obvious that it comes from something that was buried deep within the
masa, or something that maybe buried itself into the masa, then either purposely covered up, or debris covered over the object?
Certainly starting to get even more interesting, especially as there has also been apparent ground movements felt, and appeared at the triangle.
 
Last nights Skinwalker Ranch was really interesting I thought. Giving out the metallurgy composition of the 'metallic sandwich' pieces that were recovered from the recycled water returns was pretty strange to say the least!
It seems it's pretty obvious that it comes from something that was buried deep within the
masa, or something that maybe buried itself into the masa, then either purposely covered up, or debris covered over the object?
Certainly starting to get even more interesting, especially as there has also been apparent ground movements felt, and appeared at the triangle.
The metal pieces sounded interesting at first when they told us they had tellurium on one side and europium on the other. I don't remember exactly what Dr Taylor said that meant it could do but it sounded very sci fi. Then later on, when they speak to the metallurgist, he mentioned that they were only trace amounts. I doubt trace amounts of anything could turn a piece of metal into a super conductor.

Did they ask the man with the drill rig if the flakes could be coming off the inside of his tanker? I don't remember. But that would be my first thought. The tanker might well pick up trace amounts of very rare earth metals just by spending a lot of time holding water that has been flushed through deep underground places. So I would want to rule that out first.

The ground movements are kind of worrying. I am inclined to agree with Thomas Winterton when he thought it might be as a result of the drilling and gallons of water they pumped into the mesa.:eek:
 
The metal pieces sounded interesting at first when they told us they had tellurium on one side and europium on the other. I don't remember exactly what Dr Taylor said that meant it could do but it sounded very sci fi. Then later on, when they speak to the metallurgist, he mentioned that they were only trace amounts. I doubt trace amounts of anything could turn a piece of metal into a super conductor.

Did they ask the man with the drill rig if the flakes could be coming off the inside of his tanker? I don't remember. But that would be my first thought. The tanker might well pick up trace amounts of very rare earth metals just by spending a lot of time holding water that has been flushed through deep underground places. So I would want to rule that out first.

The ground movements are kind of worrying. I am inclined to agree with Thomas Winterton when he thought it might be as a result of the drilling and gallons of water they pumped into the mesa.
Here's an extract from my notes on this episode:
Next day, 10.41am. Erik receives a University of Utah analysis of the strange
fragments. One side is a powerful semiconductor, Tellurium. It is a very rare ele-
ment. The other is Europeam. Travis says that NASA is experimenting with the
idea that layers of these materials might enable a space craft to alter the space-time
continuum. Erik says they need a specialist’s view.
Next day they meet Dr Ravi Chandran, Professor of Metallurgy at the Univ of
Utah. His analysis finds iron, calcium and manganese, europeum and manganese.
He thinks they could be manufactured. He says that such materials are being used
to protect spacecraft on re-entry into the earth’s atmosphere. [Extract from my notes on this episode]
 
The metal pieces sounded interesting at first when they told us they had tellurium on one side and europium on the other. I don't remember exactly what Dr Taylor said that meant it could do but it sounded very sci fi. Then later on, when they speak to the metallurgist, he mentioned that they were only trace amounts. I doubt trace amounts of anything could turn a piece of metal into a super conductor.

Did they ask the man with the drill rig if the flakes could be coming off the inside of his tanker? I don't remember. But that would be my first thought. The tanker might well pick up trace amounts of very rare earth metals just by spending a lot of time holding water that has been flushed through deep underground places. So I would want to rule that out first.

The ground movements are kind of worrying. I am inclined to agree with Thomas Winterton when he thought it might be as a result of the drilling and gallons of water they pumped into the mesa.:eek:
I doubt very much if the amounts of water they were talking about that had been pumped into the mesa would have made the ground tremble and the triangle to partially collapse, more-like a minor (coincidental) quake episode.
By-the-way, it's 'Europium!' see. . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europium
 
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By-the-way, it's 'Europium!' see. . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europium
I said europium! :)

From that link it looks like its superconductor properties are contested.
Europium has been claimed to become a superconductor when it is cooled below 1.8 K and compressed to above 80 GPa. However the experimental evidence on which this claim is based has been challenged, and the paper reporting superconductivity has been subsequently retracted
So the claims on the show are out of date now which is worth bearing in mind.
 
I said europium! :)

From that link it looks like its superconductor properties are contested.

So the claims on the show are out of date now which is worth bearing in mind.
It certainly seems to be an unusual and rare element to find where it was found, whatever is known about its properties. Worth following up, anyway.
 
Tellurium is found in solar panels and thermocouples. Europium is used in colour TVs, fluorescent and luminous glass and paint. Since these were only trace elements there is no reason to suppose that extraterrestrial technology has been discovered. We should remember that we already live in a high-tech civilisation, which utilises a large number of different elements on a routine basis, and these elements have been part of our everyday environment for decades.
 
I am missing something here.

The mesa backs up to the Ute reservation and unlike other Indian reservations, the Ute track who is either living or visiting on their reservation.

Did someone bury a bunch of TVs in the Skinwalker Ranch’s ancient mesa shared with the Ute ?

Then again Bigelow didn’t share any of their information with Fugal when he bought this ranch, so who knows what Bigelow did?
 
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The mesa backs up to the Ute reservation and unlike other Indian reservations, the Ute track who is either living or visiting on their reservation.
I don't understand what you are saying here. I live in an area surrounded by native reservations and they all track who comes and goes. The most problematic for that is the Navajo reservation because most of it is remote and several highways run through it, but they have police that keep an on things.

And considering the terrain, I doubt that anyone was using that area as a dump. They are digging into/under the mesa, not beside it. Have you ever been in that area?
 
About 200 miles from me in the Smoky-Blue Ridge Mountains is the Cherokee Reservation who encourages travelers to stop at their gambling-bingo halls.

When I was young, I joined my father on a car business trip on the south Route 66.
Besides being rustic in those days ( a lot of cars could not handle the warm temperatures) my father’s spirit of adventure took me to several famous places like the Grand Canyon.

I have never been north like Utah or northwest like Montana.

Poor, lonely forgotten Route 66, replaced by Interstate 40.
 
About 200 miles from me in the Smoky-Blue Ridge Mountains is the Cherokee Reservation who encourages travelers to stop at their gambling-bingo halls.

When I was young, I joined my father on a car business trip on the south Route 66.
Besides being rustic in those days ( a lot of cars could not handle the warm temperatures) my father’s spirit of adventure took me to several famous places like the Grand Canyon.

I have never been north like Utah or northwest like Montana.

Poor, lonely forgotten Route 66, replaced by Interstate 40.
I am sure the Cherokee nation encourages people to visit thier casino and bingo halls, but they do not encourage people to enter any other part of the reservation univited. In New Mexico almost all the casinos are on the highways except for the Acoma, which you have to drive a few miles uphill to get to, but you are only allowed in the casiono parking lot, which is separate from where they live and congregate. On christmas eve they used to invite people to the midnight mass. It was not an easy drive but we did go once. It was a total tourist show.
 
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