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me and the missus went there a long time ago

its very shabby indeed

we over heard a couple of americans in the car park who were more impressed with the stones that were there..lol..they thought that was it not noticing stone henge behind them.but they did have a point.

our most iconic national tresure is no better than buying a postcard of it,and some chicken wire,and looking at the card through the wire at home.

why cant druids have there shindig once a year?.they could make it look as it was ,with cardboard and paint(stone henge that is).now that would be an attraction.obviously they would have to make sure its going to cause no harm but i cant see how some painted cardboard possitioned to make the missing bits look like they are still there will cause stone any greif.obviously there will be calls from alot of people who will say"but we cant as it will damage"etc but imho these people are really saying that they dont want this to happen and think this will be the best way to stop any chance of this happening.these are the same people who decide to tunnel and the like.for them this is how they get payed and dont want to lose there income.

this would make something of it and give something to the people who do travel ,sometimes a great distance,to see what nothing more that a concrete bunker like tunnel some stones in the distance with lots of chicken wire fences.

to do no more than build a better tat shop isnt the answer.
 
At last, some new research:

Excavation starts at Stonehenge

The first excavation inside the ring at Stonehenge in more than four decades gets under way on Monday.

The two-week dig will try to establish, once and for all, some precise dating for the creation of the monument.

It is also targeting the significance of the smaller bluestones that stand inside the giant sarsen pillars.

Researchers believe these rocks, brought all the way from Wales, hold the secret to the real purpose of Stonehenge as a place of healing.

The excavation at the 4,500-year-old UK landmark is being funded by the BBC. The work will be filmed for a special Timewatch programme to be broadcast in the autumn.

'Magical stones'

The researchers leading the project are two of the UK's leading Stonehenge experts - Professor Tim Darvill, of the University of Bournemouth, and Professor Geoff Wainwright, of the Society of Antiquaries.

They are convinced that the dominating feature on Salisbury Plain in Wiltshire was akin to a "Neolithic Lourdes" - a place where people went on a pilgrimage to get cured.

Some of the evidence supporting this theory comes from the dead, they say.

A significant proportion of the newly discovered Neolithic remains show clear signs of skeletal trauma. Some had undergone operations to the skull, or had walked with a limp, or had broken bones.

Modern techniques have established that many of these people had clearly travelled huge distances to get to south-west England, suggesting they were seeking supernatural help for their ills.

But Darvill and Wainwright have also traced the bluestones - the stones in the centre of Stonehenge - to the exact spot they came from in the Preseli hills, 250km away in the far west of Wales.

Neolithic inscriptions found at this location indicate the ancient people there believed the stones to be magical and for the local waters to have healing properties.

'Scientific proof'

Darvill and Wainwright hope the dig will demonstrate such beliefs also lay behind the creation of Stonehenge, by showing that the make-up of the original floor of the sacred circle at the monument is dominated by bluestone chippings that were purposely placed there.

The dig will also provide a more precise dating of the Double Bluestone Circle, the first stone circle that was erected at Stonehenge.

The original setting for this circle is no longer visible. The bluestones seen by visitors today are later re-erections.

Archaeologists tried to date the first circle in the 1990s and estimated that it was put up at around 2,550BC; but a more precise dating has not been possible.

Principally, this is because materials removed in earlier excavations were poorly recorded and cannot be attributed with any certainty to specific features and deposits.

The 3.5m by 2.5m trench that will be excavated in the new effort will aim to retrieve fragments of the original bluestone pillars that can be properly dated.

Genuine chance

The BBC-funded excavation goes ahead with the full support of English Heritage, which manages the site for the nation.

"Theories about Stonehenge are cheap; proof is precious," commented BBC Timewatch editor, John Farren.

"I'm delighted that Timewatch, the BBC's flagship history programme, is able to offer the possibility for some hard scientific proof to further our knowledge of the dating of Stonehenge and to bolster this remarkable new theory.

"It's taken us 18 months' hard work to get all the elements for the dig in place."

Professor Wainwright added: "This small excavation of a bluestone is the culmination of six years of research which Tim and I have conducted in the Preseli Hills of North Pembrokeshire and which has shed new light on the eternal question as to why Stonehenge was built.

"The excavation will date the arrival of the bluestones following their 250km journey from Preseli to Salisbury Plain and contribute to our definition of the society which undertook such an ambitious project. We will be able to say not only why but when the first stone monument was built."

Dr Simon Thurley, chief executive of English Heritage, commented: "Very occasionally, we have the opportunity to find out something new archeologically - we are at that moment now.

"We believe that this dig has a chance of genuinely unlocking part of the mystery of Stonehenge."

BBC Timewatch will follow the progress of the Stonehenge dig over the course of the next two weeks. Catch daily text and video reports on the programme's website. A BBC Two documentary will be broadcast in the autumn and will detail the findings of the investigation

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7322134.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/timewatch/
 
Stonehenge builders had geometry skills to rival Pythagoras
By David Keys, Archaeology Correspondent
Monday, 26 May 2008

The Stone Age Britons who built Stonehenge had a knowledge of advanced geometry, 2,000 years before Pythagoras

Stone Age Britons had a sophisticated knowledge of geometry to rival Pythagoras – 2,000 years before the Greek "father of numbers" was born, according to a new study of Stonehenge.

Five years of detailed research, carried out by the Oxford University landscape archaeologist Anthony Johnson, claims that Stonehenge was designed and built using advanced geometry.

The discovery has immense implications for understanding the monument – and the people who built it. It also suggests it is more rooted in the study of geometry than early astronomy – as is often speculated.

Mr Johnson believes the geometrical knowledge eventually used to plan, pre-fabricate and erect Stonehenge was learnt empirically hundreds of years earlier through the construction of much simpler monuments.

He also argues that this knowledge was regarded as a form of arcane wisdom or magic that conferred a privileged status on the elite who possessed it, as it also featured on gold artefacts found in prehistoric graves.

The most complex geometrical achievement at Stonehenge is an 87-metre diameter circle of chalk-cut pits which mark the points of a 56-sided polygon, created immediately within themonument's perimeter earthwork.

Mr Johnson used computer analysis and experimental archaeology to demonstrate that this outer polygon was laid out using square and circle geometry. He believes the surveyors started by using a rope to create a circle, then laid out the four corners of a square on its circumference, before laying out a second similar square, thus creating an inner octagon. The points of the octagon were then utilised as anchors for a surveyor's rope which was used to "draw" arcs which intersected the circumference so as to progressively create the sides of a vast polygon.

Indeed, his work has demonstrated that a 56-sided polygon is the most complex that can easily be created purely through square and circle geometry using a single piece of rope.

It is likely that this basic limitation determined the number of sides of Stonehenge's outer polygon – and may also have led to the 56-sided polygon concept becoming important within wider European religious belief. Ancient Greek classical mythology associated just such a 56-sided polygon with Zeus's great rival for divine supremacy, the weather god Typhon.

Johnson's research, published as a book this week, shows that Stonehenge derived its design from geometrical knowledge and features no less than six concentric polygons – a 56-sided outer one built around 2950BC; a regular octagon built around 2500BC) inside that; two concentric (though partly inaccurate) 30-sided polygons built around 1650BC, which were based on a series of hexagons; a 30-sided inner polygon (the sarsen stone ring which was built around 2500BC) also based on hexagonal geometry; and two probable 40-sided concentric polygons (probable former blue stone positions built around 2600BC) that were later modified to 30-sided ones. They also created the famous central stone "horseshoe" utilising the survey markers used to create the thirty-sided sarsen polygon.

The experimental archaeology demonstrates that most of the monument was pre-planned and that the great stones were pre-fabricated off-site and then installed by surveyor-engineers.

"For years people have speculated that Stonehenge was built as a complex astronomical observatory. My research suggests that, apart from mid-summer and mid-winter solar alignments, this was not the case," said Mr Johnson. "It strongly suggests that it was the knowledge of geometry and symmetry which was an important component of the Neolithic belief system."

"It shows the builders of Stonehenge had a sophisticated yet empirically derived knowledge of Pythagorean geometry 2000 years before Pythagoras," he said.

A leading British prehistorian, Sir Barry Cunliffe, from Oxford University, believes that Anthony Johnson's research is "a major step forward in solving the puzzle of Stonehenge".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/stonehenge-builders-had-geometry-skills-to-rival-pythagoras-834313.html
 
The problem is that there are only a limited number of geometrical shapes that get used in architecture and another limited number of geometrical shapes associated with the human body, with both those sets of shapes being the same. Thus any column becomes a penis, any mound or pyramid a breast, any more-or-less circular aperture in the ground a vagina and so on. And this is regardless of whether the original architects and engineers intended it that way or not.

P. S. Even so, I now find myself thinking of the American radio announcer who described the Taj Mahal as "Man's greatest erection for Woman in all human history."
 
Each new theory regarding the purpose/function/reason-why of ancient earth works reflects more on the state of the society at that time than it does on the actual society that created them.

Every interpretation can be veiwed in retrospect to what was the current preoccupation of the people doing the study.
 
At one time I half-believed that Stonehenge had been constructed as a landing-pad for circular flying saucers.

Then I turned fourteen.
 
OldTimeRadio said:
At one time I half-believed that Stonehenge had been constructed as a landing-pad for circular flying saucers.

Then I turned fourteen.

:lol:

I stopped believing Von Daniken at about that age...
 
OldTimeRadio said:
At one time I half-believed that Stonehenge had been constructed as a landing-pad for circular flying saucers.

Then I turned fourteen.




did you then realise that it was a landing pad for horse-shoe shaped ones?

:lol:

Kath
 
As any fule kno, Stonehenge was built by the druids as a blueprint for the aliens to construct dentures. It is often noted (by those recently escaped from secure psychological medical institutions) that it resembles - from above - the tooth pattern of a bite taken out of an apple*.

*Note the Biblical link here.
 
You're forgetting the use of the colours of the Union flag, the importance of which can't be over-stated.
 
You wait ages for a new Stonehenge theory, then two come along at once...

Stonehenge was 'domain of the dead', says scientist
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Friday, 30 May 2008

Stonehenge served as a cemetery for more than 500 years – much longer than previously thought – a radiocarbon-dating study has found. Charred bones and teeth unearthed from the site on Salisbury Plain, Wiltshire, have been dated to various times between about 3,030 BC and 2,340 BC, according to Professor Mike Parker Pearson, an archaeologist at Sheffield University. The first stones were erected on the site about 2,500 BC.


Professor Parker Pearson believes the findings support the idea that the structure was the "domain of the dead" and linked via the river Avon to a similar circular wooden structure, Woodhenge, a couple of miles away, which he believes was the domain of the living.

The team believe there may have been up to 240 people buried at Stonehenge in prehistoric times and that they may be the descendents of a single important family. "It was a special place at that time. One has to assume anyone buried there had some good credentials," Professor Parker Pearson said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stonehenge-was-domain-of-the-dead-says-scientist-836760.html

Also see
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 029449.ece
(Longer article)
 
Interesting theory

I did ponder that years ago, that it might be something to do with female sexual organs - a bit like Visica piscis which is also something to do with female sexual organs. Trouble is where are you going to find a man that big.. eh? She's not going to be very happy with the tiny men we have here.

But joking aside - Earth is called "mother Earth" and God is called the "Father". I guess at certain times of the year his light.. taking the shape of a giant shining shaft.. would symbolically penetrate the giant representation of female sexual organs and then.. impregnate the Earth..
 
Re: Interesting theory

Forever_S said:
I did ponder that years ago, that it might be something to do with female sexual organs - a bit like Visica piscis which is also something to do with female sexual organs. Trouble is where are you going to find a man that big.. eh? She's not going to be very happy with the tiny men we have here.

But joking aside - Earth is called "mother Earth" and God is called the "Father". I guess at certain times of the year his light.. taking the shape of a giant shining shaft.. would symbolically penetrate the giant representation of female sexual organs and then.. impregnate the Earth..

You could have a point there - only it makes me feel, well, inadequate... ;) :shock:
 
Stonehenge 'was hidden from lower classes'
Archeologists have uncovered the remains of what they believe to be a 20ft fence designed to screen Stonehenge from the view of unworthy Stone Age Britons.
Last Updated: 4:58PM BST 31 Aug 2008

The wooden construction extended nearly two miles across Salisbury Plain more than 5,000 years ago, and would have served to shield the sacred site from the prying eyes of ordinary lower-class locals.

Trenches have been dug around the monument, tracing the course of the fence which meanders around the stone circle.

The dig's co-director Dr Josh Pollard, of Bristol University, said: "The construction must have taken a lot of manpower.

"The palisade is an open structure which would not have been defensive and was too high to be practical for controlling livestock.

"It certainly wasn’t for hunting herded animals and so, like everything else in this ceremonial landscape, we have to believe it must have had a religious significance. :roll:

"The most plausible explanation is that it was built at huge cost to the community to screen the environs of Stonehenge from view. Basically, we think it was to keep the lower classes from seeing what exactly their rulers and the priestly class were doing."

Mike Pitts, editor of British Archaeology Magazine and author of the book Hengeworld, said: "This is a fantastic insight into what the landscape would have looked like.

"This huge wooden palisade would have snaked across the landscape, blotting out views to Stonehenge from one side.

"The other side was the ceremonial route to the Henge from the River Avon and would have been shielded by the contours.

"The palisade would have heightened the mystery of whatever ceremonies were performed and it would have endowed those who were privy to those secrets with more power and prestige. In modern terms, you had to be invited or have a ticket to get in."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... asses.html
 
"The most plausible explanation is that it was built at huge cost to the community to screen the environs of Stonehenge from view. Basically, we think it was to keep the lower classes from seeing what exactly their rulers and the priestly class were doing."

Archaeologists were today startled to uncover evidence of a buried Marxist discourse. "We can usually trace these things by aerial survey but it's a long time since we have seen such a whopper in the flesh." The bones are intact and traces of flesh remain on the corpse. Is it possible that a theme-park of these old monsters could be created by implanting DNA into a newt-egg? Since public-funding will not be available, a commercial sponsor is essential. "Frankly, we doubt if the public is ready for such a thing," said a Disney spokesman. :shock:
 
Often, imaginative interpretations of archaeological features tell us much more about the culture and mindset of the archaeologists, making those interpretations, than about the culture that made the archaeological features. ;)
 
Pietro_Mercurios said:
Often, imaginative interpretations of archaeological features tell us much more about the culture and mindset of the archaeologists, making those interpretations, than about the culture that made the archaeological features. ;)

Yes, if they find something and don't understand what it is for, they will invariably attribute it to some religious or ritualistic purpose. :)
 
It's bloody obvious what it was - the site of a prehistoric pop festival!
Fence to keep out all the free-loaders.

A stone age Glastonbury, if you will. ;)
 
tilly50 said:
How can they tell the height of the fence?
Probably, by the size and spacing of the fence post holes. They'll have equations to help work it out.

Mostly, 'educated guesswork.'
 
Stonehenge Partiers Came From Afar, Cattle Teeth Show
James Owen in London
for National Geographic News
September 12, 2008

Prehistoric cattle remains found close to Stonehenge suggest that partying pilgrims brought the animals from afar, scientists report.

The remains support a theory that the megalithic monument near Salisbury, in southern England, drew ancient peoples from distant regions to celebrate important feast ceremonies. And the feasts, it seems, were movable.

Cattle slaughtered during ritual festivities at the site may have come from as far away as Wales, Jane Evans of the United Kingdom's Natural Environment Research Council announced this week at the British Association Festival of Science in Liverpool.

The discovery is based on 4,500-year-old cattle teeth and bones recently unearthed at a late Stone Age village at Durrington Walls (learn more), less than two miles (three kilometers) from the famous stone circle.

"We are seeing physical evidence of the movement of populations into the [Stonehenge] area for the feasting," said Evans, a member of the research team.

(See Stonehenge photos from National Geographic magazine.)

Probably Wales

Researchers analyzed isotopes, or different varieties, of atoms of the chemical element strontium that was preserved in the animals' tooth enamel. These atoms provide a chemical insight into the geology of the region where the animal lived.

The findings indicate all but one of the cattle studied were raised beyond the chalky, limestone-rich lands that surround Stonehenge and define much of southern England, Evans said.

And teeth samples from two cattle suggest they came from outside England altogether.

"These animals were grazing on soils that developed on relatively old rocks," Evans said, adding that the nearest locations where such rocks are found are Wales and Scotland.

Wales is the likelier of the two, Evans said, because it is closer to Stonehenge and has other archaeological connections. For instance, the Stonehenge monument includes bluestones that were transported from southwest Wales.

Student Groundwork

The new findings, which have yet to be published, are based on the work of Sarah Viner, a graduate student who was working under the supervision of animal archaeologist Umberto Albarella at Britain's University of Sheffield.

The new chemical analysis wasn't precise enough to pinpoint the prehistoric cattle's exact origins, but the results prove that people were taking their livestock to Stonehenge from elsewhere in Britain, Albarella said.

"People were gathering from quite a large region," he said.

Furthermore, cattle bones excavated at the ancient settlement revealed no evidence of newborn calves. "If you have a site where animals were actually reared, you will almost certainly find a number of newborn casualties, but we are not finding that at all," Albarella said.

"So I'm pretty confident this is a consumer site," he added. "It is a site with a special purpose—where people are gathering, probably for feasting and eating an awful lot of meat."

Albarella is one of a large team of experts working on the Stonehenge Riverside Project, a continuing archaeological investigation led by Mike Parker Pearson, also from the University of Sheffield.

Parker Pearson, who has received funding from the National Geographic Society's Committee for Research and Exploration, proposes that Stonehenge and Durrington Walls were intimately connected. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News.)

The archaeologist said the two sites had corresponding standing circles—one of stone, and one of timber—that symbolized the realms of the living and the dead to ancestor-worshipping ancient Britons.

(Related story: "Stonehenge Was Cemetery First and Foremost, Study Says" [May 29, 2008])

Pagan Partying

The hundreds of prehistoric dwellings recently discovered at Durrington are thought to represent a seasonal village that accommodated pagan pilgrims who came to celebrate the winter and summer solstices.

Prehistoric garbage dumps, or middens, were filled with evidence of Stone Age partying, such as pig and cattle bones and broken pottery.

Further study of livestock remains may support a new idea that pilgrims from different regions had their own quarters within the village.

It appears that the types of pottery differ in different areas of the site, based on fragments studied so far, Albarella said.

"It's a hypothesis which needs to be tested," he added. "We may be able to associate cattle [remains] coming from different areas of the site with, perhaps, different regions of origin."

Stonehenge researchers have turned to livestock as a proxy for studying the movement of people because few human teeth have been found in the area.

Human remains unearthed at the monument itself consist of cremation burials, and during cremation, teeth tend to explode, Albarella observed.

"We do need teeth, because it's the enamel in the teeth that preserve the [isotope] signal," said team member Evans.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... 72775.html
 
The School Library Journal's non-fiction columnist went to Stonehenge.
http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/blog/1880000388/post/1840033384.html

In between headlines and theories, it's easy to lose track of the fact that people are working on this every day, dozens and hundreds of them, one mystery at a time, and that it's going pretty well.

Back From Stonehenge
September 17, 2008
It Was Not Indiana Jones -- No Space Ships -- But

staying with the archaeologists at Stonehenge was thrilling. Last year when I went I was with my family. We found a wonderful Bed and Breakfast in a 17th century manor hous, ate oatmeal every morning and joined in the digs later on. This year I went alone, so I bought a sleeping bag and joined the over 150 students and the squad of senior archaeologists in their campsite. We all had nice, clean, dry tents -- but it was a field of mud. Mud, mud, mud, mud, and more mud. England had not seen steady rain like this in years. One morning we were at a convenience store and someone pointed out a headline about people being drowned in another part of England -- something that just never happens. We were not in any danger, but when the bedraggled crew assembled at 8:15 every morning to get their marching orders for the day, the scene was a cross between photos of the trenches in World War I and my not entirely fond memories of being at Woodstock.

Apparently there was some grousing from the students -- one of the senior archaeologists gave a very English lecture about bucking up, seeing things through, and not moaning (after all someone else might hear you). And yet -- despite the mud, despite the Bridge On the River Kwai tone, many of us would not have chosen to be anywhere else. Because at the 17 trenches that had been opened all around the area, really smart, well trained people were interrogating the past. It is not that they were making spectacular discoveries. Rather it was more like an advent calendar. Open the ground and you find a new insight. For example, just in front of Stonehenge they located the very spot where the giant Sarsen stones were shaped -- they found the stones used to shape them, and even the trail of debris left as they were trimmed and smoothed. This will not make headlines, but it adds one more important detail to our understanding.

Thinking Done Here -- might have been the banner rippling in the breeze over the whole site. The experience left me feeling -- once again and all the more -- that if we can do anything in nonfiction for kids it is to stimulate them to think. Thinking, as this hardy band of muddy scientists was doing, keeps opening new doors. I don't have the full list of discoveries yet -- in fact the lab tests on artifacts they found will not even be complete until the end of the year. But it is safe to say that, for the very first time, we are finding how Stonehenge functioned as a part of a larger world of sites and rituals, and how that changed over time. As one archaeologist told me, this is not prehistory anymore, we can describe what happened year in twenty years periods.
 
Dig pinpoints Stonehenge origins
By James Morgan
Science reporter, BBC News

Archaeologists have pinpointed the construction of Stonehenge to 2300 BC - a key step to discovering how and why the mysterious edifice was built.

The radiocarbon date is said to be the most accurate yet and means the ring's original bluestones were put up 300 years later than previously thought.

The dating is the major finding from an excavation inside the henge by Profs Tim Darvill and Geoff Wainwright.

The duo found evidence suggesting Stonehenge was a centre of healing.

Others have argued that the monument was a shrine to worship ancestors, or a calendar to mark the solstices.

A documentary following the progress of the recent dig has been recorded by the BBC Timewatch series. It will be broadcast on Saturday 27 September.

For centuries, archaeologists have marvelled at the construction of Stonehenge, which lies on Salisbury Plain, Wiltshire.

Mineral analysis indicates that the original circle of bluestones was transported to the plain from a site 240km (150 miles) away, in the Preseli hills, South Wales.

This extraordinary feat suggests the stones were thought to harbour great powers.

Professors Darvill and Wainwright believe that Stonehenge was a centre of healing - a "Neolithic Lourdes", to which the sick and injured travelled from far and wide, to be healed by the powers of the bluestones.

They note that "an abnormal number" of the corpses found in tombs nearby Stonehenge display signs of serious physical injury and disease.

And analysis of teeth recovered from graves show that "around half" of the corpses were from people who were "not native to the Stonehenge area".

"Stonehenge would attract not only people who were unwell, but people who were capable of [healing] them," said Professor Darvill, of Bournemouth University.

"Therefore, in a sense, Stonehenge becomes 'the A & E' of southern England."

But without a reliable carbon date for the construction of Stonehenge, it has been difficult to establish this, or any other, theory.

Until now, the consensus view for the date of the first stone circle was anywhere between 2600 BC and 2400 BC.

To cement the date once and for all, Professors Darvill and Wainwright were granted permission by English Heritage to excavate a patch of earth just 2.5m x 3.5m, in between the two circles of giant sarsen stones.
The key was to get organic matter from the bluestone sockets

The dig unearthed about 100 pieces of organic material from the original bluestone sockets, now buried under the monument. Of these, 14 were selected to be sent for modern carbon dating, at Oxford University.

The result - 2300 BC - is the most reliable date yet for the erection of the first bluestones.

Strictly speaking, the result was rounded down to "between 2400 BC and 2200 BC" - but 2300BC is taken as the average.

An even more precise date will be produced in the coming months.

"It's an incredible feeling, a dream come true," said Professor Wainwright, formerly chief archaeologist at English Heritage.

"We told the world we were going to date Stonehenge. That was a risk, but I was always confident," said Professor Darvill.

Intriguingly, the date range ties in closely with the date for the burial of the so-called "Amesbury Archer", whose tomb was discovered three miles from Stonehenge.

Some archaeologists believe the Archer is the key to understanding why Stonehenge was built.

Analyses of his corpse and artefacts from his grave indicate he was a wealthy and powerful man, with knowledge of metal working, who had travelled to Salisbury from Alpine Europe, for reasons unknown.

Post mortem examinations show that he suffered from both a serious knee injury and a potentially fatal dental problem, leading Darvill and Wainwright to conclude that the Archer came to Stonehenge to be healed.

But without an accurate date for Stonehenge, it was not even clear whether the temple existed while the Archer was alive.

His remains have been dated between 2500 BC and 2300 BC - within the same period that the first stone circle was erected.

"It's quite extraordinary that the date of the Amesbury Archer is identical with our new date for the bluestones of Stonehenge," said Professor Darvill.

"These two things happening within living memory of each other for sure is something very, very important."


Professor Wainwright added: "Was the Amesbury Archer, as some have suggested, the person responsible for the building of Stonehenge? I think the answer to that is almost certainly 'no'.

"But did he travel there to be healed? Did he limp, or was he carried, all the way from Switzerland to Wiltshire, because he had heard of the miraculous healing properties of Stonehenge? 'Yes, absolutely'.

"Tim and I are quite convinced that people went to Stonehenge to get well. But Stonehenge probably had more than one purpose, so I have no problem with other people's interpretations."
All theories about Stonehenge must follow an accurate dating

Among other key finds, the team uncovered organic material that indicates people inhabited the Stonehenge site as long ago as 7200 BC - more than 3,500 years earlier than anything previously known.

They also found that bluestone chippings outnumbered sarsen stone chippings by three to one - which Wainwright takes to be a sign of their value.

"It could be that people were flaking off pieces of bluestone, in order to create little bits to take away... as lucky amulets," he said.


The duo are preparing to publish an academic report of their excavation, and will announce their findings to their peers next month, in a lecture at London's Society of Antiquaries.

Experts on Stonehenge said the new date was a major milestone in understanding Britain's most famous monument.

Dr Andrew Fitzpatrick, of Wessex Archaeology, said: "This is a great result - a very important one.

"The date of Stonehenge had been blowing in the wind. But this anchors it. It helps us to be secure about the chronology of events.
Profs Darvill and Wainwright believe their ideas hold true

"The theory that it was a centre of healing is certainly a plausible one, but I don't think we can rule out the other main competing theory - that the temple was a meeting point between the land of the living and the dead.

"I am not yet persuaded that the Amesbury Archer came to Stonehenge to be healed. I favour the interpretation that he was one of the earliest metal workers, who travelled to the area to make a living from his skills.

"In any case, it is still not clear if his burial predated Stonehenge."

Dave Batchelor, Stonehenge curator at English Heritage, said: "We are pleased that the professors' precision in targeting that small area of turf and their rigorous standards in archaeological excavations have produced such a rich collection of physical evidence.

"We are looking forward to seeing the results of the full analysis, but from what we understand so far, we believe they have added valuable information to the chronology of Stonehenge."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7625145.stm
 
Another Stonehenge story today:

Stonehenge's purpose revealed
Raphael Satter | September 23, 2008 - 5:27AM

LONDON - Two British archaeologists declared today that they have uncovered the core reason behind the construction of one of the world's best known and least understood landmarks.

The stone circle at Stonehenge has stood for thousands of years - and bred endless debate over whether it was a temple for ancient sun-worshippers, a sacred burial site, or even a kind of massive prehistoric astronomical calculator.

Professors Geoffrey Wainwright and Timothy Darvill argued their own explanation for the mysterious monument: Stonehenge, they said, was a kind of primeval Lourdes, drawing prehistoric pilgrims from around Europe.

"We found several reasons to believe that the stones were built as part of a belief in a healing process," Wainwright told journalists assembled at London's Society of Antiquaries.

Wainwright and Darvill, the first to excavate the site in more than 40 years, said the key to their theory was Stonehenge's double circle of bluestones - a rare rock known to geologists as spotted dolomite - which lie at the centre of the monument.

Dragged or floated on rafts from Pembrokeshire in Wales to Salisbury Plain in southern England, he said the bluestones were prized for their healing properties - as evidenced by the small mountain of flakes the scientists uncovered during their dig.

Pieces ended up buried in tombs across the area, a testament to people's fascination with the rocks, Wainwright said.

The proof was not only in the stones - but also in the bones. Skeletons recovered from the area showed signs of serious disease or injury. [My question: In the absence of modern medicine, what sort of skeletons were they expecting to find? :? ]

"People were in a state of distress, if I can put it as politely as that, when they came to the Stonehenge monument," Darvill said.

The evidence, they said, pointed to a kind of shrine where people from across the Europe would go to seek healing. But they cautioned that that did not rule out alternative theories for Stonehenge's uses.

"It could have been a temple, even as it was a healing centre," Darvill said. "Just as Lourdes, for example, is still a religious centre." [Another question: Why would people be buried at a 'healing centre' - you don't pile up corpses outside of a hospital, do you? :roll:]

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Megalithic monuments were certainly not places of worship but places of refuge for people fleeing the advances of mud.
- FURBISH LOUSEWART V, Unsafe Wherever You Go
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I don't see how they can say that the chips were prized for their healing qualities. They could have been talismans for fertility, protection against the spirits or invoking the gods, they could be simple souvenirs, they could just be chips from when the stones were being worked and erected...

As for dead people being there, it's not unreasonable to suppose that people with sufficient influence or of importance would want to be buried somewhere especially sacred..
 
Timble2 said:
As for dead people being there, it's not unreasonable to suppose that people with sufficient infoence or of importance would want to be buried somewhere especially sacred..

Which makes me wonder if I ever will have sufficient infoence to be buried somewhere scared? ;)
 
Why would people be buried at a 'healing centre' - you don't pile up corpses outside of a hospital, do you?

Well no, but I imagine it would be hard to carry a dead guy back to his house when you don't have any methods of transport other than giant logs.

That is a hilarious image :D
 
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