Object Beside Sun Or Lens Artefact/Flare?

[Schrodinger's Zebra]

Hello... I watched a youtube video this morning posted by a channel that mostly specialises in sky phenomena. I was somewhat intrigued by the first photo/video discussed by the uploader, and wanted to discuss it here as I knew there were people with more camera-know-how than I have, who might be able to shed some light.

Here is a screenshot:

As you can see, there is something visible bottom-left of the sun. As you watch the video you will see the person who took it, moving his camera around, trying to prove that this isn't a lens-flare. Sure enough, this object doesn't move (you can see a flare which does move relative to the camera).

So... thoughts? Can lens-flares or other artefacts, stay static in this way?

I'm not a believer in nibiru / planet x or what-have-you by the way - I'd think that if something was close enough to be visible like this then it would surely be having some gravitational effects. (Strange weather and earthquakes notwithstanding of course!)

But that said, to me at least, this does look slightly curious. If it turns out to be something curious then at least we'll be aware of it - but equally if it turns out to be some sort of camera artefact then at least we'll all be a bit more knowledgeable

Here is the full video (he shows other photos/videos later on, but this item appears first. He also shows it with different filters, etc.):

 

[EnolaGaia]

Here's what I think on first inspection ...

There's little that can be said without knowing more details about the camera, its lens(es), and how it was positioned / set up in capturing these images.

The herky-jerky little yellow dot / flare artifact dancing around doesn't demonstrate much of anything beyond the fact the quickly-dancing dot is probably produced inside the camera's lens array or on an intervening surface (e.g., a window pane).

The first and most significant clue is that there is a considerable fuzzy glare surrounding the sun in all the scenes. None of the scenes shows a well-defined sun disc. This means there's a lot of reflection / refraction occurring, either out / up in the scene itself or within the camera's optics.

The second clue can be seen if you freeze the video at the 0:51 mark. You'll notice that the little yellow dot, like the sun, has a noticeable halo around it. Perhaps more importantly, look at the radial arrangement of the bright things.

There's a circular dot up and to the right of the yellow dot. This secondary dot doesn't change position relative to the yellow dot as it dances around. This means the secondary dot is an optical artifact off the yellow dot analogous to the mystery object probably being a similar optical artifact off the fuzzy sun blob.

Notice also that there's a straight line through the fuzzy main sun blob, running roughly from the 2 o'clock to the 8 o'clock position. Unless the sun has sprouted rings, this is undoubtedly an optical artifact. Throughout the video the angular orientation of this flare line remains constant, and the position of the mystery object remains fixed relative to this flare line.

Now notice that the yellow dot, its secondary dot, and the mystery object are all clearly aligned along an imaginary line extending to the center point of the main fuzzy sun blob. This further suggests that the secondary items are optical artifacts.

I think the mystery object is an optical artifact in the scene itself (most probably a reflective / refractive result of the very high altitude haze causing the sun's disc to appear so fuzzy).

 

[Schrodinger's Zebra]

Here's what I think on first inspection ...

There's little that can be said without knowing more details about the camera, its lens(es), and how it was positioned / set up in capturing these images.

The herky-jerky little yellow dot / flare artifact dancing around doesn't demonstrate much of anything beyond the fact the quickly-dancing dot is probably produced inside the camera's lens array or on an intervening surface (e.g., a window pane).

The first and most significant clue is that there is a considerable fuzzy glare surrounding the sun in all the scenes. None of the scenes shows a well-defined sun disc. This means there's a lot of reflection / refraction occurring, either out / up in the scene itself or within the camera's optics.

The second clue can be seen if you freeze the video at the 0:51 mark. You'll notice that the little yellow dot, like the sun, has a noticeable halo around it. Perhaps more importantly, look at the radial arrangement of the bright things.

There's a circular dot up and to the right of the yellow dot. This secondary dot doesn't change position relative to the yellow dot as it dances around. This means the secondary dot is an optical artifact off the yellow dot analogous to the mystery object probably being a similar optical artifact off the fuzzy sun blob.

Notice also that there's a straight line through the fuzzy main sun blob, running roughly from the 2 o'clock to the 8 o'clock position. Unless the sun has sprouted rings, this is undoubtedly an optical artifact. Throughout the video the angular orientation of this flare line remains constant, and the position of the mystery object remains fixed relative to this flare line.

Now notice that the yellow dot, its secondary dot, and the mystery object are all clearly aligned along an imaginary line extending to the center point of the main fuzzy sun blob. This further suggests that the secondary items are optical artifacts.

I think the mystery object is an optical artifact in the scene itself (most probably a reflective / refractive result of the very high altitude haze causing the sun's disc to appear so fuzzy).

Aha! Thank you very much for your very detailed reply. This is the sort of thing I was hoping for, as I knew there would like be an earthly explanation, but I didn't know what.

An optical artifact in the scene itself... now I didn't think of that but I think Mr Zebra was on the right lines - he's home from work and I showed him the video just now before I read your reply, and he said he thought it was "maybe a reflection of the sun on moisture in the air high-up"

I'm still glad I posted it though, it will help us all to be a bit more aware of what we're looking at and what explanations there can be.

 

[Bigphoot2]

The dancing light reminds me of an effect seen when using a camera with an optical image stabiliser - basically a lens or a prism which jiggles about to counteract the effect of the camera jiggling about. Point the camera at a bright light and internal reflections in the stabiliser will make it appear there is a light dancing around.

 

[Schrodinger's Zebra]

The dancing light reminds me of an effect seen when using a camera with an optical image stabiliser - basically a lens or a prism which jiggles about to counteract the effect of the camera jiggling about. Point the camera at a bright light and internal reflections in the stabiliser will make it appear there is a light dancing around.

Ah so not just down to camera movement itself! That will explain why I did notice on second viewing how the light jiggles about more than the movement of the camera.