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New Squid Discoveries

lordshiva said:
Yer but..... no but....

How big was the squid? Was it a giant squid or just a tiny one very close to the camera? (to paraphrase Father Ted)

:confused:

Steve O'Shea, the giant squid expert, is trying to find more information and get a better quality picture (see the seocnd TONMO link in my post above).

Emps
 
A Thought...

Is this a Giant Squid (The Elusive One) or just a bloody big known species? If so, is this the first time it was caught on film in it's natural habitat? And, if so, wouldn't that make this photograph of extreme importance? And, if so, wouldn't that qualify it for a Pulitzer Prize, or something?

Make for one helluva' acceptance speach, wouldn't you think? Or, whatever it is they do...
 
424: Last I heard the teuthologist's opinion was still out on what it was - people were trying to get their hands on a better picture.

Your query also raises question about what is their natural habitat - we now have pictures of younger versions hunting at the surface and it may be that their natural habitat changes over time ;)

Emps
 
I merged a few general new squid finds threads to make a thread for non-Giant or Colossal Squid stories like:

Mystery Squid In Gulf Helps Prove New Ocean Research Concept

POSTED: 11:13 am EST March 1, 2005

FORT PIERCE, Fla. -- It took only a minute for scientists to discover a new deep-sea species with an experimental infrared camera and light-emitting artificial lure.

Now, the National Science Foundation has agreed to spend $500,000 to refine the concept developed by the Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute in Fort Pierce.

A large, 6-foot squid of a type never before photographed attacked the bait, a bioluminescent electronic "jellyfish," about 60 seconds after it was turned on in August off the Louisiana coast during Operation Deep Scope.

The Eye-in-the-Sea video system, which can sit on the ocean bottom for up to 24 hours, and the lure were used for the first time during the 10-day, $210,000 Deep Scope expedition into the Gulf of Mexico that set off from Panama City in the Florida Panhandle.

"This was phenomenal proof of concept," expedition co-leader Edith Widder said Monday. "In fact, it apparently has proven the concept because now I finally have funding from the National Science Foundation that is going to allow me to do this in a more advanced manner."

Widder, a senior scientist at Harbor Branch, said the two-year grant will be used to develop Eye-in-the-Sea so it can be connected to a mooring 3,000 feet deep in California's Monterey Bay.

The mooring would provide electrical power, eliminating the need for batteries, and allow the camera to send a continuous stream of video ashore for months at a time.

The original camera was built as a student project at Harvey Mudd College in Claremont, Calif., for $35,000 and the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute paid for the batteries.

"I got some money from the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration to put it in a bottle and to build a tripod for it," Widder said. "It's kind of been a stone soup, put together with little bits and pieces of money."

NOAA also funded the Deep Scope expedition. Another one is planned for this summer in the gulf to again photograph and perhaps capture the mystery squid and other rare or newly discovered species.

Scientists think Eye-in-the Sea may be a better tool for such missions than noisy and obtrusive mini-submarines or remote underwater vehicles that scare many creatures away. The camera also uses red light scientists believe is invisible to sea animals.

The identity of the mystery squid, bigger than calamari but smaller than the fabled giant squid, remains a puzzle.

Cephalopod biologist Michael Vecchione of the National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C., wrote in an e-mail to Widder that he was unable to identify it after viewing the seven-second video and consulting with other experts. It has body and tentacle characteristics different from any known squids, Widder said.

"The thing to appreciate is something this large to be totally unknown is phenomenal and just such an obvious indication of how little we understand about what's in our oceans," she said.

The electronic jellyfish is another new touch. It mimics light given off by natural bioluminescent jellyfish when they are being attacked, a characteristic scientists call a "burglar alarm" similar to fear screams in birds or monkeys.

"That scream occurs when an animal is caught in the clutches of a predator," Widder said. "Your only hope for escape may be to attract something bigger and nastier. It may come and attack what's attacking you."

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Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press.

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MARINE BIOLOGY

Deep in the gulf, a weird squid lurks

A Central Florida marine scientist is on the cutting edge of undersea discoveries. Her biggest find: a new kind of squid.

BY PHIL LONG

[email protected]

FORT PIERCE - Deep-sea research scientist Edith Widder has been to sushi restaurants many times.

But she's never had a visitor like this one at her table: A never-before-seen, six-foot squid showed up for lunch 2,000 feet below the Gulf of Mexico.

Widder's camera spotted the squid on the first day of a research dive off Louisiana last summer. On the squid's menu were fish heads, fish guts and an epoxy, electronic flashing jellyfish.

''They say I screamed when I saw it on the screen after they brought the camera up to the boat,'' Widder said.

GONE IN A WINK

The squid was in view for seven seconds, said Widder, a world-renowned expert in marine bioluminescence, the light produced by chemicals in marine animals. She captures images of those creatures using a low-light camera system taken to the sea floor by a submarine and left there.

When the camera light comes on, ''the squid looks like it is attacking about where the electronic jellyfish should have been,'' Widder said. ``It jets away with its arms streaming out behind it. It is very unusual in that it doesn't have the long tentacles that a squid normally has.''

Squids usually have eight arms and two long tentacles.

''It has two tentacles, but they are thick and stubby, and that is very odd,'' she said.

No one knows exactly how to classify the squid.

The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration is sending Widder and her ''Eye in the Sea'' back to the Gulf for more pictures, and the National Science Foundation has given her $500,000 to set up a more permanent observatory on the floor of the Pacific Ocean off California.

After examining the video of the creature, Michael Vecchione, NOAA squid and octopus biologist at the National Museum of National History at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., said he could not confidently identify it, even at the family level.

VAST UNKNOWN

''We have explored less than 5 percent of our oceans, and there are these phenomenal things out there to be discovered yet,'' Widder told The Herald.

Researchers do know that the ocean can help medicine.

''Green fluorescent protein,'' discovered in jellyfish by another scientist, has had a huge effect on research of cancerous tumors, Widder said. The substance, now created synthetically, allows researchers to see much more clearly the effect of cancer drugs on tumors.

Widder's latest work is based on what she calls ``unobtrusive observation.''

The video camera sits in a seven-foot-tall, 200-pound aluminum tripod-like platform. The camera uses a 12mm or 25mm wide-angle lens. The camera has two strong image intensifiers that make it possible to capture objects in very low light. Because creatures at that depth are not sensitive to red light, that's what she uses to illuminate the scene.

Because of battery life, the observation platform can be down at the ocean floor for only 24 hours at a time.

''Her work on bioluminescence is just strictly cutting edge,'' Vecchione said.

Bioluminescence is Widder's passion.

NATURAL LIGHTING

Thousands of creatures, such as shrimp, squid and jellyfish, have unique flash patterns of bioluminescent light.

''Some use it for finding food,'' Widder said. Some use it for finding mates.

Some animals might have a ''built-in flashlight'' under the eye, or a lure like an angler fish uses to attract prey. Some attract a mate with a particular flashing pattern, like fireflies do, Widder said.

Others use light ''like a burglar alarm, like a scream for help.'' When that happens, predators often drop prey rather than risk becoming prey themselves.

Others produce bioluminescence that matches the color and intensity of the sunlight penetrating through seawater, Widder said.

''It is the perfect cloaking device,'' keeping predators below from seeing the animal, she said. ``It is absolutely amazing to see.''

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That is...alien-looking.
 
... But is it just me or does it not seem all that squid like? ...

It reminds me of the once-canonical illustration for a virus.
 
My theory is they were the very first form of life on this planet, coming across space from far away. They spawned all lower lifeforms as a sort of scientific experiment, and they're just sitting there watching what's going on. Now that we've spotted them, they're probably going to have to kill us and start over.:eek!!!!:

This scenario may be more reasonable than you thought ...
Squid could thrive under climate change

Squid will survive and may even flourish under even the worst-case ocean acidification scenarios, according to a new study published this week.

Dr Blake Spady, from the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies (Coral CoE) at James Cook University (JCU), led the study. He said squid live on the edge of their environmental oxygen limitations due to their energy-taxing swimming technique. They were expected to fare badly with more carbon dioxide (CO2) in the water, which makes it more acidic.

"Their blood is highly sensitive to changes in acidity, so we expected that future ocean acidification would negatively affect their aerobic performance," said Dr Spady. ...

But when the team tested two-toned pygmy squid and bigfin reef squid at JCU's research aquarium, subjecting them to CO2 levels projected for the end of the century, they received a surprise.

"We found that these two species of tropical squid are unaffected in their aerobic performance and recovery after exhaustive exercise by the highest projected end-of-century CO2 levels," said Dr Spady.

He said it may be an even greater boost for the squid as some of their predators and prey have been shown to lose performance under predicted climate change scenarios. ...

"We are likely to see certain species as being well-suited to succeed in our rapidly changing oceans, and these species of squid may be among them."

"The thing that is emerging with most certainty is that it's going to be a very different world," he said.

FULL STORY: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190613123713.htm

PUBLISHED REPORT:
https://academic.oup.com/conphys/article/7/1/coz024/5512142
 
What will squid live on if the fish die off?
 
I see what you did there.....
 
Squid brains approach those of dogs

Source: University of Queensland / phys.org
Date: 28 January, 2020

We are closer to understanding the incredible ability of squid to instantly camouflage themselves thanks to research from The University of Queensland.

Dr. Wen-Sung Chung and Professor Justin Marshall, from UQ's Queensland Brain Institute, completed the first MRI-based mapping of the squid brain in 50 years to develop an atlas of neural connections.

"This the first time modern technology has been used to explore the brain of this amazing animal, and we proposed 145 new connections and pathways, more than 60 percent of which are linked to the vision and motor systems," Dr. Chung said.

"The modern cephalopods, a group including octopus, cuttlefish and squid, have famously complex brains, approaching that of a dog and surpassing mice and rats, at least in neuronal number.

"For example, some cephalopods have more than 500 million neurons, compared to 200 million for a rat and 20,000 for a normal mollusk.

Some examples of complex cephalopod behaviour include the ability to camouflage themselves despite being colorblind, count, recognize patterns, problem solve and communicate using a variety of signals.

"We can see that a lot of neural circuits are dedicated to camouflage and visual communication. Giving the squid a unique ability to evade predators, hunt and conspecific communicate with dynamic color changes."

https://phys-org.cdn.ampproject.org.../news/2020-01-squid-brains-approach-dogs.html
 
The odd and rarely-seen ram's horn squid has been captured on video. This is the first footage ever collected of the ram's horn squid in the wild.
Scientists Are Freaking Out Over The First-Ever Footage of This Bizarre Squid

Ram's horn shells are small, delicate spiral structures beachcombers can commonly find throughout the world.

Yet despite their ubiquity, the original owners of these shells are extremely elusive. Until now, we've never had footage of a single one in the wild.

In the twilight zone of our oceans, at the tips of sunlight's fingers, a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) has now delivered the first footage of a ram's horn squid (Spirula spirula) in its natural habitat.

This strange-looking cephalopod is a wee little thing barely 7 centimetres (under 3 inches) in length, with eight arms, two tentacles, a pair of bulging eyes, and a general muppet-like appearance.

In its tail-end, hidden beneath its mantle, is a tightly-coiled internal shell equipped with chambers of gas that the animal manipulates for buoyancy.

At first, researchers operating the ROV at the Schmidt Ocean Institute had no idea what they were looking at.

"What on Earth?" a scientist can be heard exclaiming in the background of the video, which was shot live on the Great Barrier Reef at a depth of roughly 850 to 860 metres (2,790 ft). ...

FULL STORY (With Videos):
https://www.sciencealert.com/first-...-ram-s-horn-squid-has-scientists-freaking-out
 
Vid at link

Bigfin squid spotted in Australia for first time

The first sighting of a Bigfin squid has been made in the Great Australian Bight by researchers.The species has only had 12 recorded sightings worldwide and tends to live in darker parts of the ocean.

Footage courtesy of Osterhage et al 2020

Published18 hours ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/science-environment-54923456
 
Divers have been mystified by strange spherical blobs floating in the Mediterranean and around Norway since the mid-1980s. Researchers have finally determined these blobs are in fact the egg sacs produced by a well-known squid species.
Mysterious 'blobs' near Norway are full of squid mucus and embryos, study finds

Several years ago, divers exploring the western coast of Norway encountered an object they couldn't explain: An enormous, jelly-like orb, more than 3 feet (1 meter) wide, was hovering in place partway between the seafloor and the surface. A dark streak cut through the center of the orb, but the object was otherwise translucent and totally featureless.

It was, simply put, a perfectly inscrutable blob.

Nearly 100 similar blob sightings have been reported around Norway and the Mediterranean Sea since 1985, but the mysterious gelatinous masses have always evaded classification. Now, thanks to a year-long citizen science campaign and a new DNA analysis, researchers have finally identified the blobs as the rarely-seen egg sacs of a common squid called Illex coindetii. ...

According to a new study, published March 30 in the journal Scientific Reports, each blob may contain hundreds of thousands of teensy squid eggs, encased in a bubble of slowly disintegrating mucus. Remarkably, while scientists have known about I. coindetii for more than 180 years and have observed the species widely around the Mediterranean and both sides of the Atlantic, this is the first time they have identified the squid's egg sacs in the wild ...

FULL STORY: https://www.livescience.com/gelatinous-blob-squid-egg-mystery-solved.html
 
Bigfin squid spotted in Australia for first time
The first sighting of a Bigfin squid has been made in the Great Australian Bight by researchers.The species has only had 12 recorded sightings worldwide and tends to live in darker parts of the ocean. ...

This LiveScience article provides video of a new bigfin squid encounter in the Gulf of Mexico.
Eerie video captures elusive, alien-like squid gliding in the Gulf of Mexico

A ghostly squid with huge, iridescent fins and funky, elbow-like bends in its tentacles is rarely seen, but scientists recently captured stunning footage of the elusive animal during an expedition in the Gulf of Mexico.

To date, there have been fewer than 20 confirmed sightings of this deep-sea cephalopod, known as a bigfin squid (Magnapinna), and this recent sighting adds one more to the list, according to a statement from NOAA Ocean Exploration.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists spotted the elusive squid on their recent "Windows to the Deep 2021: Southeast ROV and Mapping expedition" ...
FULL STORY: https://www.livescience.com/bigfin-squid-spotted-on-noaa-expedition-video
 
Squid aren't known for dynamic self-camouflage like their cousins the cuttlefish and octopi. Researchers in Japan were recently surprised to discover dynamic camouflage in captivity-raised oval squid.
Video Shows Off a Squid's Unexpected Camouflage Skill For The First Time

Octopuses and cuttlefish are the ultimate wallflowers. By changing the patterns and colors of their skin, these cephalopods can slip into the background of almost any seafloor scene.

Squid, in comparison, are usually translucent or iridescent, but that doesn't mean they don't have a colorful trick or two up their eight sleeves.

Recently, scientists in Japan were surprised to find a species of oval squid raised in captivity could change its coat, depending on whether its tank was clean or covered in algae.

Usually, this species, known as the white-squid (Sepioteuthis lessoniana sp.2), is light in color to match the bright ocean surface where it is typically found. Against a dirty layer of glass, however, the cephalopods suddenly grew much darker.

Researchers experimented with the accidental discovery and cleaned one half of the squid's tank while leaving the other half dirty.

The video footage the authors subsequently collected shows remarkable squid camouflage in action. As the species swims from the tank's algae side to the tank's clean side, its skin immediately switches from light to dark. ...

According to the authors, it's the first time a squid has been caught camouflaging against a background under laboratory conditions.

"This effect really is striking. I am still surprised that nobody has noticed this ability before us," says biologist Zdenek Lajbner from the Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology (OIST) in Japan.

"It shows just how little we know about these wonderful animals." ...
FULL STORY (With Videos): https://www.sciencealert.com/some-s...bilities-on-par-with-octopuses-and-cuttlefish
 
Here's a video illustrating the oval squid camouflage behavior ...

 
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