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    Britain: Police State?

    Some on here don't think they are keeping their beady little eyes on us !!! Black shirts
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    Britain: Police State?

    I see what you meen Feen, if one always watched his speedo 24/7 every 20 secs when driving then you should never go over a speed limit. yep that will work you won't get fined. you may accidentally run a few people over tho whilst studying your speedo with such gusto. and are all the roads...
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    Britain: Police State?

    as things are now you a probably right if you have all the GPS stuff etc you can buy for your car. but if all the roads everywhere are monitored , how long before you ( the careful driver ) slips up ???
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    Britain: Police State?

    your still deliberatley missing the point Dr B ! people will speed its a fact, it happens, it can be stopped by technology ( speed bumps and chicanes car limiters, etc etc ) that doesnt fill the coffers of the policy police or it can be done to fill their pockets, speed bumps slow down but...
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    The Death Of Dr David Kelly

    Not deliberatley no Ted they are not. I was just pointing out that anything that has been dramatized has been the official line of the hutton enquiry and not a thing about the apparent murder theories
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    The Death Of Dr David Kelly

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 679754.ece reinforcing the myth of suicide ? bit like that farsical documentary that was on TV last year I seem to remember. would be good if someone made a proper documentary intersperced with dialogue from the Hutton Enquiry and eye witness...
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    Britain: Police State?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 22528.html becareful how many powers they get !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Britain: Police State?

    acpo have loads of tax payers cash stashed for a non proffit organization hmmmm http://www.rac.co.uk/web/know-how/motor ... OAD+SAFETY they obviously need much more !!! whats wrong with speed bumps and chicanes ? answer - they don't tax people !!! and make the acpo loads of...
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    Britain: Police State?

    this may be the credit crunch http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... check.html hmmmm
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    Britain: Police State?

    I'm not even going to bother answering that TB2 !!!! anyway http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7889631.stm
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    Britain: Police State?

    seperate issue yes Ted and Just as important ! If they cannot 100% guarantee data safety ( and they have a poor record and thats being kind ) then the whole thing is flawed. We the people have not voted nationally on the introduction of an ID card, in fact most polls have shown we don't...
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    Britain: Police State?

    I totally disagree with that DR B, your making assumptions about my driving that you know nothing about. and its impossible to stay at precisely 30 miles an hour in a modern car without constantly monitoring your speed visually, like you say we all falter slightly, that should not be regarded as...
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    Britain: Police State?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 06531.html and we are happy to have all the data in one database ?
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    Britain: Police State?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -loss.html and we trust them with even more data on every aspect of our privacy ?
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    Britain: Police State?

    as a rule DR I do all those things, I have however been 3 miles an hour over the speed limit on two occasions only to get fined for not constantly staring at my speedo, I was guilty of watching the road !!! if my car couldnt go over the speed limit in the first place I would be the first to...
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    Britain: Police State?

    Dr B why not use this technology with the assistance of the car manufacturers to limit the cars speed to be compliant ? disable them when they are stolen, only track stolen cars ? cause all the others can go no faster than the speed limit anyway. it would also take away the need for...
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    Britain: Police State?

    so are the real criminals acting with Criminal Intent ( Mens Rea ) and are people 4 miles an hour over the speed limit picked up on a huge speeding camera system acting with criminal intent ? http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/intent
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    Britain: Police State?

    Just like old times ! like i've never been away !!. hey Dr B are the police more interested with raising capital from people who are breaking the little laws or arresting proper criminals ?
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    Britain: Police State?

    Well Ted If I was a criminal, a good one hopefully! were talking organised crime here not Joe Bloggs down the road I would steal a car same model and colour , make a fake plate from another car same make and model, having stolen all these details from the database so kindly put together...
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    Britain: Police State?

    hmmmm yet another surveilance item that can be tracked. http://www.caslon.com.au/anprnote2.htm whole page is worth reading !!!!!!!!!!!!! but surely we must be guilty of something the police can pin on you, maybe from 5 years ago !!!!
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    Britain: Police State?

    quite possibly, but any savvy crook worth his salt knows if he makes a fake number plate based on someone elses, and uses a slightly different size and font and spacing can fool the anpr system and not be tracked, thus relying on mobile coppers to be vigilant. the whole idea of the system is...
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    Britain: Police State?

    So let me get this staight mr Chief constable such and such you've iplemented a multi million pound surveilence system that monitors 50 million car journeys a day every day and you store all of them in a database for 5 years.. wasn't the first anpr a MI5 security system ? yes I thought it...
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    Britain: Police State?

    10% DRIVERS FACE £1,000 FINES FOR DEFECTIVE NUMBER PLATES Swinton warns motorists to be vigilant when buying registration plates One in ten motorists face fines of up to £1,000 for driving with registration plates that do not conform to DVLA regulations, according to Swinton, the UK’s...
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    Britain: Police State?

    Ted if you can't actually do anything useful without a card it is effectively mandatory , surely you can see this, a bank card is mandatory to use a cashline machine, you need your NI number to get a job. if the ID card is tied into these you will need an ID CARD to survive. unless you...
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    Britain: Police State?

    What if I simply refused to use the card? You will not be required to use a card unless you wish to work, use the banking or health system, travel or receive benefits. As Mr Blunkett advised http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... ext/20703- 07.htm Parliament: "The issuing of a card does...
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    Britain: Police State?

    Your scaring me JimV !!!!!!!!!!!! useful info for those that care TED http://www.privacyinternational.org/iss ... w-1204.pdf
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    Britain: Police State?

    You will not be required to use a card unless you wish to work, use the banking or health system, travel or receive benefits that just about covers everyone except bums in card board boxes. and perhaps terrorists !!!
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    Britain: Police State?

    National ID card offences - already in place 19.10.2006 17:03 New offences under the ID Cards Act include the following (at least correct just before Bill was passed): *refusal to obey an order to register = £2500 *failure to submit to fingerprinting and biometric scanning = £2500...
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    Britain: Police State?

    Ted its easy to make them compulsory without the need for them to announce it. all it takes is ID cards are needed for any public service access and access and purchases to supermakets. job done, without your card you would be buggered !
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    Britain: Police State?

    Tell you what why don't we spend 4.4 billion when were broke as a country facing a banking disaster day by day. on ID cards that are not mandatory !!! hey thats a good idea. theres no point in issuing ID cards in any shape or form unless its mandatory. no good saying it won't...
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    Britain: Police State?

    If you say so Ted who am I to argue http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/p ... 162669.ece then again !
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    Britain: Police State?

    its only a matter of time folks Passive UHF RFID passive reading to up to 30 feet away no maintenance no clashes tagged and bagged why have the trouble trying to ID with cctv when each camera could be fitted with a reader and pick up a tag, ID card passport, driving license, posh...
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    Britain: Police State?

    There hasn't been any difference for the last 10 years NUlabour = Maggie T
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    ID Cards / Identification Cards

    is that stampede I can hear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Britain: Police State?

    Funny I got the impression from the guardian that they thought we should be better than 23rd !!!! you obviously didn't get that gist from reading it. and came back with completley the opposite of what the article is trying to say. Mind you Ted nothing new there is there !! we should...
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    Britain: Police State?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/oc ... publishing I can see why you didnt want to post the link now !!!! was'nt really supporting your view much was it ?
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    Britain: Police State?

    your source please !!! also if true I think that if we are 23rd in the world of how many country's ? is pretty abismal to be honest, what happened ??? have we allways been this low down ? The uk should be leading the world in freedoms not coming in a lame 23rd.
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    Britain: Police State?

    Funny I seem to remember saying this would happen 2 years ago and got called tinfoil hat man !!!!!!!!!!!! 10 million jOUNEYS already tracked pretty cool !
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    Depleted Uranium From Weapons: Risks And Cover-Ups

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... -20723159/ hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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    Depleted Uranium From Weapons: Risks And Cover-Ups

    http://www.cadu.org.uk/info/military/24_1.htm minority calling the shots here ???
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    The Death Of Dr David Kelly

    not on its own no !!! but what about all the other things wembley ?
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    The Death Of Dr David Kelly

    Thermal imagers can see through brick walls !!! a few whispy branches would not stop them seeing the body at its temp 1:15am ish. perhaps the answer is the body wasnt there to be seen ????? put there later maybe ?
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    Mysterious Deaths Of Microbiologists

    so these 43,000 microbiologists are all working with anthrax ? anyway I,m sure there are more dead than the 80 or so that are listed, what is interesting is how they died and if the types of deaths are in suspicious circumstances. lets stick with the recent Irvin case for the time being...
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    Mysterious Deaths Of Microbiologists

    Well lets say he did commit suicide for a minute. if he did it was probably becouse he was being hounded like the other chap who sued the government. he appears to be a bit depressed accoridng to accounts due to being hounded. they don'y really have much evidence to speak of. perhaps...
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    Mysterious Deaths Of Microbiologists

    Dr Bruce Ivins why no suicide note ? The FBI had'nt yet indicted him ? nice and tidy for those looking into this isn't it. hmmmmmmmmmmm
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    Mysterious Deaths Of Microbiologists

    Hmmm Millions of Microbiologists !! Millions of plumbers ? nah I reckon there is far fewer emminent Microbiologists dealing with things like anthrax then we think, a lot less in fact.
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    Depleted Uranium From Weapons: Risks And Cover-Ups

    http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/18995 http://www.neurope.eu/articles/87086.php seems some poeple are listening !
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    Depleted Uranium From Weapons: Risks And Cover-Ups

    http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/18995 http://www.neurope.eu/articles/87086.php seems some poeple are listening !
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    September 11th: The History of 9/11

    would someone care to list me the hijackers names please. oh and don't include anyone still alive please !!!
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    Nuclear Or Renewable Energy Future: Is There A Conspiracy?

    http://news.scotsman.com/opinion/Labour ... 3692046.jp
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