gattino
Justified & Ancient
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As some regular visitors to these boards will know I've had a fixation in recent months with apparently precognitive dreams, many of which I've reported on here.
In relation to this I've recently read a few books by dream diarists who claim the same thing...albeit in more spectacular and controlled fashion than me. And yesterday started the much mentioned Experiment With Time by JW Dunne in whom I find my own views, experiences and observations mirrored straight back at me.
We'll skip all the theory. The point of all this is that reading this stuff and coming to some conclusions as to how it works, this mornign at 6am while lying in bed and after reporting what was left of last night's dreams into a digital recorder to see if any of it turned up in real life, a better idea occurred to me. Why not combine the relaxed mental state of sleep with the directed purposeful "viewing" of wide awake conscious experiments? Could I, by doing it in those early morning eyes-still-closed moments, direct my attention to try and predict a specific target, without the confusing plotline of a dream or the mental distractions of being fully awake?
Here's is the transcript of my 6am recording:
"I've tried to foresee page 5 of the Sunday Mirror..or rather random images than come into my mind when I thought of page 5 of the Sunday Mirror...The first thing that came to mind was the word "hunger" or "Hungary"...by association anorexia came to mind...Jim'll Fix It..maybe its the "x" thing, but something about Jimmy Saville...erm...think that's about it really."
Here is what turned out to be on Page 5 of today's Sunday Mirror (I chose page 5 btw to avoid any headline being predictable by normal means, ie a story that featured on tv news last night)
[A devoted sceptic will of course ignore the monumental hit and immediately hone in on the few words I said that weren't related to jimmy saville or on the page...hunger/Hungary and anorexia...which is to misunderstand entirely what's going on. They were not offered as predictions, but are a series of random thoughts allowed to enter my mind, and following a chain of association towards the target. The clue to this is contained in my own words "maybe its the x thing"... I was noting the X sound in anorexia might have lead my mind on to the word jim'llfixit with its own central X. This is in fact how I believe all concidences between thoughts...waking or dreaming..come about... a chain of word or image associations leading the mind from the trigger or starting point towards the future event or encounter]
Anyway I'll leave you to judge whether this was a success or not. I'll obviously try it again. But better still, why don't you?
In relation to this I've recently read a few books by dream diarists who claim the same thing...albeit in more spectacular and controlled fashion than me. And yesterday started the much mentioned Experiment With Time by JW Dunne in whom I find my own views, experiences and observations mirrored straight back at me.
We'll skip all the theory. The point of all this is that reading this stuff and coming to some conclusions as to how it works, this mornign at 6am while lying in bed and after reporting what was left of last night's dreams into a digital recorder to see if any of it turned up in real life, a better idea occurred to me. Why not combine the relaxed mental state of sleep with the directed purposeful "viewing" of wide awake conscious experiments? Could I, by doing it in those early morning eyes-still-closed moments, direct my attention to try and predict a specific target, without the confusing plotline of a dream or the mental distractions of being fully awake?
Here's is the transcript of my 6am recording:
"I've tried to foresee page 5 of the Sunday Mirror..or rather random images than come into my mind when I thought of page 5 of the Sunday Mirror...The first thing that came to mind was the word "hunger" or "Hungary"...by association anorexia came to mind...Jim'll Fix It..maybe its the "x" thing, but something about Jimmy Saville...erm...think that's about it really."
Here is what turned out to be on Page 5 of today's Sunday Mirror (I chose page 5 btw to avoid any headline being predictable by normal means, ie a story that featured on tv news last night)
[A devoted sceptic will of course ignore the monumental hit and immediately hone in on the few words I said that weren't related to jimmy saville or on the page...hunger/Hungary and anorexia...which is to misunderstand entirely what's going on. They were not offered as predictions, but are a series of random thoughts allowed to enter my mind, and following a chain of association towards the target. The clue to this is contained in my own words "maybe its the x thing"... I was noting the X sound in anorexia might have lead my mind on to the word jim'llfixit with its own central X. This is in fact how I believe all concidences between thoughts...waking or dreaming..come about... a chain of word or image associations leading the mind from the trigger or starting point towards the future event or encounter]
Anyway I'll leave you to judge whether this was a success or not. I'll obviously try it again. But better still, why don't you?