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Act Of Terror? Arrested For Filming Police Officers

This video is completely incorrect. Nobody in the UK has ever been arrested or imprisoned for filming the Police. There is no law against it.

I think that she might have been threatened with arrest for obstructing the Police here.
 
its very difficult getting anywhere with a complaint against the police ... professional standards / chief constables / ipcc / MPs ... nothing sticks
 
If you have a legitimate complaint, it will. If a Police Officer has found to have acted improperly then it will be investigated. The system is completely transparent.
 
I don't really understand your reply and perhaps you would like to expand. People complain about the police for a number of reasons, perhaps because legitimate Police Powers, actions or procedures have not been properly explained at the time or because of the unwillingness of the complainant to change their mindset or ingrained ideas about how the Police 'are'. However, as I have outlined above - if a legitimate complaint is lodged and a Police Officer has acted improperly then it will be investigated. Some people make malicious complaints about Police Officers which are totally unfounded.

Some people seem to think that the Police work as a large, insular and conspiratorial body which is totally unaccountable. This is completely untrue and is an idea promoted by certain parts of the media and in the mindset of persons with an anti Police agenda.

People in this country should be thankful of having an honest, approachable transparent and accountable Police service, which is completely contrary to the 'service' which you would receive in some other European countries, let alone the rest of the world.
 
pornosonic1975 said:
If you have a legitimate complaint, it will. If a Police Officer has found to have acted improperly then it will be investigated. The system is completely transparent.
what i mean to say is ... surely an officer could only be found to have acted improperly as the result of a complaint having been investigated !

police complaints procedure may be transparent but its lip service ... unless something finds it way to a really high level or catches media
 
pornosonic1975 said:
Is this based on personal experience?

In Ireland it is difficult to get complaints of assault or seizing of cameras at demos taken seriously.
 
ramonmercado said:
pornosonic1975 said:
Is this based on personal experience?

In Ireland it is difficult to get complaints of assault or seizing of cameras at demos taken seriously.

We are talking about the UK here. The general silence of everybody after my last question speaks volumes!
 
just checked and its not in my sent or outbox either ... dont know what happened there

in answer to your question yes its from my own personal experience ... i also do voluntary work which brings me into contact with lots of people who are facing issues with police performance ... there is a almost universal experience that complaining about police performance will only bring petulence ... im not by any means antipolice and have a lot of respect there ... but often its so hard to get action or answers and any notion of complaint will be counter productive
 
i wouldnt want to go into too much detail for myself and it wasnt related to filming or otherwise recording any inappropriate activity ... more general performance and case management ... recourse to all the parties above proved completely fruitless and the amount of misdrection and actual lies flying around was crazy ... ultimately i had to wait for one individual to retire before the case went anywhere ... which it then did and remained on track until completion ... my advice now is not to bother complaining simply to work with what youve got ...
 
So your gripe is based on one experience? Without knowing any more detail it is impossible for anyone to deduce whether you have a valid complaint or not.

The point that I'm getting at here is that nobody can provide any evidence that the Police have acted improperly against themselves or others and as I have shown, the original posters link is from a sensational young woman who has told us all a load of rubbish in that you cannot be arrested purely for filming a Police officer. Google it - nobody ever has.
 
the above is based on my experience but i dont have a axe to grind ... im also aware at first hand of exactly the same issues in about a dozen other cases from the last few years ... and hear the same issues from trusted sources time and again ... the police tend to live in a different world from the rest of us ... one of the reasons they are so out of touch is that their complaints procedure is a closed circle and a foregone conclusion ... of course i could be wrong and they have a very evolved and transparent non-partisan complaints procedure that works most of the time ! if youve been through the process you will no doubt be left with a clear impression one way or the other ...
 
Read about Katie Bowman and her travails with Thames Valley Police.
 
Monstrosa said:
Read about Katie Bowman and her travails with Thames Valley Police.

Do you have a link?

The problem that we have here is that one person's gripe or complaint is being used as a representation of how Police all over the country deal with things.

It's like the assumption - 'all Police are racist' or 'All Police were bullied at school', which are simply ridiculous statements.
 
So, she had no problem with how he got her number when the attention was wanted, but did a 180 and lodged a formal complaint when she ended it? :roll:
 
Exactly. I wouldn't believe everything the BBC says or what any newspaper writes. It's totally preposterous to suggest that an entire Police force from the Chief Constable down has colluded to harass a member of the public. It just wouldn't happen!
 
pornosonic1975 said:
This video is completely incorrect. Nobody in the UK has ever been arrested or imprisoned for filming the Police. There is no law against it.

I think that she might have been threatened with arrest for obstructing the Police here.
In the United States it is legal due to the 1st amendment even if there is a law against it. The law is null and void.
They arrest people for it anyway. Some jurisdictions received training that it is eavesdropping, which is totally false.
 
Exactly. I wouldn't believe everything the BBC says or what any newspaper writes. It's totally preposterous to suggest that an entire Police force from the Chief Constable down has colluded to harass a member of the public. It just wouldn't happen!

Perhaps not, but I could imagine a jilted and pissed off officer causing trouble for his ex and perhaps encouraging friends to do so. You don't need the whole force to be in on this, you just need a handful of people to be acting inappropriately and then a lack of will on the part of their managers to deal with the problem; perhaps because the matter complained about seems trivial or the complainant is herself difficult or inarticulate when raising her concerns.

No doubt there is more to this than meets the eye but I'm quite sure it is relatively easy for vindictive officers to engage in low level harassment of the sort described.
 
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