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Paracas / Palpa Geoglyphs (Peru): Older Than The Nazca Lines

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Ancient earth drawings older than the country's Nazca lines, discovered in Peru

LIMA, Peru (AP) - Archeologists have discovered a group of figures scraped into the hills of Peru's southern coastal desert that are believed to predate the country's famous Nazca lines.

About 50 giant figures were etched into the earth over an area roughly 145 square kilometres near the city of Palpa, El Comercio newspaper reported.

The drawings - which include human figures as well as animals such as birds, monkeys, and felines - are believed to be created by members of the Paracas Culture sometime between 600 and 100 B.C. Johny Islas, the director of the Andean Institute of Archaeological Studies told the newspaper.

One prominent figure appears to represent the main deity of the Paracas Culture that is commonly depicted on textiles and ceramics that date from the period, Islas said.

The recently discovered designs predate the country's famous Nazca lines that cover a 56 kilometres stretch of desert that have mystified scientists and were added to the United Nation's Cultural Heritage list in 1994.

The Nazca culture flourished between 50 B.C. and 600 A.D., Islas said.

The lines - which also include pictographs of various animals - are one of Peru's top tourist attractions with about 80,000 tourists flying over the site every year.

http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050227/CPW/81333033

(hope they're not modern fakes!!!)

mal
 
So is there any relation between the Paracas and Nazca cultures?

From the timescales involved I wondered if the one slowly turned into the other with migration? Moved away from their original homelands but kept the tradition of the huge drawings?

Or pre-columbian Peru was full of really serious graffitti artists... :D
 
So is there any relation between the Paracas and Nazca cultures? ...

Yes ... The Paracas and Nazca cultures occupied the same general region of coastal Peru, but at different times. The estimated timeframe for the Paracas culture is circa 800 to circa 100 BCE. The estimated timeframe for the Nazca culture is circa 100 BCE to circa 800 CE (AD).

The Paracas culture is therefore considered the immediate "parent" or "ancestor" to the Nazca culture.

Nazca Culture and iconography are believed by scholars such as Helaine Silverman to evolve smoothly out of Paracas culture. Hendrik Van Gijseghem notes that the Paracas remains in the Río Grande de Nazca drainage, the heartland of Nazca culture, are limited. He further states that in contrast, there are abundant Paracas remains in the Ica, Pisco, and Chincha valleys, as well as the Bahía de la Independencia. The southern Nasca region, which became the most populous region, was never an important area of Paracas occupation. Scholars argue that initial settlement of the region by Paracas populations and subsequent population growth mark the beginning of Nazca society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracas_culture
 
Why are they not seen as a continuation of the same culture?
 
Why are they not seen as a continuation of the same culture?

Good question ...

In effect, the more recent finds described in this thread serve to further blur the distinctions between the Paracas and Nazca cultures.

One of archaeology's central problems concerns producing a single coherent historical explanation or narrative covering whatever is found wherever it is found. Phrased another way ... Archaeology always has to confront the issue of weaving together random "samples" (finds) into an overall picture spanning long timeframes. This task is greatly complicated in scenarios where there are no written records or artifacts conveying text (broadly defined).

The distinctions drawn to date between Paracas and Nazca cultures derived from apparent differences in:

- specific site locations within the general region
- stylistic features of certain artifacts (e.g., pottery)
- skull deformation practices strongly correlated with the earlier period (attributed / named as "Paracas")
- monumental geoglyphs strongly correlated with the later period (attributed / named as "Nazca")

The strong correlation between monumental geoglyphs and the later period is undermined by the finds reported here.

It wouldn't be surprising if decades from now all these elements are re-characterized as representing a single culture with earlier and later phases rather than two distinguishable cultures.
 
Why are they not seen as a continuation of the same culture?
... It wouldn't be surprising if decades from now all these elements are re-characterized as representing a single culture with earlier and later phases rather than two distinguishable cultures.

This lengthy Guardian article indicates research is indeed being focused on understanding the transition between the earlier Palpa hillside geoglyphs and the later Nazca geoglyphs on the nearby plain.
Scratching the surface: drones cast new light on mystery of Nazca Lines

An aerial search in the Peruvian desert has revealed intriguing figures of humans and animals that predate the nearby Unesco world heritage site

A faded decades-old black-and-white photograph was the only lead Johny Isla had when he set out on the trail of a sea monster.

The Peruvian archaeologist spotted the image at a 2014 exhibition in Germany about the Nazca Lines, the vast and intricate desert images which attract tens of thousands of tourists every year.

The photograph taken in the early 1970s showed a mysterious killer whale deity carved in an arid hillside. The figure bore some resemblance to others he knew but he had never seen this one before.

Isla, now Peru’s chief archaeologist for the lines, spent hours poring through archives, before returning to Peru – armed with a drone and a lifetime of local field experience – to find it.

After several false starts, it took just two weeks to find the 25-by-65-metre image which had been hiding in plain sight in the hills of Palpa, about 30 miles north of Nazca, in a huge expanse of desert in southern Peru.

The design carved into the hillside depicts a terrifying mythological beast, part orca but with a human arm holding a trophy head and several more heads inside its body.

New research with drones has helped uncover hundreds of such figures carved in the desert near the lines in Nazca but which predate them by as much as 1,500 years. The archaeologists leading the effort now believe that the anthropomorphic orca figure fills in a missing link between hundreds of older geoglyphs and the Nazca culture’s desert etchings.

The smaller forms were etched on hillsides in nearby Palpa by the Paracas and Topará cultures between 500BC and AD200.

“This orca was made at a time of abundance and population growth in a moment of change from one society to another,” said Isla.

Isla believe that the Topará crafted the orca figure during a period of dynamic transition. “The Nazca Lines are the culmination of a process of experimentation and improvement in technique which follow on from these older geoglyphs,” said Isla.

Dating from AD200-700, the lines were given Unesco World Heritage status in 1994.

More than a thousand of them – vast geometric patterns, and zoomorphic figures such as the monkey, the hummingbird and the whale – stretch across more than 400 sq km of the Nazca plateau. They were created by removing the top layer of pebbles to reveal the lighter-coloured material beneath.

The newly discovered geoglyphs’ location on hillsides, however, marks a key difference, said Luis Jaime Castillo, a Peruvian archaeologist working on the Nazca-Palpa project with Isla.

“Placing these geoglyphs on the slopes means that, in contrast with the Nazca Lines, you can see them if you are standing in the valley below where life and agriculture is taking place,” he said.

“If the Nazca Lines were made by humans for the gods, these figures were made by humans for humans,” explained Castillo, a former minister of culture for Peru. “They are clearly representations of identifiable people. They are demarcating territories.”

By contrast, the larger and more sophisticated geoglyphs further south in Nazca can not be viewed completely from the ground.

According to Isla, the latest research indicates the Nazca Lines were “made with the purpose of asking the Gods for water and fertility in this desert area”.

But archaeologists are still trying to understand the transition between the Paracas culture’s depiction of largely human figures intended to be viewed by other people to the Nazca iconography in which humans are all but absent.

As the society grew larger the images may have been appropriated by the elite and given a sacred status, Castillo believes. It was a transition from drawings made by households or villages to grand designs made by an organisation closer to a state, he argues.

SOURCE: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/24/nazca-lines-drones-new-discoveries-peru
 
Following on from the item above ...

In the mean time there's a massive campaign to map and document the extensive area geoglyphs using drones. As it turns out the motivation and funding for this big survey project were a response to actions by Greenpeace (and not in a good way).

... On one hillside, a warrior wearing a headdress and carrying a staff or spear stands close to a female figure. Between them is a mythological creature with a mass of tentacles or snakes. The figures are believed to symbolise fertility.

From the ground, the designs are now hard to see. But the drone’s eagle-eye reveals the full design on a monitor viewed by Castillo, who has long promoted aerial mapping techniques to register Peru’s estimated 100,000 archaeological sites, of which only a fraction have been excavated.

Drones are being used not just to find geoglyphs but to “cover kilometres and kilometres and take thousands and thousands of pictures, which are then processed in very large computers”, Castillo said. “The images are so detailed that we can see a stone half an inch across.”

The result of the process, known as photogrammetry, is highly detailed three-dimensional mapping of large areas, which in the case of the Nazca and Palpa Lines is a huge boost for their protection.

The funding to discover these new geoglyphs came, ironically, as a result of an international scandal, when Greenpeace activists left damaging footprints next to the famous hummingbird, during a publicity stunt aimed at the 2014 UN climate change summit in Lima.

Outrage over the incident prompted the US to give Peru a grant which helped fund Isla and his team.

Registering and geo-referencing the geoglyphs is the best way to protect them from the spread of agriculture or urban encroachment, Castillo says. But just a few of the sites will be made known to the public so as not to make them a target for vandalism. Many of the hillsides, cut through by the Pan-American highway, are already covered with modern-day etchings ranging from brands of fertilizer to graffiti tags.

Castillo believes that in the Nazca and Palpa area – already described by Unesco as having the “most outstanding group of geoglyphs anywhere in the world” – new discoveries may yet outnumber older ones.

While the team have discovered hundreds of geoglyphs in Palpa, Castillo expects to find many more. “We’ve registered maybe just 5% of what there is,” he says.

SOURCE: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/24/nazca-lines-drones-new-discoveries-peru
 
A large Palpa hillside geoglyph of a cat / feline figure has recently been discovered and conserved.

PalpaCatGeoglyph.jpg
Giant Cat Geoglyph Found Near the Mysterious Nazca Lines

Experts have found a giant new cat geoglyph in Peru near the world-famous Nazca Lines. They identified the huge figure of the feline on a hill that overlooks the pre-Hispanic designs and features. The find can help experts to better understand the most famous geoglyphs in Latin America, if not the world.

A conservation management team discovered the cat geoglyph on a well-known hill in the coastal desert in southern Peru. It was found in the Nazca-Palpa Archaeological Park, some 200 miles (321.87 km) south of Lima. Johnny Isla, leader of the conservation management system at the park, stated that the image was found during work to improve access to a visitor look-out point, enabling people to view the giant figures that make up the famous and mysterious Nazca Lines. These geoglyphs were made by people of the Palpa and Nazca cultures between 500 BC and 500 AD. ...

During the conservation project, workers found lines that were “definitely not natural,” according to Mr. Isla. Sky News reports that the archaeologists found the huge design of a cat, ‘with the head drawn high up on the hill and looking straight ahead, the body and tail extended further down.’ The cat geoglyph is impressive, it measures 37 meters (121 ft), and the lines of the design are about 10 inches (25.4 cm) wide. ...

The Nazca emerged from this culture and continued the tradition of making geoglyphs. The Peruvian Ministry of Culture website states that “Representations of felines of this type are common in the iconography of ceramics and textiles of the Palpa society.” The discovery of the giant cat geoglyph can help experts to better understand the earlier culture’s contribution to the Nazca Lines, which were only rediscovered in the early 20th century. ...

FULL STORY:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/cat-geoglyph-0014413

See Also:
https://news.sky.com/story/mysterio...ered-in-peru-near-famous-nazca-lines-12106222
 
Yes - I wondered about that myself. To be honest, I first saw the photo of the cat figure before reading the news article that convinced me it was an actual discovery rather than a modern hoax or joke.

As I understand it, workers were conducting maintenance on the pre-existing pathway in front of the hill when they noticed there seemed to be a worn / obscured geoglyph figure right in front of them.
 
It's certainly a different style to the line drawings of the Nazca Lines. It looks like a kids drawing.
 
It's certainly a different style to the line drawings of the Nazca Lines. It looks like a kids drawing.

The Palpa / Paracas culture preceded the Nazca culture, and it's unclear to what extent the later Nazca culture represented a completely distinct tradition versus some sort of descent or evolution from the earlier one.

In addition to their stylistic difference, the Palpa / Paracas geoglyphs were typically constructed on hillsides rather than open / flat ground. It's as if both types were monumental and designed to be prominently visible, but from different vantage points - possibly implying different viewing protocols or purposes.
 
Looks to me like a cat on a photocopier!
 
Yes - I wondered about that myself. To be honest, I first saw the photo of the cat figure before reading the news article that convinced me it was an actual discovery rather than a modern hoax or joke.

As I understand it, workers were conducting maintenance on the pre-existing pathway in front of the hill when they noticed there seemed to be a worn / obscured geoglyph figure right in front of them.

I still think it's fake.
 
In the early days of the FTMB, our enthusiastic British Big Cat poster EvilSprout, proposed that the great white horse images of our ancestors, on hillsides and ancient jewellery etc. were really felines.

He did not get a lot of support, at the time.

The Nazcat seems equally unconvincing. Is it wearing glasses? :rolleyes:
 
Correlations with the following?

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2,000-Year-Old Killer Whale Geoglyph Found in Peru Desert

Source: livescience.com
Date: 28 November, 2017

Archaeologists rediscovered a giant geoglyph of a killer whale, etched into a desert hillside in the remote Palpa region of southern Peru, after it had been lost to science for more than 50 years.

The 230-foot-long (70 meters) figure of an orca — considered a powerful, semimythical creature in ancient Peruvian lore — may be more than 2,000 years old, according to the researchers.

They said it may be one the oldest geoglyphs in the Palpa region, and older than those in the nearby Nazca region, which is famous for its vast collection of ancient ground markings — the Nazca Lines — that include animal figures, straight lines and geometrical shapes.

https://www.livescience.com/61035-ancient-killer-whale-geoglyph-peru.html
 
Just checked - Simon Bond died in 2011, so it's not one of his.
 
Another, this one of a giant cat, albeit somewhat comical looking:

perucat.jpg


Vast cat etched 2,000 years ago discovered in the Peruvian desert
Maintenance work at an archaeological site in Peru has uncovered a huge image of a lounging cat, drawn on a hillside more than 2000 years ago.
Experts say the etching, in the desert between the towns of Nazca and Palpa, can be dated to between 500 and 100BC.

It is the latest discovery in an area known as the Nazca Lines, a series of man-made patterns, which came to global attention in the 1920s. How the designs were carved, and their purpose, has fascinated archaeologists for much of the past 100 year.

The ancient cat etching, known as a geoglyph, is 37m long. It has distinctive pointy ears, big eyes and a long striped tail.

“It’s quite striking that we’re still finding new figures, but we also know that there are more to be found,” Johny Isla, the chief archaeologist for the Nazca Lines, told the EFE news agency.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/wo...t/news-story/19265d27a42ded94c09df8158da71958
 
The head looks like a cat but although it can't be - wrong continent, the body is more something like a kangaroo - small front legs, large back legs, large tail.
 
The head looks like a cat but although it can't be - wrong continent, the body is more something like a kangaroo - small front legs, large back legs, large tail.

In terms of style this figure is considerably more 'sketchy' and 'free form' than the other Palpa / Paracas geoglyphs. All the other hillside figures I've seen are more elaborate, more detailed, and comprised of closed lines and borders.

This figure was made using the same technique as the later Nazca Lines - i.e., sweeping away the overlaying rocks / pebbles to expose the lighter colored soil beneath. It was allegedly discovered as faint patterns, suggesting the stones had shifted or slid down the slope to obscure the original 'sweeping' over the centuries.

I'm wondering whether this reconstruction contains mistakes or omits lines too faint to have been detected / recognized. I can't help but think it looks 'wrong' compared to all the earlier and later ones.
 
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It's a cat on a photocopier - you can see the bottom of its feet!
 
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