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Another Aircraft Missing in SE Asia: QZ8501

I think what we are getting at the moment is a lot of misreporting. I did start to wonder when we got reports of a body wearing a life jacket ( why wouldn't all of them ) and bodies holding hands. I personally don't think that it floated on the water. The radar data seems to indicate they went into a steep climb, one that was possibly beyond the planes capabilities. If this was the case it would then have stalled and literally plummeted to earth, especially if there were stormy condition. No controlled landing on water, no floating.
 
That could account for the plane seemingly being upside down at the bottom, the thing that makes me wonder is the media have given the impression the fuselage is in one piece. An uncontrolled dive from over 30k hight would surely have broken the plane into pieces on impact? That's what made me think it floated for a while. Prehaps it is in bits at the bottom, I guess time (and the black boxes) will provide the answers.
it's certainly not done my fear of air travel any good, I hate flying :(
 
AirAsia QZ8501: More bad weather hits AirAsia search

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Divers are being limited by the weather conditions

A short-lived break in the weather has failed to make an impact on the search for wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501, which crashed en route from Indonesia to Singapore four days ago.
Skies brightened over the search area but the bad weather which has slowed salvage efforts returned within hours.
Ships and planes are scouring the Java Sea off Borneo, where the plane, carrying 162 people, came down.
Only seven bodies have been recovered as bad weather hampered the search.
A vigil has been held in the Indonesian city of Surabaya for the victims, with people observing a minute's silence.

Rough seas have stopped divers from investigating the scene of the crash.
Naval officer Siahala Alamsyah said that bad weather and high seas on Wednesday night prevented a team of about 50 Indonesian navy divers from flying out to warships at the scene of the disaster.

On Thursday morning the skies over Pangkalan Bun air base brightened and the seas calmed, increasing hopes.
But within a few hours, the weather had worsened again.
"Clouds have started to descend again... and the weather conditions will deteriorate again," said search and rescue official Tatang Zaenudin.

Search teams are hoping to locate the fuselage of the plane on the seabed and find the plane's black box recorders, which could provide clues about the cause of the crash.
"It's possible the bodies are in the fuselage," said search and rescue co-ordinator Sunarbowo Sand from his base in Pangkalan Bun on Borneo island - the closest town to the targeted area.
"It's a race now against time and weather."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30647375
 
AirAsia QZ8501: Two more bodies recovered

Two more bodies have been recovered from the Java Sea as search operations continue for the remains of AirAsia Flight QZ8501, officials say.
The bodies, flown to an airbase in Borneo, bring to nine the total recovered. The funeral of one victim, a flight attendant, has been held.
However, bad weather has continued to hamper the search for wreckage.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30647375
 
I know this sounds ghoulish but, the weather, unfortunately, will continue to hamper the recovery efforts for maybe another six,to eight weeks up there. The usual is a dry but steamy morning, clouds start rolling in by eleven, then it dumps down through the afternoon. The daily occurence is interspersed with big blows, along with the usual christmas tides of thirty feet. Fantastic lightening displays though.


I do wish the recovery teams well though.
 
2 January 2015 Last updated at 06:46
AirAsia QZ8501 underwater search to begin

The search for AirAsia flight QZ8510 which crashed into the sea on Sunday is set to move underwater, with the arrival of specialist equipment.
A French crash investigation team will use sensitive acoustic detection devices to try locate the plane's "black box" flight recorder.
The Airbus A320-200 was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore with 162 people on board when it vanished.
No survivors have been found and the cause of the crash remains unknown.

Several more bodies were located on Friday, bringing the total found to 16.
One person has been identified as passenger Hayati Lutfiah Hamid - her funeral was held in Surabaya on Thursday.

The plane is almost certainly at the bottom of the relatively shallow Java Sea.
Several pieces of debris have been recovered, including what is thought to be part of a wing flap.
But despite a massive five-day search the fuselage is still missing. Officials say most of the passengers could still be inside.

The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes in Pangkalan Bun on the Borneo coast - the nearest town to the suspected crash site - said there is a growing sense among search teams that their task is going to be harder than initially thought.
Bad weather and churning seas have dashed hopes of finding the plane visually, he says, and teams will now be relying on the sonar and listening equipment to scan the sea floor.
Locating the fuselage and the flight recorder will help answer the mystery of what happened to make the plane fall from the sky.

The head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency, Bambang Soelistyo, said on Friday that wreckage and bodies are spread over a 5km area of the Java Sea.
The search was now focussing on an area of 1,575 nautical square miles of the Java Sea off Borneo, he told reporters.
"Divers are already on standby at the navy ship Banda Aceh to dive on that priority area to locate the body of the plane," he said. "I hope we'll get a significant result today."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30654163
 
3 January 2015 Last updated at 05:21
AirAsia QZ8501: Search teams 'find two large objects'

Search teams scouring the Java Sea for the wreckage of AirAsia flight QZ8501 have found "two large objects", Indonesian officials say.
Search and rescue agency chief Bambang Soelistyo said a remotely operated underwater vehicle was being lowered to take pictures.
However, bad weather and heavy seas continue to hamper operations.

The jet disappeared with 162 people on board while flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore last Sunday.
So far 30 bodies have been recovered in the search. No survivors have been found and the main sections of the Airbus A320 have not been retrieved.
Most bodies are thought to have been trapped in the plane's fuselage.

Mr Soelistyo said on Saturday that the large objects had been detected by sonar from an Indonesian navy ship.
"We found oil slicks and huge objects at 23:40 (16:40 GMT) last night. I am confident these are parts of the missing AirAsia plane that we are looking for," he said.
He said the larger of the objects was 10 metres by five (32ft by 16ft) but that strong currents made operating the underwater vehicle difficult.
"As I speak we are lowering an ROV (remotely operated underwater vehicle) to get an actual picture of the objects detected on the sea floor. All are at the depth of 30 metres."

The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports from the forward operating base in Pangkalan Bun that it seems this could be the breakthrough search teams have been hoping for.
A flotilla of ships, including two from the US navy, are converging on the site where the objects were located and preparing to put divers into the water.
The cause of the crash is not yet known. Specialist equipment has arrived to the search for the plane's "black box" flight recorders, though officials say no signals have been picked up yet.

In another development, it has emerged that AirAsia did not have official permission to fly the Surabaya-Singapore route on Sunday - the day of the crash - but was licensed on four other days of the week.
The Indonesian authorities are suspending the company's flights on this route with immediate effect pending an investigation, a transport ministry statement said.

Officials have said the plane was travelling at 32,000ft when it requested to climb to 38,000ft to avoid bad weather.
Some investigators are reported to believe that the plane may have gone into an aerodynamic stall as the pilot climbed steeply.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30664604
 
3 January 2015 Last updated at 17:09
AirAsia QZ8501: Plane crash blamed on weather

Bad weather was the biggest factor in the crash of AirAsia flight QZ8501, the Indonesian weather agency believes.
The BMKG agency said initial analysis suggested icy conditions in the air had caused the engine to stall.

The Airbus A320 vanished with 162 people aboard en route from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore last Sunday.
The discovery of four large objects believed to be plane debris has raised hopes of finding the fuselage, where most bodies are believed to be trapped.
Just 30 bodies had been recovered from the Java Sea as of Saturday morning.
The plane's black boxes, its flight data and cockpit voice recorders, have yet to be located.

BMKG found conditions at the time of the plane's disappearance suggested it had probably flown into a storm.
"From our data it looks like the last location of the plane had very bad weather and it was the biggest factor behind the crash," said Edvin Aldrian, head of research at BMKG.
"These icy conditions can stall the engines of the plane and freeze and damage the planes machinery."
Officials have said the plane was travelling at 32,000ft when the pilot's last communication was a request to climb to 38,000ft to avoid bad weather.

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The mother of victim Hendra Gunawan Syawal prayed by her son's coffin in Surabaya

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The search teams have recovered 30 bodies from the Java Sea despite tough weather conditions

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Victims in body bags were hoisted aboard a warship

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Russian search teams arrived aboard a Beriev Be-200 amphibious aircraft

Search chief Bambang Soelistyo said four large objects as well as oil slicks had been detected by sonar.
The biggest object is 18m (59ft) long and 5.4m wide, he was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency, adding he believed the objects were parts of the plane. Another object is said to be 10m long.
Mr Soelistyo said an ROV (remotely operated underwater vehicle) was being lowered into the water to get an actual picture of the objects, which were at a depth of 30m.
But he warned that waves up to five metres high were hampering the search effort.

John Noble, a marine salvage consultant, told the BBC the fact the wreckage was 30m down would help search teams.
"It is very dive-able," he told the News Channel. "It is easy to get equipment down there."

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A flotilla of ships, including two from the US navy, are converging on the site where the objects were located and preparing to put divers into the water.

A Russian search team, including 22 deep water divers and a remotely operated submersible vessel, is expected to join the hunt for the black boxes after arriving in Pangkalan Bun on Saturday.

It has emerged that AirAsia did not have official permission to fly the Surabaya-Singapore route on the day of the crash but was licensed on four other days of the week.
The Indonesian authorities suspended the company's flights on this route pending an investigation. AirAsia said it would "fully co-operate".
There were 137 adult passengers, 17 children and one infant, along with two pilots and five crew, on the plane - the majority Indonesian.
Four people have been identified so far: Hayati Lutfiah Hamid, Grayson Herbert Linaksita, Kevin Alexander Soetjipto and Khairunisa Haidar Fauzi.
AirAsia previously had an excellent safety record, with no fatal accidents involving its aircraft.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30665499
 
4 January 2015 Last updated at 09:03
AirAsia QZ8501: Plane search enters second week

The search for the main wreckage of AirAsia QZ8501 in the Java Sea has entered a second week, with poor weather still hampering operations.
Divers had hoped for better conditions but faced continued suspensions.

A fifth large object, thought to be debris from the plane, has been located under the sea. Another body has also been found, bringing the total to 31.

Flight QZ8501 crashed en route from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore last Sunday with 162 people aboard.
Bad weather is believed to be the biggest factor in the crash.
The Airbus A320's "black boxes", or flight data recorders, have yet to be located.
Most of the victims' bodies are thought to be trapped in the plane's fuselage

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On Sunday, search and rescue agency chief Bambang Soelistyo said a fifth object, measuring 9.8m by 1.1m, had been located on the seabed.
He said that two divers who reached the site had to turn back almost straight away because of the bad conditions.

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Some debris has been retrieved, including what appears to be a window panel from the aircraft

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30670378
 
5 January 2015 Last updated at 07:55
AirAsia QZ8501: Search efforts to find flight data recorders resume
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On Sunday divers found "zero visibility" as they went down to investigate debris

The search mission to find the flight data recorders from the crashed AirAsia passenger plane has resumed, as weather conditions improve over the Java Sea.
Flight QZ8501 was flying from Surabaya, Indonesia to Singapore on 28 December when it disappeared from radar.
Search teams have recovered 37 bodies but the remains of most victims are thought to still be in the plane.

Bad weather has hampered attempts to reach large objects thought to be the body of the plane.
Officials told the BBC's Indonesian service on Monday that sonar equipment had been deployed underwater, but that the weather meant no divers were yet back in the water.
The head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency, Bambang Soelistoyo, said in a news briefing that three more bodies were recovered on Monday.
He added that weather conditions had improved since last week, but that the currents underwater were still strong.

Dozens of ships and aircraft are involved in the operation.
The families of the passengers have been offered a chance to fly to the location believed to be the crash site and lay flower wreaths, the commander of the Armed Forces, Gen Moeldoko, said in Surabaya.
They would fly to Pangkalan Bun, the nearest town, then be taken by a naval ship to the location in the Java Sea. He said he believed this might help "reduce their sadness and the feeling of loss"
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Gen Moeldoko also assured the families that all the victims would be identified regardless of their condition when found.
He said 260 national and international doctors were working to identify the remains recovered using finger prints, dental records and bone DNA.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30677629
 
Search for AirAsia QZ8501: Indonesia navy 'finds tail section of missing plane'
Unconfirmed discovery of section containing black box and flight data recorders comes amid calmer weather improving diving conditions, as search area widens and three further bodies located
By Jonathan Pearlman, Jakarta
1:04PM GMT 05 Jan 2015

Indonesia’s navy has found an object that is “probably” the tail of the crashed AirAsia flight, raising hopes that the remaining bodies of the 162 passengers and the plane’s black box will soon be recovered.
As search authorities in the Java Sea found three further bodies strapped to their seats, Colonel Yayan Sofyan, a patrol boat captain, said the navy had found a section of the aircraft that resembled the tail.
“We found what has a high probability of being the tail of the plane,” he said.

Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, the head of Indonesia’s search and rescue agency, said the object was “suspected” of being the tail but was yet to be confirmed.
“I am not saying it’s the tail yet,” he said. “That is suspected. Now we are trying to confirm it.”

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...navy-finds-tail-section-of-missing-plane.html
 
7 January 2015 Last updated at 07:34



AirAsia QZ8501: Tail of crashed plane found

The tail of crashed AirAsia flight QZ8501 has been found in the Java Sea, Indonesian searchers say.
The tail houses the "black boxes" - the voice and flight data recorders - which could give investigators clues as to the cause of the crash.
It was found in a secondary search area, lending weight to theories that strong currents have moved the debris.

The plane was lost en route from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore on 28 December, with 162 people aboard.
No survivors have been found.

"We have found the tail that has been our main target today," search and rescue chief Bambang Soelistyo told reporters in the capital, Jakarta.
"I can ensure that this is part of the tail with the AirAsia mark on it."
The tail of the Airbus A320-200 was spotted by teams involving divers and unmanned underwater vehicles, he said. It is the first significant piece of wreckage from the crash to be identified.
He added that despite powerful sea currents and murky water, searchers had managed to take photographs of what appeared to be debris underwater.
On one piece, the letter A appears to be painted.

Only 40 bodies have been recovered so far but the authorities believe many of the passengers may still be strapped inside the main body of the plane.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30706298
 
9 January 2015 Last updated at 05:09



AirAsia QZ8501: 'Pings' detected in plane search

"Pings" have been detected in the Java Sea which could have come from the "black box" flight recorders of AirAsia flight QZ8501, officials say.
The commander of the Indonesian armed forces, Gen Moeldoko, told the BBC divers had been sent to investigate.
The pings were heard near where the plane's tail was found. Officials say the black box could have been separated from the rear part of the plane.

QZ8501 disappeared from radar on 28 December with 162 people on board.
No survivors have been found from the Airbus A320-200, which was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore.

"We received an update from the field that the pinger locator already detected pings," said Santoso Sayogo, an investigator at the National Transportation Safety Committee.
"We have our fingers crossed it is the black box. Divers need to confirm. Unfortunately it seems it's off from the tail. But the divers need to confirm the position."

The "black box" flight data recorders are usually housed inside the rear part of the plane. They are designed to survive a crash and being submerged in water, and contain underwater locator beacons which emit the so-called "pings" for at least 30 days.
Finding them has been one of the top priorities for search teams as they provide crucial clues from the last moments of the flight before it came down.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30738613
 
10 January 2015 Last updated at 06:45
AirAsia QZ8501: Plane tail lifted from seabed

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Divers used an inflatable device to pull the tail to the sea's surface

The Indonesian navy has retrieved from the seabed the tail of the AirAsia plane that crashed two weeks ago.
Divers used an inflatable device to pull the tail to the sea's surface.
They are also searching for the plane's "black box" flight recorders, which officials believe have been separated from the tail section.

QZ8501 disappeared from radar in bad weather on 28 December with 162 people on board. It was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore.
Forty-eight bodies have been retrieved so far. Search teams believe most of the remains may still be inside the fuselage of the plane, which has yet to be found.

On Friday, pings were detected in the Java Sea near where the tail was found. Officials said they could have come from the plane's "black box" flight recorders.

The rear part of the Airbus A320-200 was spotted on Wednesday by an unmanned underwater vehicle at a depth of about 30m (100ft).
It was upside down and partially buried about 30km (20 miles) from the point of last contact with the plane, off the coast of Borneo, authorities said.

Search teams have been pulling bodies and wreckage from the sea but progress has been slow due to high waves and stormy weather.

The cause of the crash is unknown but the plane had encountered bad weather and asked for a flight path change before communication was lost.
The "black box" flight data recorders are usually housed inside the rear part of the plane.
They are designed to survive a crash and being submerged in water, and contain underwater locator beacons which emit the so-called "pings" for at least 30 days.
Finding them has been one of the top priorities for search teams as they provide crucial clues from the last moments of the flight before it came down.

etc...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30759166
 
12 January 2015 Last updated at 07:20
AirAsia QZ8501: Divers recover 'black box' flight recorder
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The tail section of the plane was recovered over the weekend but did not have the flight recorders in it

Indonesian divers have retrieved the flight data recorder of crashed AirAsia Flight QZ8501, say officials.
They believe they have also located the cockpit voice recorder, the second part of the so-called black box, but divers have not yet managed to reach it.

AirAsia flight QZ8501 disappeared in bad weather on 28 December with 162 people on board.
The aircraft, which was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore, is thought to be deep in the Java Sea.
Dozens of bodies have been recovered but most of the victims are believed to still be inside the fuselage, which has not been found.

Analysis: Karishma Vaswani, Jakarta
It is an extremely significant development that Indonesia has found the flight data recorder, aviation analysts say. The devices are able to give an exact timeline of what happened on the plane, until the moment it plunged into the Java Sea.
Information such as the condition of the engine, what the pilots were doing, whether the plane had stalled and its altitude will all be revealed from the tonnes of data that is on the flight data recorder.
It is a total forensic timeline of everything that happened and is of immense importance to understanding what caused the crash.

Indonesia has said publicly that it will handle the analysis of the flight data and cockpit voice recorders here - but it is likely that international teams will also be involved. The unfortunate silver lining of having had so many air disasters over the last decade has meant that Indonesian teams are very well equipped to analyse the data recorders and piece together what happened. Aviation analysts expect a preliminary report within a month, and a more detailed report within a year.
Indonesian officials have been under intense pressure to find the cause of the crash. This discovery should provide some clues - and give families of those on board some semblance of closure.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30773782
 
13 January 2015 Last updated at 06:38
AirAsia cockpit voice recorder found - Indonesian officials

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The flight data recorder - part one of the plane's "black box" - was recovered on Monday

Divers in the Java Sea have retrieved the cockpit voice recorder from the crashed AirAsia flight QZ8501, say officials.
The retrieval comes a day after the first piece of the so-called black box, the flight data recorder, was also found and brought to shore.
The aircraft with 162 people on board disappeared between Surabaya in Indonesia and Singapore on 28 December.
The two devices will help investigators understand more about what went wrong.

Forty-eight bodies have been recovered so far, but most of the victims are believed to still be inside the fuselage.
SB Supriadi from Indonesia's search and rescue agency told the BBC's Indonesian service the fuselage had been located by divers about 1.5km (0.9 miles) from where the tail section was found last week.
He said there were no plans yet to go down and retrieve it.

The voice recorder was freed from underneath heavy wreckage of a wing from a depth of about 30 metres (98 feet) early on Tuesday, said Tonny Budiono, sea navigation director at the Transportation Ministry.
"This is good news for investigators to reveal the cause of the plane crash," he said.

Santoso Sayogo, from the National Transportation Safety Committee, also confirmed the find to Reuters.
An unnamed official involved in the search told reporters the device was now on board Indonesia's Banda Aceh warship, in the Java Sea.

The BBC's Karishma Vaswani said the device - which records all conversations between the pilots - was being taken to Jakarta, where it will be analysed by aviation experts.
The flight data recorder - holding information about the speed at which the plane was travelling, its altitude and other technical information - is already in the capital.

Flight recorders are designed to survive a crash and being submerged in water. They contain underwater locator beacons which emit so-called "pings" for at least 30 days.
These pings were detected by search vessels at the weekend but divers were prevented from going down to find them by strong currents and high waves.

The AirAsia plane was 42 minutes into its short flight to Singapore when it vanished from radar.
The cause of the crash is not yet known, but bad weather is thought to have been a factor. The pilot's last communication was a request for permission to change course to avoid a storm.
But it has also emerged that AirAsia may not have had clearance to fly the Surabaya-Singapore route on the day in question. Its licence for the route has now been suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30791524
 
A military vessel on Wednesday located the fuselage of the AirAsia passenger jet that crashed more than two weeks ago off the coast of Indonesia, raising hopes that more bodies will be found.

The fuselage, the part of the plane that holds pilots and passengers, was discovered around 3 kilometers from where the tail of the aircraft was retrieved last weekend at the bottom of the Java Sea, Indonesian officials said. ...

Full story at: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/14/us-indonesia-airplane-idUSKBN0KN0BI20150114
 
25 January 2015 Last updated at 10:09
AirAsia QZ8501: Fresh bid to raise fuselage fails
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Retrieval of bodies from the AirAsia crash has been continuing

The Indonesian admiral in charge of operations to recover AirAsia flight QZ8501 has told the BBC the fuselage may be too fragile to be lifted.
Rear Admiral Widodo's comments came after a renewed attempt to raise the wreckage from seabed failed when it kept breaking into pieces.
Ropes around the fuselage snapped during an initial failed effort to raise it on Saturday.

The plane crashed into the Java Sea last month killing all 162 on board.
It was flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore.
Four bodies were recovered on Saturday, taking the total recovered to 69, with more thought to be inside.
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A preliminary report on the crash is expected to be filed next week , although the full investigation will take months.

Rescuers have been using inflatable balloon bags capable of lifting up to 10 tonnes to raise the 13-metre long section of wreckage from the sea bed and onto a flat boat.
But on Saturday, with the wreckage seven metres (22ft) from the surface, strong currents and the sharp edges of the aircraft's emergency door cut the rope connecting a bag to the fuselage.
The sharp edges had to be padded with rubber material before another attempt could take place.

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Giant lifting balloon bags are used to help raise the fuselage

Divers entered the main section of the fuselage, which is at a depth of 30m, for the first time on Friday.
The wreckage includes parts of both of the wings of the Airbus.
It is believed the plane's cockpit may also be in the same area.

Poor weather and difficult sea conditions have hampered the salvage operation since the main section of the aircraft was found.
On Friday, Indonesian rescue agency official SB Supriyadi described the difficulties of the salvage: "The divers said it was dark inside, the seats where floating about and the wires were like a tangled yarn."
The plane's cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were found last week.

This week Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan told MPs that radar data had shown that the jet had climbed too fast - at a speed of 6,000ft (1,828m) a minute.
This caused the plane to stall, he said. When planes stall, their engines do not cut out but the wings no longer generate lift because there is not enough air passing over them, BBC transport correspondent Richard Westcott says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30972235
 
AirAsia flight QZ8501: Captain's behaviour 'very unusual' prior to crash, investigators learn

Emma Finamore

Sunday 01 February 2015


The captain of the AirAsia jet that crashed into the sea off Indonesia in December was out of his seat conducting an unusual procedure when his co-pilot apparently lost control.


By the time he returned it was too late to save the plane, two people close to the investigation told news agency Reuters.

They said that investigators were examining the Flight Augmentation Computer (FAC) recovered from the Airbus A320, and that the captain had taken the “very unusual” step of disabling the system.

http://forum.forteantimes.com/index...g-in-se-asia-qz8501.58377/page-4#post-1481255
 
Interesting: explains a lot whilst being even more puzzling.

Sounds like the various lines of investigation are gradually converging on at least an overview of the fatal chain of events.
 
Update for closure ...

The eventual conclusion was that pilots had been given a rudder travel limit warning (resulting from an electrical fault) multiple times in the past on this aircraft. During the fatal flight this warning was activated 4 times. The first 3 times the crew restarted / reset the flight computer in accordance with instructions and protocols When it happened a fourth time, someone toggled a circuit breaker (a non-recommended action). This took all the flight computer units offline, leaving the crew to deal with a stall situation on a strictly manual basis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_AirAsia_Flight_8501
 
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