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Is The Moon An Artificial Structure? Claims & Theories

Sorry, but my post is unlikely to contribute anything positive to this thread. o_O

The OP link is full of errors, misinterpretations, misunderstandings and possibly deliberate mis/disinformation.

If the moon changed size, bounced around or moved, such observations would be noted globally.

But really, this sort of c**p keeps appearing on at least two other forums. One forum eventually stopped the nonsense to keep some semblance of respectability, another let it run and run and run.

It appears that the killer proof that the moon is real is that it reflects radio signals transmitted by many hobby scientists with appropriate equipment. You can't fake that.

Don't take my word for it, just look up moon bounce or EME communications. All the technical parameters of the reflected signals correspond to what the moon is believed to be; i.e. a large solid object about 250,000 miles away in orbit around the earth.

End of story - but probably not...

BBrain
 
Yes, we've bounced radar, laser and radio signals off it. We've been there, and brought bits of it back.

We've observed the Earth's shadow blocking out the moon's light at Lunar Eclipses. We observe the moon occulting stars and planets as it moves along its orbit, and then see these stars and planets reappear after the moon has passed by.

The shadows on its surface change as the Sun's angle to the Moon changes, in predictable and repeatable ways.

Orbiters have measured the minute variations in its gravitational field that enable us to detect mascons (mass concentrations) below the surface, and recently similar techniques have resulted in the discovery of a buried crater which has been named after Amelia Earhart.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31917302

The simplest explanation for all these facts is that the Moon is a real orbiting astronomical body. Anyone who claims otherwise is obviously a loonie!
 
The OP link is full of errors, misinterpretations, misunderstandings and possibly deliberate mis/disinformation.
You do realise that Black Bag is merely reporting the idiocies of some conspiracy theories and is in no way validating them?

Please read for comprehension.
 
I know the russians sent up animals that orbited the earth. Did any orbit the moon?
 
How can he/she be a loonie if they don't believe the moon is real?

Good point. Can we replace with 'nutter'?
 
Good point. Can we replace with 'nutter'?
The word 'lunatic' originally described people who apparently went mad at the time of the full moon. It seems quite appropriate for us to apply it now to those with mad ideas about the moon. ;)
 
Only humans have orbited the moon.

BBrain
Hmmm. There have been rumours that the Russians sent up a few missions without telling anybody. It's entirely conceivable that there is a crashed spaceship on the other side of the moon with a dead dog inside it.
 
How can he/she be a loonie if they don't believe the moon is real?
They are loony from the point of view of those of us who believe the Moon is real, because they have mad ideas.

No doubt if you asked them if they were loony they'd say no!
 
Tidal forces.
 
Hmmm. There have been rumours that the Russians sent up a few missions without telling anybody. It's entirely conceivable that there is a crashed spaceship on the other side of the moon with a dead dog inside it.

...or a dead goldfish maybe? :D
 
The Sunday Sport newspaper did plenty of articles about the moon. They even had photographs of a Double Decker bus and a Lancaster bomber that had mysteriously found there way to the Luna surface. At the end of the day, I blame NASA. Russia sent up animals whilst NASA sent up various methods of transport. Why? Well its all top secret so I cant tell you....erm...
 
If the moon doesn't exist then all I can say is - look at the special effects in movies, all the CGI.
 
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...here is an utterly extraordinary claim. More than infinitely so. But very interesting....


http://www.whobuiltthemoon.com

https://contraeducacao.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/who-built-the-moon_-knight-christopher.pdf
For someone who places such stress on the importance of maths, Christopher Knight ought to get his terminology right.

"However, if we round it off at the fourth decimal point we could say that π is 3.1416."

This should be "..round it off at the fourth decimal place..."

So, in conformity with Ermintrude's attitude, I choose to be highly sceptical about such loony theories! :p

Life's too short to waste on nonsense like this.
 
For someone who places such stress on the importance of maths, Christopher Knight ought to get his terminology right.
Presumably you're familiar with Knight's work, with Lomas, on the fascinating "Urial's Machine" concept? Whilst being highly-resistant to any pseudoarcheology, I find it very interesting, as I do his expansions upon the pendulum-based 'megalithic yard'

So, in conformity with Ermintrude's attitude, I choose to be highly sceptical about such loony theories! :p
In fairness, I am largely-skeptical about most theory, and only marginally-less sceptical regarding much of what is commonly-accepted fact.

Life's too short to waste on nonsense like this.
We must of course make our own decisions about what paths to follow down the maze towards enlightenment.

Speaking as a mere microbe in the macrocosm, I close no doors nor totally-ignore any possibility. A child at the knee of a beloved grandfather can sometimes have the insight of lifetimes, not through any gnostic revelation, but by joining dots that are not even in the same room, let-alone upon the same page.

Were it not so, I would not be here (perhaps in too many senses)
 
Here's the text of the New Dawn Christopher Knight interview cited earlier.

Who Built the Moon? An Interview With Christopher Knight
May 21, 2006 By davidjones
Many New Dawn readers will know of British writer Christopher Knight from his first book The Hiram Key, which he co-authored with Robert Lomas and published in 1996.

Quickly becoming a best seller, The Hiram Key was acclaimed a classic in the field of alternative history, going on to influence a generation of researchers among them The Da Vinci Code’s Dan Brown.

In the last ten years Knight has written six books, four with Robert Lomas and two, including his latest Who Built the Moon?, with Alan Butler. In Who Built the Moon?, Knight and Butler raise some fascinating and challenging questions, foremost: Could it be that the Moon is artificial? Could it even be hollow? And does the Moon really exist through some happy accident, or is a blueprint apparent – and if so, who was the architect? New Dawn recently spoke with Christopher Knight about his controversial new book and his astonishing conclusions.
– New Dawn
NEW DAWN: All of mankind’s visits to the Moon have not answered some of the most basic questions about its origin and importance. Your new book Who Built the Moon? (co-authored with Alan Butler) brings to light some extraordinary facts about the Moon, and comes to a mind-blowing conclusion about its origin. Could you briefly outline some of these little known and ignored facts?

CHRISTOPHER KNIGHT: The Moon sits very close to the Earth yet it is widely regarded as the strangest object in the known universe. It is a bit like knowing that every person in the world is completely normal except the person you live next door to, who has three heads and lives on a diet of broken razor blades.

The book lists the strangeness of the Moon, which includes the fact that it does not have a solid core like every other planetary object. It is either hollow or has a very low-density interior. Bizarrely, its concentration of mass are located at a series of points just under its surface – which caused havoc with early lunar spacecraft. The material the Moon is made from came from the outer surface of the Earth and left a shallow hole that filled with water and we now call the Pacific. This rock left the Earth to produce the Moon very quickly after our planet had formed around 4,6 billion years ago.

The Moon is not only extremely odd in its construction; it also behaves in a way that is nothing less than miraculous. It is exactly four hundred times smaller than the Sun but four hundred times closer to the Earth so that both the Sun and the Moon appear to be precisely the same size in the sky – which gives us the phenomenon we call a total eclipse. Whilst we take this for granted it has been called the biggest coincidence in the universe.

Furthermore, the Moon mirrors the movement of the Sun in the sky by rising and setting at the same point on the horizon as the Sun does at opposite solstices. For example, this means the Moon rises at midwinter at the same place the Sun does at midsummer. There is no logical reason why the Moon mimics the Sun in this way and it is only meaningful to a human standing on the Earth.

ND: What led you to write Who Built the Moon? And does this latest book relate to your earlier research when writing Civilization One and Uriel’s Machine?

CK: All of the six books I have had published over the last ten years are part of a continued single piece of research. I came to write Who Built the Moon?with Alan Butler after we had finished Civilization One, because our research led us to study the Moon very closely.

We had found that the superbly advanced measuring system in use over 5,000 years ago was based on the mass, dimensions and movements of the Earth.

However, for thoroughness we checked every planet and moon in the solar system to see if there was any pattern. Amazingly, it worked perfectly for every aspect of the Moon but did not apply at all to any other known body – except the Sun.

It was as though we had found a blueprint where the Moon had been ‘manufactured’ using very specific units taken from Earth’s relationship with the Sun. The more we looked, everything fitted – and fitted perfectly in every conceivable way.

ND: Most astoundingly, you found that an ancient system of geometry and measurement used in the Stone Age works perfectly on the Moon. What exactly is this system and how could the ancients have attained this knowledge?
CK: It is not possible to describe the greatness of this ancient system of geometry and measurement without repeating the content of Civilization One.

The work of Alexander Thom, a brilliant professor of engineering from Oxford University, was our starting point. He identified the existence of what he called the Megalithic Yard. This was a precise unit of measurement that was the basis of late Stone Age structures across Western Europe – such as Stonehenge. Most archaeologists have written his work off as a mistake but when one looks coldly at their objections they are baseless.
Alan and I were able to show how they made these highly precise linear units based on the rotation of the Earth and how they were also the basis of all time, capacity and weight units in use today. Once again these are exact – not approximations or close fits.

Where the ancients got such knowledge is quite baffling. All we can be certain of is that they were way ahead of us today! It’s easy to check out by anyone with a calculator.

ND: Your conclusion is there are more than enough anomalies about the Moon to suggest it is not a naturally occurring body and was quite possibly engineered to sustain life on Earth. How did you reach this conclusion?
CK: Not only is the Moon an apparently impossible object, it has some unique benefits for us humans. It has been nothing less than an incubator for life. If the Moon was not exactly the size, mass and distance that it has been at each stage of the Earth’s evolution – there would be no intelligent life here. Scientists are agreed that we owe everything to the Moon.

It acts as a stabiliser that holds our planet at just the right angle to produce the seasons and keep water liquid across most of the planet. Without our Moon the Earth would be as dead and solid as Venus.

ND: If the Moon is an artificial construct, what are your theories on who or what built it, and why?

CK: In Who Built the Moon? we explain that we could not come to any other conclusion than the Moon is artificial. Because it is certain that it is 4.6 billion years old that raises some interesting points. Another factor was the obvious message that has been built into the Moon to tell us it’s artificial. The language of the message is base ten arithmetic so it looks as though it is directed to a ten digit species that is living on Earth right now – which seems to mean humans.

The question of why the Moon had to be built is easy to answer: To produce all life, especially humans. As to who did it – well that’s a lot tougher! We give the three possibilities we can think of, namely: God, aliens or humans. The only one of these that is 100% scientifically possible is the last one. Time travel is universally accepted as being physically possible and a number of scientists are close to sending matter back in time. We can envisage that machines could be built in the future that could be sent back to remove matter from the young Earth to construct the Moon – probably using mini black hole technology.

SALVAGED FROM: https://web.archive.org/web/2017050...the-moon-an-interview-with-christopher-knight
 
The UFOs gave a welcome party for Aldrin and Armstrong, so I am sure there will be a big welcome party for the next group.

The U.S. History Channel has had episodes of alien outposts anomalies on the moon.

The moon is just a big hollow satellite that rings like a bell.
 
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The UFOs gave a welcome party for Aldrin and Armstrong, so I am sure there will be a big welcome party for the next group.

The U.S. History Channel has had episodes of alien outposts anomalies on the moon.

The moon is just a big hollow satellite that rings like a bell.
It's entirely possible that it's artificial, yes.
 
It's entirely possible that it's artificial, yes.

No it's really not. From NASA:


Artist concept of the lunar core



There's a discussion with planetary scientist Dr Renee Weber about the moon covering many topics here.
 
Massive moon metal anomaly beneath in the South Pole-Aitken basin.

NASA GRAIL mission with moon topography found metal 5 times as big as the Big Island of Hawaii buried in the moon

making another moon mystery.

Where did that come from ?
 
Massive moon metal anomaly beneath in the South Pole-Aitken basin.
NASA GRAIL mission with moon topography found metal 5 times as big as the Big Island of Hawaii buried in the moon
making another moon mystery.
Where did that come from ?

In general, 2020 results from the LRO indicate there's more metal within the moon than originally believed.

There's more metal on the moon than we thought
https://www.space.com/moon-metal-mystery-clue-in-craters.html

As to the specific gravitational anomaly at the South Pole region ... The leading hypothesis is that it represents the remains of a metallic asteroid that crashed into the coalescing moon mass eons ago.

Weird 'Anomaly' at the Moon's South Pole May Be a Metal Asteroid's Grave
https://www.space.com/moon-south-pole-anomaly-metal-asteroid-impact.html
 
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