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BBC Verify: No, UK Weather Is Not Being Manipulated

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckmmkdr0m2po

Among those who deny the existence of climate change, an alternative theory has been gaining momentum. It alleges that the government is supposedly controlling both weather and climate for sinister purposes.

Variations of this narrative have been circulating online for years, but in the aftermath of unusual weather events it tends to resurface on all major social media platforms.

By using social media analytics tools, BBC Verify found that conversation around these topics has been gaining momentum this year.

These types of beliefs were covered in a lot more depth last year in an academic paper by one of the scientists quoted at the end of the BBC piece:
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(23)00243-2

I'm sure many will remain unconvinced despite 'Big Weather's' best efforts here! :crazy:
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckmmkdr0m2po



These types of beliefs were covered in a lot more depth last year in an academic paper by one of the scientists quoted at the end of the BBC piece:
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(23)00243-2

I'm sure many will remain unconvinced despite 'Big Weather's' best efforts here! :crazy:
Sitting here wearing my Oodie in July, I wonder what end consequences could possibly be envisaged, apart from massive growth in the winter coat market.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckmmkdr0m2po



These types of beliefs were covered in a lot more depth last year in an academic paper by one of the scientists quoted at the end of the BBC piece:
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(23)00243-2

I'm sure many will remain unconvinced despite 'Big Weather's' best efforts here! :crazy:

Ohhh-kay: The people who claim to be able to tell me what the weather will be like in 100 years’ time (despite telling me 24 hours ago that it would be raining right now, when it’s going to be dry all morning), are now reassuring me that people who l wouldn’t trust to control their own sphincters, aren’t controlling the climate.

Well, that’s me placated.

maximus otter
 
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Ohhh-kay: The people who claim to be able to tell me what the weather will be like in 100 years’ time (despite telling me 24 hours ago that it would be raining right now, when it’s going to be dry all morning), are now reassuring me that people who l wouldn’t trust to control their own sphincters aren’t controlling the climate.

Well, that’s me placated.

maximus otter
But 'they' say that it's the Government that are manipulating the weather, not the Met Office. And if it's long range forecasting you're after, can I recommend the Met Office Deep Dive or Ten Day Trend


They are usually a bit more accurate.
 
We use the NOAA website for weather forecasts. It's far more reliable than any commercial outfit. The others tend toward pessimism, which goes right along with the marketing of fear when severe weather is imminent. It really is a shitshow here, especially on local newscasts. The NOAA product is pretty dry (heh) compared to the hype and the fearmongering on TV. More like a lecture from a college prof and less like an episode of Jerry Springer. Thankfully.
 
Ohhh-kay: The people who claim to be able to tell me what the weather will be like in 100 years’ time (despite telling me 24 hours ago that it would be raining right now, when it’s going to be dry all morning), are now reassuring me that people who l wouldn’t trust to control their own sphincters, aren’t controlling the climate.

Well, that’s me placated.

maximus otter

So - people who can’t control their sphincters are controlling the climate. Got it.
 
I think that the disaster at Lynmouth was the exact opposite of 'controlling the weather'. Experiments in controlling weather for military uses were discontinued when the scientists realised that there is no possibility of 'control' in these situations; just the prospect of random disasters.

Operation Popeye turned out to be a useless waste of money and effort. The rains increased alright, but the Viet Cong were able to adapt; they were used to it, and won the war.

Weather modification for use in conflict has been illegal since 1978.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention
Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques.
 
I mean, while we will be told to keep this thread on topic, that is actually a legitimate conversation / rabbit hole (with its own set of detractors!)

(The conspiracy theory is that BBC Verify is quietly run by the UK secret services - obviously)
It's got nothing to do with conspiracies, etc. It's a valid question and linked to the topic directly. Who verifies Verify?
 
Random weather-related disasters are not a useful weapon in conflict, and weather modification using any methods available in the 21st century is random and impossible to control. That means the 'control' aspect is a misnomer.

Maybe one day we will have much more sophisticated forms of weather control, but cloud-seeding is weak sauce compared to true climate engineering.
 
Random weather-related disasters are not a useful weapon in conflict, and weather modification using any methods available in the 21st century is random and impossible to control. That means the 'control' aspect is a misnomer.

Maybe one day we will have much more sophisticated forms of weather control, but cloud-seeding is weak sauce compared to true climate engineering.
Yes, after all, the weather related disasters are going to affect both sides in any conflict. It might seem that monsoons and landslides are a great idea to beat the opposition, until you too are wading up to your chest in liquid mud.
 
My good friend (now sadly deceased) was incredibly intellegent and also had amazing practical skills (he could build you a house install a complex IT and Telecom system by himself etc) and appeared on the telly frequently. But he did actually believe most conspiracy theories including the fact that the weather was being controlled by the "ruling elite". He was something of an enigma.
 
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