Emperor wrote:
1. Reliable witnesses - most times friends and family would be a bit iffy but if, as has been suggested a number of times, we are dealing with something bordering on a cult then you need to be extra cautious. That sai a lot o that testimnoy makes me wodner what they actually saw. Meier seems to be seeing very clear ships but most witnesses get a run around in a dark wood followed by some odd lights. Their testimony makes me suspect something suspcious is going on not he other way around.
I've read and read the witness testimony from the sites I gave you.
As I read it, there are a number of people who are talking of sightings as early as 1975, these include "children" who are most likely to report what they see. The "cult" seems to be a product of internet sites related to the information from FIGU. I know that when I discovered and joined the FIGU discussion group in 1998/1999, the website and forum had only just been formed. I've also heard (from someone) that the Plejarens told Billy that he would "not be happy with the current group." That could be total hearsay. So, I think the likelihood of early witness testimony is good. Also, as I read the witnesses, it seems that several people had not only daylight sightings, but three (maybe) saw Asket, Ptaah, and Semjase. I'm still willing to give some credence to this criteria.
2. Corroborating evidence - the stuff from the air force sounds intriguing but do we have anything other than that guy's word?
In some cases, "the word" is the best we can do. I hope you are familiar with the work of Dr. Steven Greer, founder of the Disclosure Prolect. It was Dr. Greer who gathered a group of top military, government, and intelligence witnesses to speak at the National Press Club Conference in Washington, D.C. on May 9,2001 for the purpose of uncovering a 50+ year government cover-up and for attesting to the reality of Exterrestrials,
Extraterrestrial Vehicles (ETV's - they are no longer Unidentified Flying Objects or UFO's) and extraterrestrial intelligence. Each speaker says "My testimony is true and I will tell this to the United States Congress." You may be interested in taking a look at it:
http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm
So, here I would be willing to hear the testimony of UFO Researcher Erwin Murner from Zurich who claims to have confirmed information by talking with two Swiss Air Force officers. Coupled with the very early (1975ish) eyewitness testimony, I argue that the "witness testimony" of the case could
help but not hurt the case.
3. Testing of physical evidence - getting the space metal tested and it showing clear signs of being not of this earth.
Okay, here we are again (Think I'll go join Spillage now for a toddy.)
In all seriousness, would you and perhaps some others care to join in on an e-mail to FIGU Switzerland? Michael says there are other samples there. I don't seem to be having much response about re-opening this aspect of the investigation, but there's nothing keeping anyone else from making a case for it. I'd be willing to help draft something, but you seem to have some very capable writers here. I'd certainly want to sign any finished piece.
Finally,
It is ultimately up to people making the claims to provide solid proof and as he has been shown to be a faker Meier and co have a big mountain to climb and at this stage they'd need to pull somehting special out of the bag.
Yes, very true, once any of us gets caught in lies and fraud, our credibilty is pretty well shot. (Okay, is this why the Plejarens deliberately insert "plausible deniability" so that Billy will not be readily believed? That's what they say, anyway.
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But I'm with you. I wouldn't mind it at all if something
really special
jumped right out of the bag. We're left with:
1)witnesses (maybe) to seeing the craft, seeing 3 different ET beings, seeing landing tracks, hearing and tapes of the sounds of the craft, and photographs of the craft
2)a very iffy metal specimen
3)new handprints left on the hood of someone's truck and currently being analyzed
4)all the contact notes (information imparted to Billy alone by his ET friends)
5) what Michael Horn calls the "higher standard of proof" i.e. Billy's prophetically accurate information, allegedly imparted to him by his Plejaren friends
6)The (questionable) co-discovery by Billy and Rashid of theTalmud of Jmmanuel
7)the absolutely unproven ancient parchment listing the seven prophets of Billy Meier's prophetic lineage
(If I can think of more, I'll add it)
8)witnesses to a partly burned tree after a beamship made physical contact with it.
9)witnesses to a tree completely vanishing, leaving no trace of ever having been there
10)of the "The Spiritual Teachings." A whole category of its own which doesn't (to my knowledge) provide evidence of the Plejarens
Again, if I think of anything else . . . (How many times can you edit?)