Bin Laden Kill

[Analogue Boy]

I'm surprised that I haven't seen a thread dissecting reports that the team who killed Bin Laden were themselves taken out by the Taliban by rocket fire on their heli.
Rich food for conspiracy theorists surely.

KABUL, Afghanistan — A military helicopter was shot down in eastern Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. special operation troops, most of them from the elite Navy SEALs unit that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, along with seven Afghan commandos. It was the deadliest single incident for American forces in the decade-long war.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44043847/ns ... ghanistan/

A current and a former U.S. official said the Americans killed included 22 Navy SEALs, three Air Force members and a dog handler and his dog.

All but two of the SEALs were from SEAL Team 6, the unit that killed Usama bin Laden in Pakistan last May, officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information. None of the SEALs killed in the crash took part in the bin Laden mission.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/10 ... airstrike/


Anyone interested or is this on another thread?

 

[TinFinger_]

sounds a bit iffy imo

all thats left now is the fact they have said he is dead
nobody left who was there no body and all photograpic proff restricted

we will just have to take there word for it ?

 

[hokum6]

Come on chaps, read before you post, this is how silly conspiracy theories get started.

nobody left who was there

This is from the article posted just above your comment:

None of the SEALs killed in the crash took part in the bin Laden mission.

 

[Analogue Boy]

There is a discrepancy between the two reports but it was stated by many sources that the seals responsible for the death of bin Laden were taken out.

President Barack Obama said Saturday that the deaths of Americans in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan are a reminder of the "extraordinary" price the U.S. military is paying in the decade-long Afghan war.

Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed former Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/06 ... ter-crash/

More than 20 Navy Seals died in the helicopter crash that killed 31 in Afghanistan yesterday.

Some of those Seals were members of Seal Team 6 that took part in the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden, the AP reported today; although they were not actual participants in the Pakistan raid, according to the New York Times.

How can both sides of this story be correct?

 

[Moooksta]

How can both sides of this story be correct?

We are using Fox News as one of the sources, place your faith in that if you will.

 

[Xanatic_]

As has been said before, the soldiers were from the same unit. It was not the same soldiers. That a newspaper gets that wrong proves nothing. I think it was mentioned elsewhere that the unit consists of about 260 soldiers.

 

[Jerry_B]

Exactly!

 

[Jonfairway]

I think it was mentioned elsewhere that the unit consists of about 260 soldiers.

who have no idea who they have just killed and just follow orders like good soldiers do.

now get that body dumped into the sea boys asap

 

[Jerry_B]

who have no idea who they have just killed and just follow orders like good soldiers do.

How do you know that?

 

[Jonfairway]

educated guess Jerry

 

[Jerry_B]

Hmm. Seems unlikely that a special forces unit wouldn't know who their target was.

 

[Jonfairway]

know who theit target is - yes - his name, this is where he is - one they are given

do they ask him when they get there who he is ---- errrr no

bang bang bang bang shot in face bang bang

yeah thats him

 

[Jerry_B]

Again, how do you know that?

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

There's every chance that the guy who was shot was not Bin Laden but one of his mates who used to come round and watch the Arsenal games with him on his big TV. It's not implausible that Bin Laden was in the kitchen fixing a bacon sandwich.

We've got to keep an open, gaping mind on these things.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

And, until now, we have absolutely no actual proof, one way, or the other. Just the word of a politician and his subordinates.

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

And no counterclaim from those affiliates of Bin Laden not signed up to the agenda of said politician and his subordinates.

Or, indeed, Osama himself.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

And no counterclaim from those affiliates of Bin Laden not signed up to the agenda of said politician and his subordinates.

Or, indeed, Osama himself.

If he was even alive at the time. :lol:

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

And no counterclaim from those affiliates of Bin Laden not signed up to the agenda of said politician and his subordinates.

Or, indeed, Osama himself.

If he was even alive at the time.

There more evidence for flying saucers! :lol:

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

And no counterclaim from those affiliates of Bin Laden not signed up to the agenda of said politician and his subordinates.

Or, indeed, Osama himself.

If he was even alive at the time. :lol:

...although none of his affiliates have bothered to suggest he wasn't.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

As if that proves anything. :lol:

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

As if that proves anything. :lol:

It proves that his affiliates don't think it would be worth pointing out even though it could completely destroy the credibility of their enemies and start kind of war they've sought for nearly two decades.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

As if the various wars in the Middle East weren't enough, already?

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

As if the various wars in the Middle East weren't enough, already?

Yeah, the Islamists have really got that region sown up.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

Whose side are we on out there?

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

Whose side are we on out there?

I've absolutely no idea who you're referring to by "we".

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

Confusing, isn't it?

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia”

 

[Jerry_B]

If Bin Laden isn't dead, it's strange that he's not sent out a message stating that. Ditto for his chain of command/followers.

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

If Bin Laden isn't dead, it's strange that he's not sent out a message stating that. Ditto for his chain of command/followers.

That's still making the assumption that he was alive, any time in the last several years.

 

[ted_bloody_maul]

It's also making the assumption that all his acolytes and subordinates - not to mention his family - must have erroneously thought him alive. Or at the very least have sought to keep his agenda going and are incapable of seeing the enormous propaganda coup that proving his earlier death would bring. It's possible but is plausible?

 

[Pietro_Mercurios]

... It's possible but is plausible?

The number of times I've asked that same question, these last ten years. Many, many times. Including about the reasons for the War in Iraq.

Question:
What is the most recent really clear and authentic photo, or video, of Osama Bin Laden, that anyone can actually remember seeing? Not including alleged voice-overs, or audio tapes.