Black Jesus: Israel United In Christ

[MrRING]

I found a flyer of this group in the library today and hadn't heard of them before.

This is the website, but I couldn't get it to load:
https://israelunite.org/

Their Twitter page is working just fine though:
https://twitter.com/ElderNathanyel
The quote on Twitter sums up the flyer I have concisely:

Negroes, Hispanics and Native Americans, You ARE the Children of ISRAEL. We made God angry, and he put us into slavery. It's time to come back to God.

The back of the flyer lists the groups belief that these are the Twelve Tribes of Israel:
Judah - American Blacks
Benjamin - West Indian Blacks
Leyi - Haitians
Ephraim - Puerto Ricans
Manasseh - Cubans
Simeon - Dominicans
Zebulon - Guatemala to Panama (Mayans)
Gad - Native American Indians
Reuben - Seminole Indians
Asher - Columbia to Uruguay (Incans)
Issachar - Mexicans (Aztecs)
Naphtali - Argentina/Chile

 

[Xanatic*]

Weren't only one of the tribes lost?

 

[Mythopoeika]

Weren't only one of the tribes lost?

And they were found, in Ethiopia or somewhere like that.

 

[Dr_Baltar]

 

[Mythopoeika]

In reality, if he existed at all, Jesus would have been pretty dark-skinned. Maybe not Nubian-dark, but noticeably dark-skinned.

 

[Steerpike]

Weren't only one of the tribes lost?

No, the ten tribes that made up the Kingdom of Israel vanished from the historical/folkloric record when they were deported by Assyrian invaders in 700ish BC. Today's Jews are supposedly descended only from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi (because there were actually thirteen tribes; Dan seems to have been omitted from the list on the flyer. Maybe they're still lost.)

Also, this:

 

[Xanatic*]

Jesus was only middle-eastern on his mother's side though.

 

[AlchoPwn]

The back of the flyer lists the groups belief that these are the Twelve Tribes of Israel : Judah - American Blacks, Benjamin - West Indian Blacks, Leyi - Haitians, Ephraim - Puerto Ricans, Manasseh - Cubans, Simeon - Dominicans, Zebulon - Guatemala to Panama (Mayans), Gad - Native American Indians, Reuben - Seminole Indians, Asher - Columbia to Uruguay (Incans), Issachar - Mexicans (Aztecs), Naphtali - Argentina/Chile

Wow, that is so dumb. Whoever came up with this knows nothing about the Bible, History or Genetics. All the Native Americans are of Asiatic mitochondrial heritage. Now within the Bible, that separates peoples into Japhetic (Caucasian), Semitic (Middle Eastern/Asian), and Hamitic (African), so we can pretend that the Native Americans are "LOL Bible Jewish", there is no way the peoples of African descent could possibly be. Worse still, as pretty much all the Africans who were enslaved in the New World were captured from tribes on the West Coast of Africa, to separate their tribes this way is absurd.

The author is also clearly wrong about the West Indians being the Benjaminites. We know the Benjaminites best for their horrific behavior in "the Levite and his Concubine" (probably the grisliest, most anti-moral story in the Bible). The West Indians I have met have all been lovely to me, having been gracious and personable hosts and great cooks to boot, and not once did they threatened me with sodomy unless I hand over my girlfriend so they can rape and murder her.

Clearly West Indians =/= Benjaminites.

As an aside, Benjamin means "Son of my Right Hand", which is hilarious (think Onanism).

 

[Victory]

Wow, that is so dumb. Whoever came up with this knows nothing about the Bible, History or Genetics. All the Native Americans are of Asiatic mitochondrial heritage. Now within the Bible, that separates peoples into Japhetic (Caucasian), Semitic (Middle Eastern/Asian), and Hamitic (African), so we can pretend that the Native Americans are "LOL Bible Jewish", there is no way the peoples of African descent could possibly be. Worse still, as pretty much all the Africans who were enslaved in the New World were captured from tribes on the West Coast of Africa, to separate their tribes this way is absurd.

I am not stating that the website and it's claims are correct in their entirety.
Certainly not when Jewish populations were historically spread throughout the world.

But the study of Genetics and DNA is very much an emerging one, where I believe the majority of the field is yet to be discovered.

There is enough data to merit further study on the origins of 'Native American" populations.
I think there is little doubt that they are of Asian/Siberian origin, but there is reasonable doubt that is the totality of their genetic make up.
It is entirely possible that people from the Middle East sailed to what is now the Yucatan Peninsula over 2000 years ago...this is one theory of where the land of Ophir was..a land which is mentioned in the bible.

Plus this study of Cherokee DNA needs follow up studies..it shows the presence of non-Asiatic DNA material in Cherokees.

https://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/cherokee-dna.htm

so we can pretend that the Native Americans are "LOL Bible Jewish", there is no way the peoples of African descent could possibly be. Worse still, as pretty much all the Africans who were enslaved in the New World were captured from tribes on the West Coast of Africa, to separate their tribes this way is absurd.

Current research shows the majority of Africans taken to America during slavery came from West Africa but, some also came from Central Africa....Angola and Congo, plus those transported by Arab slaveowners in East Africa through the Trans-Saharan caravans to slave markets in West Africa.

There are populations containing some Jewish heritage in West Africa, the most well known being the Igbos of Nigeria and Cameroon. They may be of ancient origin, they may have come middle ages migration of the Jews of Arabic North and West Africa.
Or a bit of both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_of_Bilad_el-Sudan


So could some people who are Jewish by virtue of their matrilineal heritage be now living in the West Indies?
Certainly.

Though a clear division into tribes based on modern nation states to the exclusion of other populations is absurd.

 

[AlchoPwn]

It is entirely possible that people from the Middle East sailed to what is now the Yucatan Peninsula over 2000 years ago...this is one theory of where the land of Ophir was..a land which is mentioned in the bible.Plus this study of Cherokee DNA needs follow up studies..it shows the presence of non-Asiatic DNA material in Cherokees.

That Yucatan Peninsula connection is conjectural and sketchy. Far from impossible though. As to non-Asiatic DNA in the Cherokee, well, the "Cherokee princess" in the ancestry proving to be from North Africa is as likely to be misremembered family history. Lovely though most Americans are, they tend to be a bit parochial and not know much about the outside world, and sadly lack the curiosity to find out. I could easily imagine a scenario where the woman with the tan skin and dark hair who doesn't speak English is misidentified as the nearest ethnic group that looks somewhat alike, in this case Cherokee. The other thing is, how many distinct ethnicities can claim or would even want to claim a pure racial lineage without also goose-stepping through Berlin on 20th April?

Current research shows the majority of Africans taken to America during slavery came from West Africa but, some also came from Central Africa....Angola and Congo, plus those transported by Arab slaveowners in East Africa through the Trans-Saharan caravans to slave markets in West Africa.
There are populations containing some Jewish heritage in West Africa, the most well known being the Igbos of Nigeria and Cameroon. They may be of ancient origin, they may have come middle ages migration of the Jews of Arabic North and West Africa.Or a bit of both. So could some people who are Jewish by virtue of their matrilineal heritage be now living in the West Indies? Certainly.Though a clear division into tribes based on modern nation states to the exclusion of other populations is absurd.

It was not, as you suggest a "Middle Ages migration", but the expulsion after the Reconquista and the Inquisition that saw the expulsion of the Jews into North Africa where Leo Africanus, writing in 1526 tells us:
In Garura there were some very rich Jews. The intervention of the preacher (Muhammid al-Maghili) of Tlemcen set up the pillage of their goods, and most of them have been killed by the population. This event took place during the same year when the Jews had been expelled from Spain and Sicily by the Catholic King."

Later we are told:
In addition, it may be noticed that Jews are to be found in the Berber "ksurs" (fortified villages) all along southern Morocco and in the adjacent Sahara. Thus, at Outat near Tafilalt there is a mellah with about 500 Jews; and at Figuig, a mellah with 100 Jews. Going farther south to Tuat, there is a large community of Jews in the oasis of Alhamada; and at Tamentit, a two weeks' journey from Tafilalt, the 6,000 or 8,000 inhabitants are said to be descendants of Jews converted to Islam. Even much farther to the west, in the province of Sus, there is Ogulmin with 3,000 inhabitants, of whom 100 are said to be Jews.

Not much evidence then of Jewish refugees penetrating the Sahara and going south of the Equator into the areas from where the slaves who would go to the New World were captured from. Jews were also forbidden to trade in slaves, as such traffic was restricted to Muslim merchants in the region. It is unclear whether Dhimmi (non-Muslims) were even entitled to own slaves in these regions; that being seen as a Muslim prerogative as part of the "conversion to Islam" process. The chances of Dhimmi being able to impregnate African slaves was low in Africa proper, and the notion of Jews electing to pass on knowledge of their lineage in such furtive exchanges is extremely low. Now there is genetic heritage evidence suggesting that the Lemba people of East Africa have some claim to Jewish heritage, but they are on the opposite side of the continent, where the Muslim slave traders exclusively sold their victims into Arabia/Middle East, Persia and the Sub Continent. Slaves from East Africa would have to have a lot of weird and unpleasant adventures to end up in the Americas. Suffice to say very few did, and they had mostly become pirates. It was a tiny population. The notion that of the 10.7 million slaves who survived the Atlantic Crossing (1.8 million died), that there was even substantial minority of mixed blood Jewish Africans in the mix is not credible based on studies of mitochondrial DNA. In fact Africans of different tribes were forced to co-habit and the slave owners did everything they could to strip the slaves of their African heritage, so the whole notion of people from Haiti being somehow distinctly of the Leyi tribe of Israel, or all African Americans in the USA being of the tribe of Judah is pure fiction.

I have no agenda to push and no dog in this fight, except for trying to keep the history straight in an area where people are constantly fighting to misrepresent the facts in order to misrepresent their origin stories. I can understand why people want to mythologize a horrible family history, hell, my own family had a few skeletons in the closet when we did our mitochondrial search and genealogy study. Rather than hide in the lie, we chose to laugh a lot at my Grandma's Hyacinth Bucket-esque pretentions. We also giggled a lot to discover that a portion of my Father's lineage was a prolific breeding family of upholsterers from Southampton called the Bangers who had 16 kids. Simply put, the truth is always more interesting.

 

[Victory]

That Yucatan Peninsula connection is conjectural and sketchy. Far from impossible though. As to non-Asiatic DNA in the Cherokee, well, the "Cherokee princess" in the ancestry proving to be from North Africa is as likely to be misremembered family history.

It was DNA analysis which showed enough markers of non-Asiatic DNA (especially Middle Eastern) in Cherokee populations to merit further studies.

There is also the interesting photo of Bear Bull, a Blackfoot. Note the prominence of hair high on his forehead, and the position of the platted sidelocks.
Very similar to the placement of the head Phylactery (Tefillin) worn by Jews when praying, and of the side "Peyot" strands of hair worn by Chaisidic Jews.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...Bear_Bull.jpg/200px-Blackfoot_-_Bear_Bull.jpg

These are grounds which warrant further investigation.

It was not, as you suggest a "Middle Ages migration", but the expulsion after the Reconquista and the Inquisition that saw the expulsion of the Jews into North Africa where Leo Africanus, writing in 1526 tells us:
In Garura there were some very rich Jews. The intervention of the preacher (Muhammid al-Maghili) of Tlemcen set up the pillage of their goods, and most of them have been killed by the population. This event took place during the same year when the Jews had been expelled from Spain and Sicily by the Catholic King."



Later we are told:
In addition, it may be noticed that Jews are to be found in the Berber "ksurs" (fortified villages) all along southern Morocco and in the adjacent Sahara. Thus, at Outat near Tafilalt there is a mellah with about 500 Jews; and at Figuig, a mellah with 100 Jews. Going farther south to Tuat, there is a large community of Jews in the oasis of Alhamada; and at Tamentit, a two weeks' journey from Tafilalt, the 6,000 or 8,000 inhabitants are said to be descendants of Jews converted to Islam. Even much farther to the west, in the province of Sus, there is Ogulmin with 3,000 inhabitants, of whom 100 are said to be Jews.

Not much evidence then of Jewish refugees penetrating the Sahara and going south of the Equator into the areas from where the slaves who would go to the New World were captured from. Jews were also forbidden to trade in slaves, as such traffic was restricted to Muslim merchants in the region.

You are not correct.
Jews have lived in North Africa for over 2000 years, their presence noted in Egypt even before the massacres of Jews by the Romans in Israel/Judah around the year 73.

Jewish mercenaries worked on the Egypt/Sudan border area at Elephantine 500 BCE.

http://www.ancientsudan.org/articles_jewish_elephantine.html

There is also the ancient Jewish presence in Ethiopia and Somalia.

Who is to say some did not migrate to other parts of Africa?

As for Jews who were expelled from Iberia in the 15th century, they reached the Cape Verde islands....so why not what has become Nigeria?

The Lemba DNA is proven to be middle eastern, but not proven to be Jewish. There are theories which think they came from 7th or 8th century Arab traders/sailors, and so their Abrahamic roots and refusal to eat pork suggest a very early form of Islam. Others think they have Jewish origins.

 

[AlchoPwn]

It was DNA analysis which showed enough markers of non-Asiatic DNA (especially Middle Eastern) in Cherokee populations to merit further studies.
There is also the interesting photo of Bear Bull, a Blackfoot. Note the prominence of hair high on his forehead, and the position of the platted sidelocks.
Very similar to the placement of the head Phylactery (Tefillin) worn by Jews when praying, and of the side "Peyot" strands of hair worn by Chaisidic Jews.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...Bear_Bull.jpg/200px-Blackfoot_-_Bear_Bull.jpg These are grounds which warrant further investigation.

Yes, agreed, those similarities are pretty apparent, and his name is an obvious reference to the Stock Market terminology regarding whether it is a buyers' or a sellers' market. This is a fine example of confirmation bias. Now go and have a look at all the hairstyles and headdresses of the Cherokee that bear no resemblance to those of Judaism, as they far outnumber those that do. One example does not a pattern make.

On the other hand, the DNA claim is interesting. Do you have a link?

You are not correct.
Jews have lived in North Africa for over 2000 years, their presence noted in Egypt even before the massacres of Jews by the Romans in Israel/Judah around the year 73.
Jewish mercenaries worked on the Egypt/Sudan border area at Elephantine 500 BCE.
http://www.ancientsudan.org/articles_jewish_elephantine.html
There is also the ancient Jewish presence in Ethiopia and Somalia.Who is to say some did not migrate to other parts of Africa? As for Jews who were expelled from Iberia in the 15th century, they reached the Cape Verde islands....so why not what has become Nigeria? The Lemba DNA is proven to be middle eastern, but not proven to be Jewish. There are theories which think they came from 7th or 8th century Arab traders/sailors, and so their Abrahamic roots and refusal to eat pork suggest a very early form of Islam. Others think they have Jewish origins.

It is true that Jews certainly lived and worked in Egypt, as they were very close neighbors. It is also noted that the Jews of Elephantine had their own "House of YHVH" much like Samaritans, and that it evinces polytheistic beliefs alongside the core beliefs, such as might be found in the worship of El of the Canaanite pantheon. The whole structure offers a fascinating insight into Pre-Babylonian Captivity Judaism, and I would love to visit it some day.

It is also unequivocal that Ethiopia and Somalia has Judaic heritage, no argument. There were as you correctly say, also some Jews in Cape Verde who escaped the Spanish Crown's expulsion. In the case of the Lemba, your skepticism is warranted. While there is some cultural evidence of Judaic practices around their language and circumcision practices allegedly, it is as likely to be Arabic as you say, as there are many cultural similarities.

It is also certain that Jewish Slave traders went to Sub-Saharan Africa to purchase slaves to onsell in the Americas. Now if there were indeed Sub-Saharan black Jews on the West Coast of Africa, that would lead to the embarrassing situation of Jewish slave traders potentially selling their co-religionists into slavery in the New World.

Now there is precious little mitochondrial evidence of the various Sub-Saharan tribes of West Africa having Semitic or Middle Eastern genes, and what is there is more likely to come from the Islamic invasion anyhow. They are not religiously observant Jews, and they don't speak anything like a form of Hebrew. Any claims of crypto-Judaism is less likely than some form of Islamic influence that drew from Judaism. I think that the claims of the Black Hebrew Israelites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites from whom the claims are derived, are very far fetched.

 

[Victory]

On the other hand, the DNA claim is interesting. Do you have a link?

Yes,

https://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/cherokee-dna.htm

http://thespiritscience.net/2016/08...om-the-middle-east-dna-supports-this-finding/

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/big-chief-rabbi-why-cherokees-could-be-jewish-1.53565

There is also a very long essay here..in five parts.
I stress it is not a DNA analysis, but a faith based opinion.
That does not detract from it being fascinating.

http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/2005/08/the_trail_of_te.html

It is also certain that Jewish Slave traders went to Sub-Saharan Africa to purchase slaves to onsell in the Americas. Now if there were indeed Sub-Saharan black Jews on the West Coast of Africa, that would lead to the embarrassing situation of Jewish slave traders potentially selling their co-religionists into slavery in the New World.

Now there is precious little mitochondrial evidence of the various Sub-Saharan tribes of West Africa having Semitic or Middle Eastern genes, and what is there is more likely to come from the Islamic invasion anyhow. They are not religiously observant Jews, and they don't speak anything like a form of Hebrew. Any claims of crypto-Judaism is less likely than some form of Islamic influence that drew from Judaism. I think that the claims of the Black Hebrew Israelites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites from whom the claims are derived, are very far fetched.

I was not thinking of African Jewish slave owners, but of Africans with Jewish heritage taken as slaves by Arab slave owners, then sold on to Yoruban and other West African slave owners then in turn to European owners and traders.

I am not aware of any Jewish slave owners in Africa, but there were some slave ship captains who were Jewish, and Jewish slave owners in the 13 colonies and in the West Indies, and some of the shareholders of the Dutch West India company were Jews, their ships being used for slavery.

[There is a well documented controversy about this of which you are probably aware - Farrakhan claiming Jews dominated the trans-Atlantic slave trade vs Faber, Brackman and Friedman who show Jews were slave owners but their involvement was limited and in proportion with other Europeans. see link if required

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-and-the-african-slave-trade/ ]

So yes, it is possible that Jewish slave owners in 18th century America owned African slaves who were Jewish by dint of having a Jewish mother whose mother was Jewish etc all the way back over thousands of years.

As for various branches of Black Hebrew Israelites, their origination from 19th century American churches is part and parcel of their "Replacement Theology"..by their very existence they seek to replace the role of the Jews in the Exodus and the idea of being oppressed, and of a new covenant, and hence they claim true "Jewishness."

Possibly in Manhattan you will have seen them shouting loudly and debating with anyone who stops to argue with them, sometimes rival branches of Hebrew Israelites argue against each other.

 

[ramonmercado]

At least one Black Hebrew Israelite was involved

Police in New Jersey say a Jewish supermarket was the target of a gun attack which left six people dead on Tuesday, including the two suspects.

No motive has yet been given, but the mayor of Jersey City tweeted on Wednesday morning that "hate and anti-Semitism" had no place in the city. The gun battle began when the suspects killed a detective across town, then drove a rental van to the market. Security video shows them firing on the market before going inside. Investigators believe that the three people found dead inside the kosher market were killed by the attackers, who were also found dead inside the building following a four-hour standoff with police.

On Wednesday morning the mayor of Jersey City, Steven Fulop, told reporters that street cameras showed the suspects "slowly" drive towards the market, then "calmly open the door with two long rifles and begin firing from the street" into the shop. Public Safety Director James Shea added that video shows they parked their van "and immediately began firing on the location". Asked how police are certain the shop was targeted, he said that they "bypassed" many other people walking on the street to attack the store.

The attackers have not yet been publicly identified, but New York media has identified them as David Anderson and Francine Graham.

Sources tell NBC that Anderson was a follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, whose believers say they are the true descendents of ancient Israelites.

It is believed that Detective Joseph Seals, 39, who was part of a state-wide programme to confiscate illegal guns, was killed when he approached the two suspects who were driving a van that was suspected to have played a role in a recent homicide.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50747374

 

[Tempest63]

Sources tell NBC that Anderson was a follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, whose believers say they are the true descendents of ancient Israelites.

I’m struggling with this and the comment that anti semitism will not be tolerated. But this seems to be a Jew on Jew attack. Is this not reminiscent of the crusade against the Cathars who, despite being Christian, had a slightly different view of Christianity?


I’ve had a couple of Jameson’s and may be ready for bed!

 

[ramonmercado]

I’m struggling with this and the comment that anti semitism will not be tolerated. But this seems to be a Jew on Jew attack. Is this not reminiscent of the crusade against the Cathars who, despite being Christian, had a slightly different view of Christianity?


I’ve had a couple of Jameson’s and may be ready for bed!

The Black Hebrews have the same relationship to Judaism as the Nation of Islam (aka Black Muslims) have to Islam.

 

[Tempest63]

The Black Hebrews have the same relationship to Judaism as the Nation of Islam (aka Black Muslims) have to Islam.

So is it not a Jew on Jew attack? Please explain please.

 

[ramonmercado]

So is it not a Jew on Jew attack? Please explain please.

I guess all religions are made up but some at least have some theology behind them. Black Hebrews and Nation of Islam were set up/made up by crooks and nutters, a bit like SPAC Nation which I also posted about today.

 

[ramonmercado]

So is it not a Jew on Jew attack? Please explain please.

Some more info on the shootings.

Did an influx of Hasidic residents in the Greenville neighborhood of Jersey City spur two assailants to embark on a shooting spree that left six people dead?

... Except, as it turned out, there appeared to be a more insidious motive behind Tuesday’s violence. A few years ago, sixty-two Hasidic families moved into Greenville, refugees of high Brooklyn rents. A community center near the crime scene had become a de-facto staging area for victims’ families, and several volunteers, who were trained to offer medical support and grief counselling, had come from Hasidic communities in upstate New York or Brooklyn. Based on the reporting that had emerged at the time, a number of people outside of the center, none of whom wanted to be quoted for this article, expressed relief that the shooting did not appear to be an act of anti-Semitism. Recently, old tensions had begun to simmer in the neighborhood. Some residents have complained about the insularity and new influence of the Hasidic community over the local real-estate market. The Hasidic community, meanwhile, has chafed at local politicians who told them their new shul was violating zoning laws. The shul sits next to the site of the shooting.

The police initially said there was no evidence of a hate crime, that the grocery was chosen at random rather than out of religious animus. Later in the evening, Jersey City’s mayor, Steven Fulop, tweeted a statement revising the city’s original assessment: they now believed the kosher supermarket was intentionally targeted, perhaps out of anti-Semitism. According to the Times, surveillance footage had shown the U-Haul driving “slowly and deliberately” to the market, which was a mile from the cemetery where the two suspects had shot and killed Seals. Officials are also investigating possible ties between the shooters and the Black Hebrew Israelites, a radical sect that has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. (The Black Hebrew Israelites have no connection to traditional Judaism.) The Chabad organization said that at least two of the three bystanders killed had been members of the Hasidic community: Leah Minda Ferencz and Moshe Deutsch. At a press conference at City Hall, on Wednesday, Rabbi David Niederman, the executive director and president of the United Jewish Organizations of Williamsburg, asked, “Are Jews safe in New York City?” He went on, “It seems that in the New York metropolitan area, they are not.” ...

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/untangling-the-hate-at-the-heart-of-the-mass-shooting-in-jersey-city

 

[Victory]

It is not a Jew on Jew attack.

Black Hebrew Israelites, and other variants of Black Hebrews with various names...Nubian Islamic Hebrews, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem etc... evolved out of the African-American churches of the late 19th century.

They have a cult-like ethos and pretty much out of nowhere claim to be "The True Jews".
They spend a fair bit of time verbally confronting and attacking Jews, accusing us of being "Fake Jews".
They have no amiable connections to any Jewish community outside of Israel.

It is possible, as I wrote above, post #13, that some of these African-Americans are Jewish in that they have a Jewish matrilineal ancestor.
Some of the slaves taken to the American colonies were Igbo, and it is more than likely that some Igbos are Jewish according to Jewish law, even if they do not practice it.

But Black Hebrew Israelite groups do not practice Judaism.

The closest they come is the community mainly based in Dimona, Israel, who are not regarded as Jews by the Israeli populace or rabbinate.
They do not regard themselves as Jews, but as Hebrews.
Their relations with Israeli Jews are at a certain distance, but not violently hostile.

They arrived early 1970's after their leader, a bus driver from Chicago, had a sort of vision and moved to Israel with his followers, (after a short time in Africa.)
This community of a few thousand keeps a faith based on their own interpretation of the Old Testament. They are vegan.
They are in many cases Israeli citizens, and serve in the Israeli Military.
A famous member is Ben Blackwell, a rapper.

Neither are they to be confused with the small numbers of African Americans in Harlem who might as well be called "Black Jews of Harlem" for want of a better term. They have about five synagogues, and though again are not Jewish according to Jewish law, they practice a faith much closer in ritual to Judaism.
In some cases they attend regular synagogues as well, have some links to the Jewish community, and it seems that they do not claim "exclusivity" as "true Jews."

https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/black-jews-harlem/

Nor are Hebrew Israelites connected to Jews of Ethiopian heritage, who are nearly all from the Beta Israel community.
The overwhelming majority of Ethiopian Jews are now in Israel, and are recognised as Jews, ordained as Rabbis etc.
Though there remains the Beta Avraham community in Ethiopia, some of whom may be Jewish under Jewish law but do not practice Judaism.
And some of the Falash Mura community remain, who converted from Judaism to Christianity around 100 years ago.


This clip shows Black Hebrew Israelites in New York verbally criticising Israeli Jews of Ethiopian heritage and telling them they are not Jewish!

 

[AlchoPwn]

It is not a Jew on Jew attack....Black Hebrew Israelites, and other variants of Black Hebrews with various names...Nubian Islamic Hebrews, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem etc... evolved out of the African-American churches of the late 19th century.... This clip shows Black Hebrew Israelites in New York verbally criticising Israeli Jews of Ethiopian heritage and telling them they are not Jewish!

That is some serious anti-semitic racial discrimination. Where do these axeholes get off?

 

[Xanatic*]

I was thinking that guy on the left in the Shakka Ahmose video above looked familiar. He is dressed like Thulsa Doom, the villain in Conan the Barbarian.

 

[ramonmercado]

FBI treating the attack as a terrorist incident.

A gun attack on a Jewish supermarket in New Jersey is being investigated as domestic terrorism driven by anti-Semitism and hatred of police, officials say.

The FBI is now overseeing the investigation into the attack in Jersey City, where four people were killed. Police shot two suspected attackers after a four-hour standoff. The suspects were identified as David Anderson, 47, and Francine Graham, 50.

"The evidence points towards acts of hate," state Attorney General Gurbir Grewal said. "We are investigating this matter as potential acts of domestic terror, fuelled both by anti-Semitism and anti-law enforcement beliefs."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50764276

 

[ramonmercado]

Anti-Semitism is a very real thing in Jersey City.

Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop is calling on a school official who referred to Jewish people as “brutes” in an angry Facebook post to resign.

Fulop denounced the official, Jersey City Board of Education trustee Joan Terrell-Paige, over a lengthy Facebook comment in which she appeared to justify last week’s deadly assault on a Jewish market carried out by two shooters in Jersey City, New Jersey. The attack left six people dead, including the shooters, a police officer and two members of the city’s Hasidic community. Fulop called the shooting an attack on the Jewish community, confirming reports that one of the shooters had posted anti-Semitic comments on social media.

In her Facebook post, Terrell-Paige asked whether people were “brave enough to explore the answer” to why the shooters targeted the Jewish market. She also criticized the sympathy being offered to the Jewish community.

“Where was all this faith and hope when Black homeowners were threatened intimidated, and harassed by I WANT TO BUY YOUR HOUSE brutes of the jewish community,” Terrell-Paige reportedly wrote on Facebook, according to a screenshot captured by a conservative news blog.

″[The shooters] went directly to the kosher supermarket,” Terrell-Paige continued in her Facebook post. “I believe they knew they would come out in body bags. What is the message they were sending? Are we brave enough to explore the answer to their message? Are we brave enough to stop the assault on the Black communities of America?”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-...ri18n=true&ncid=newsltushpmgnews&guccounter=1

 

[Jim]

Anti-Semitism is a very real thing in Jersey City.

Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop is calling on a school official who referred to Jewish people as “brutes” in an angry Facebook post to resign.

Fulop denounced the official, Jersey City Board of Education trustee Joan Terrell-Paige, over a lengthy Facebook comment in which she appeared to justify last week’s deadly assault on a Jewish market carried out by two shooters in Jersey City, New Jersey. The attack left six people dead, including the shooters, a police officer and two members of the city’s Hasidic community. Fulop called the shooting an attack on the Jewish community, confirming reports that one of the shooters had posted anti-Semitic comments on social media.

In her Facebook post, Terrell-Paige asked whether people were “brave enough to explore the answer” to why the shooters targeted the Jewish market. She also criticized the sympathy being offered to the Jewish community.

“Where was all this faith and hope when Black homeowners were threatened intimidated, and harassed by I WANT TO BUY YOUR HOUSE brutes of the jewish community,” Terrell-Paige reportedly wrote on Facebook, according to a screenshot captured by a conservative news blog.

″[The shooters] went directly to the kosher supermarket,” Terrell-Paige continued in her Facebook post. “I believe they knew they would come out in body bags. What is the message they were sending? Are we brave enough to explore the answer to their message? Are we brave enough to stop the assault on the Black communities of America?”

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The 2 most picked on persecuted peoples in history and the F**kers are trying to pit them against each other. What a crock.