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Blasphemy

And last year another department store had to apologise for selling toilet seats with images of a Hindu deity.
Are some peeps just thick or what? :rolleyes:

:laughing:
Sign of the times.
Harrods won't suffer at all from withdrawing the bikinis. Agreeing to a religious group's complaints about a thing like this can only enhance the company's reputation.

Some years ago, a Brummie shoe-shop owner scorned the local Islamic elders who were offended by the name of Allah written in Arabic on shoes in her shop window.

If she'd taken them out and asked the mosque to deal with them, and gracefully apologised for the offence, she'd have had hundreds of new customers who appreciated her respect for their religion.

Instead she told them to p*ss off and got firebombed. :rolleyes:
 
Well, that was silly, wasn't it?
People should do a bit of research before selling merchandise like this - it's only like a red rag to the least tolerant members of society.
 
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some more:

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Last Updated: Monday, 13 September, 2004, 11:22 GMT 12:22 UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3651684.stm
'Degrading' film angers Buddhists


The poster also sparked protests in Thailand
Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka have protested against a Hollywood film they
say degrades the religion's founder.
A poster for Hollywood Buddha shows US-based producer, director and star
Philippe Caland sitting on the head of a statue of Lord Buddha.

About 500 Buddhist monks from Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Burma gathered
outside the US embassy in Colombo on Monday to protest at the movie.

It tells of a film producer who turns to Buddhism to boost his career.


'Insult'


The poster sparked previous protests in Thailand.

The film scoffs at Lord Buddha, his character and his teaching

Mawarale Baddiya, monk

Mr Caland responded by saying he regretted offending Buddhists and that he
would withdraw the advertisement.

But he said the US release of the film would go ahead on 24 September.

The BBC's Chloe Arnold in Colombo says prominent Buddhist monks in Sri
Lanka have written to the US ambassador here calling for all the scenes they say
denigrate the Buddhist faith to be removed.

Sri Lanka's cultural affairs minister, Vijitha Herath, said the film had
scenes that were harmful to Buddhism and were an insult to all religions.

"We want the release of this film stopped," monk Mawarale Baddiya told the
Associated Press.

"The film scoffs at Lord Buddha, his character and his teaching."


Hollywood Buddha won Best Picture and Best Director at the Taos film
festival in New Mexico.


In the film, the struggling producer rents a Buddha statue and, empowered
by the support of his new-found religion, starts to turn things around.

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mal f
 
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Australian Opposition Party Pledges to Outlaw Religious 'Vilification'

ttp://www.townhall.com/news/politics/20 ... 915a.shtml

Pacific Rim Bureau (CNSNews.com) -

Australia's Labor opposition has pledged to pass legislation outlawing religious vilification if it wins national elections
next month.

Such a move would expand nationwide the type of controversial law already in
place in one Australian state. Critics say that law has been abused to target
Christians.

Under the state of Victoria's three-year-old Racial and Religious Tolerance Act of 2001, Muslims have taken Christian pastors before a legal tribunal accusing them of vilifying Islam. Pagans also have taken action under the law against Christians who were publicly critical of witchcraft.

Now the Labor Party has signaled that it would introduce racial and religious
vilification legislation for the whole country if it forms the next government
after elections on Oct. 9.

At a recent conference in Canberra, Labor shadow attorney-general Nicola Roxon told a largely Christian audience that her party was "committed to introducing religious and racial anti-vilification laws."

Although Roxon presented the proposal as "something that will protect and
promote the right of religious freedom," some Christians worry that it could
instead inhibit their ability to critically examine other faiths.

Bill Muehlenberg of the Australian Family Association said Wednesday all
Australians should be concerned by the Labor proposal.

"Such laws are really anti-freedom of speech laws, and more specifically, are
anti-Christian laws," he said. "They are meant to enforce political correctness
and a stifling religious uniformity of the lowest common denominator."

Muehlenberg felt Christians should be especially concerned.

"Legislation like this on a state level has already been used as a hammer to
silence believers," he said, referring to the Victoria situation.

The laws were unnecessary and should be fully rejected.

A Christian ethics organization, Salt Shakers, worries that Labor may in
addition be planning to restrict speech critical of homosexuality.

It pointed to a Labor election platform pledge to "ensure that gay and lesbian
Australians are given legal protection from discrimination, harassment and
vilification."

In a Senate speech last month, a senior Labor lawmaker declared that once in government "Labor will immediately introduce anti-discrimination laws based on sexuality and introduce protection from harassment and vilification."

Salt Shakers executive director Peter Stokes said the proposals would impose on Australia "the sort of thought and speech legislation currently the domain of communist countries like China and North Korea."

The detrimental effects of such legislation had already been seen in Victoria, he said.

"This does not seem to be troubling left-wing elements of federal Labor who
appear committed to restrict our freedom of speech in an attempt to placate various religious and sexual minorities."

Stokes said simply having an objection to or speaking against another religion,
lifestyle, race or minority group could nowadays be construed as "hatred."

'Inhibiting free discussion'

Peter Costello, Australia's federal Treasurer and a senior politician considered a likely future successor to Prime Minister John Howard, took issue earlier this year with the idea of religious vilification laws.

"I think religious leaders should be free to express their doctrines and their
comparative view of other doctrines," he said in a speech. "Differing views on
religion should not be resolved through civil lawsuits."

Costello said he had opposed previous move to introduce racial vilification
laws, on the grounds that they "would inhibit free discussion of important
political issues."

He also pointed to the situation in Victoria.

"If rival camps start sending informants to rival meetings so they can take
legal proceedings against each other in publicly-funded tribunals we shall not
enhance our openness or tolerance," he said.

Costello was referring specifically to a complaint brought by the Islamic
Council of Victoria (ICV) against two Christian pastors, Danny Nalliah and
Daniel Scot, accused of vilifying Islam at a seminar in March 2002.


The two, both of whom have first-hand experience of Islamic societies, discussed for a Christian audience matters relating to the Koran, Islamic teachings and behavior.

The ICV asked three Muslims to Islam to attend the seminar and after they
reported back, the organization lodged a complaint against the pastors under the state's Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

Nalliah and Scot were taken before a tribunal to face allegations of inciting
"hatred against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule" of
Islam. The case has dragged on for more than two years, and is awaiting a
judge's final decision.

Nalliah is now standing as a candidate for the Senate on behalf of a
Christian-based party, Family First.

He said Wednesday the party would spearhead opposition to any attempt to introduce national religious vilification laws.

"My biggest concern is that this would be a law that is not going to unite
Australians. It's going to divide Australians because it protects minority
rights, whereas the majority - and I would say Caucasian Christians are the
majority in the land - there's nothing to protect them."

Nalliah was present at the Canberra conference at which Labor's Roxon had
announced the party's plan to enact anti-vilification legislation.

He recalled that the overwhelmingly Christian audience had responded strongly, booing and heckling - clearly surprising Roxon, who had depicted the policy as
one of benefit to people of faith.

Many in the audience were aware of the Nalliah-Scot case, however, and were wary of any move to extend across the country a law that could evidently be so easily abused to stifle free speech, he said.

Meanwhile, legislation has been proposed in Britain to "ban incitement to religious hatred," and Christians there, too, are concerned about the
implications.

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Lebanon Bans Da Vinci Code After Catholics Object
Source

Thu Sep 16, 6:25 AM ET


BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon has banned Dan Brown's bestselling novel "The Da Vinci Code" after Catholic leaders complained it was offensive to
Christianity.

Bookstores said on Thursday that security authorities had told them to
pull French, English and Arabic copies off their shelves and had banned local
publishers from distributing more.

"It was definitely one of our most popular books," said Roger Haddad,
assistant manager at Virgin Megastore's bookshop in downtown Beirut.

"This is censorship, people should be allowed to read what they want ...
This book is fiction, everyone knows it's fiction. It is not political or propaganda or history."

In "The Da Vinci Code," an academic uncovers riddles hidden in the
religious works of the famous painter.

For Lebanon's Catholic Information Center, whose criticism apparently led
to the ban, it struck too deeply against Christianity for a country with a
history of sectarian conflict.

"There are paragraphs that touch the very roots of the Christian religion
... They say Jesus Christ had a sexual relationship with Mary Magdalene, that
they had children," the center's president, Father Abdou Abu Kasm, told Reuters.

"Those things are difficult for us to accept, even if it's supposed to be
fiction. Lebanon is a country with many different religious communities and
there are still laws that ban articles that offend different communities."

The 2003 book's Arab publishers, Beirut-based Arab Scientific Publishers,
said the Arabic version had only been released about 10 days ago but was already proving popular.

"You can understand the Lebanese (cultural) mosaic, but that doesn't
really allow us to condone such a ban," company president Bassam Chebaro said.

A security source said Lebanon, home to Muslims, Christians and Druze, had
asked religious authorities for advice on potentially sensitive books for years.

"We have to work for public interest, banning anything that could worsen
sectarian prejudices or offend religions," he said.
 
BBC pulls controversial Popetown

BBC Three has decided not to show a cartoon set in a fictional Vatican over concerns it would offend Catholics.

The channel's controller said the comic impact of Popetown did "not outweigh the potential offence it will cause".

"There is a fine judgement line in comedy between the scurrilously funny and the offensive," Stuart Murphy said.

The BBC said it might recoup some costs through broadcast and video sales by BBC Worldwide and the series' creator, independent production firm Channel X.

Mr Murphy said shelving the ten episodes of Popetown had been an "extremely difficult and complex" decision to make.

I understand the world has changed since the series was originally commissioned
Alan Marke
Channel X

"I knew when we developed the series that there was risk involved but unfortunately, once we saw the finished series, it became clear that the programme fell on the wrong side of that line."

Channel X's managing director, Alan Marke, said: "I am incredibly disappointed about this decision as I am very proud of this project and all the talent involved.

"But I understand the world has changed since the series was originally commissioned and sympathise with the difficult decision the BBC has had to make."

The Catholic Bishops' Conference of England and Wales welcomed the decision to withdraw the programme.

The Right Reverend Crispian Hollis, Bishop of Portsmouth and spokesman for the conference said: "I am delighted that this has been withdrawn.

"It was obviously going to be a controversial programme which would have caused offence, not least among the Catholic community who hold the person of the Holy Father in the highest regard and affection.

"Any attempt to belittle or diminish his status as the leader of the Catholic Church is totally unacceptable, and not only to Catholics," he added.


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Published: 2004/09/23 17:09:48 GMT

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Blasphemy law to be scrapped ?

Hi

source:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1329823,00.html
Alan Travis, home affairs editor
Monday October 18, 2004
The Guardian

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Blasphemy law to be scrapped

Britain's ancient laws of blasphemy and blasphemous libel are likely to be
repealed under proposals being considered by the home secretary, David Blunkett. The move is being considered as part of a package that will include a new offence of incitement to religious hatred, in order to make clear that freedom of speech and the freedom to criticise religions will not be curtailed.

Home Office officials disclosed that Mr Blunkett was considering the abolition
of the blasphemy law at a recent meeting with the National Secular Society, in answer to their concerns about the creation of the new incitement law.

A Home Office spokesman confirmed that it was an option under active
consideration: "We are interested in whether the blasphemy laws should be
retained, extended or amended in any form."

Home Office ministers believe that the repeal of the blasphemy law will help
answer critics, including the comedian Rowan Atkinson, and make clear that the new incitement law will not bar criticism of religion, cartoonists' lampoons, or jokes about vicars and priests.

Mr Blunkett said three years ago that he favoured scrapping the common law
offences of blasphemy and blasphemous libel. "This particular provision has not been used for a very long time," he told MPs on the Commons human rights committee in 2001. "It is my own view that there will come a time when it will be appropriate for the blasphemy law to find its place in history."

Labour MPs who back the change have argued that the distinction is needed
because "blasphemy outrages people's sensibilities, whereas incitement endangers their material and physical well-being".

Keith Porteous Wood of the National Secular Society said that it would welcome any proposal to move away from the blasphemy law. "We have been fighting this for over 130 years," he said.

But the secularists are also concerned that a section of the 2001 emergency
anti-terrorism legislation comes close to creating an "all religions" blasphemy
law, allowing judges to impose a sentence of up to seven years if an offence is found to be aggravated by motives of religious hatred.

Mr Porteous Wood said that the offence, which is in line with similar heavier penalties for racially aggravated crimes, caused the society concern be cause of its impact on freedom of speech.

The Muslim Council of Britain has strongly welcomed the decision to introduce a new offence of incitement to religious hatred, saying it closed a loophole in the law exploited by far-right groups who had adapted their old racist rhetoric intovirulently anti-Muslim invective.

Mr Blunkett attempted to introduce the offence in 2001 emergency anti-terror
legislation, but was opposed in the House of Lords, where it was felt it was an inappropriate measure in a bill dealing with terrorism.

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Sioux tribe asks Crazy Horse saloon to change its name
By Cecile Brisson in Paris
17 October 2004

Descendants of the American Indian warrior Crazy Horse have appealed to operators of a famed Paris strip club named after him to change its name.

Alfred Red Cloud, a member of the Oglala Sioux tribe, delivered a letter requesting the name change to operators of the Crazy Horse saloon.

"The name is a sacred name to our people," Red Cloud told reporters outside the club near the Champs Elysées. "Nobody uses that name back home - even our own people."

Red Cloud was delivering a letter from Harvey White Woman, a descendant of Crazy Horse. It did not threaten legal action, but it said: "I want the young people of my tribe to remember him as a strong leader and warrior and not some nightclub in Paris."

The Oglala Sioux warrior fought against the US army in the 1870s.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=572931
 
As Mal said the blasphemy laws look like they're going to get repeiled and about blood time too!

One person's bad taste is, after all, another person's work of art.

An example of the Stupidity of the laws in James Kirkup's poem 'The Love that Dare to Speak it's mane.' An inportent work by a major poet and what happens? It get's banned under the blasphemy laws.

Silly, just silly and damn offensive for people who feal that orginised religion should be discussed and critisised.

http://annoy.com/history/doc.html?DocumentID=100045
 
'Blasphemous' BBC show rapped by governors

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more...

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http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1342257,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704

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'Blasphemous' BBC show rapped by governors

John Plunkett
Wednesday November 3, 2004

A BBC3 programme that featured a cross covered in excrement and described Jesus Christ as a "bell end" has been criticised by governors for causing offence to Christians - despite being cleared by the BBC complaints division.The comedy series, Cyderdelic, was described by one viewer as "blasphemous and gratuitous". It featured an exhibition in a local arts centre by one of the show's characters, Su, called "England is shit".

"The cross, one of the most central symbols of the Christian faith and
representative of the crucifixion, was shown covered in 'shit', as the show put it," said the viewer.

"Later in the same scene one of the central characters stated repeatedly that 'Jesus Christ is a bell end'."

The programme, which starred Marc Wootton, who also appeared in Channel 4's My Best Friend, was initially cleared by the BBC's programme complaints unit. But the viewer's complaint was upheld by the governors following an appeal.

"The committee appreciated that the programme was scheduled late in the evening on BBC3, a channel which is charged with providing experimental comedy, which may challenge the audience, and that the programme itself was a satire on the contemporary arts scene," said the governors' complaints committee in a
statement.

"However, members agreed with the complainant that the references about which he had complained were clearly in breach of the BBC producers' guidelines points 6.8 and 6.9."

The guidelines state that "deep offence will be caused by profane references or
disrespect, whether verbal or visual, directed at deities, scriptures, holy days
and rituals which are at the heart of various religions.

"The use of names [considered holy by believers, for example Jesus Christ or
God] as expletives in drama or light entertainment causes distress far beyond their dramatic or humorous value."Cyderdelic aired on BBC3 in March this year. "This is one of those
love-it-or-hate-it series, based mainly on where you stand on the comedian Marc Wootton," said one TV reviewer.

"The premise is a good one, sending up anarchists in an Ali G-type way. Wootton and his two pals play crusties with a mission, the first being to bring down McDonald's, and there is inspired Zelig-like footage of them at the G8 summit.

"But Wootton cannot resist confrontation in his humour, so the subtleties that could have made it truly interesting are steamrollered by overly brash antics that make you wince more than laugh."

The ruling follows the BBC's decision to drop the controversial satirical show
Popetown from its schedules after more than 6,000 Catholics complained before
they had even seen it.

The 10-part series had been completed at an estimated cost of £2.4m when the decision was made to drop it earlier this year.
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If the religious want the freedom to be religious, then they'd better put up with the fact that that also means that the non-religious should be equally free to take the piss.
 
'Bell-end' means 'the business end of a penis'.

As in, ' 'eard about Dave's Prince Albert gone bad ways?'
'Ay, 'e 'ad ter 'ave an ice-pack on 'is bell-end, poor sod! Missus pissed 'ersen' ' *

It is also a term of affectionate abuse. To call a man a bell-end is to accuse him of being a bit silly.

* actual overheard conversation
 
escargot said:
'Bell-end' means 'the business end of a penis'.

I'm suprised the dicktionary hasn't been on the phone given the quality of that definition!!! ;)

Coat? I believe the enraged mob is busy burning it.
 
Doubly damned

I mena it is an odd choice but not enough to get one's ecclesiastical panties in a knot over (unless they turned up naked and everyone gobbed on them).

Church fury at Damned's switch-on

A decision to invite punk rockers The Damned to switch on Cambridge city's Christmas lights has sparked controversy among church leaders.

Captain Sensible and David Vanian will replace the usual choice of Christopher Biggins for the switch-on at the Guildhall on Sunday.

The Reverend at St Martin's Church said the seventies band was not appropriate.

But guitarist Captain Sensible said: "They could have booked Cliff Richard. How boring would that have been?"

Anti Pope

Captain Sensible is due to join Father Christmas and city mayor Roger Dryden for the festive switch-on.

But the decision has led to fury among church leaders.

"It is not appropriate for Christmas," said Reverend Stephen Leeke, of St Martin's Church in Cambridge.

I did not anticipate it being controversial. I can imagine that being the case 20 years ago
Annette Joyce, Cambridge city centre manager

"They are a punk rock band with very doubtful lyrics."

He added that the council had not given much thought to the decision to invite the band - whose songs include Anti Pope.

"They should admit they made a mistake," he said.

Reverend Dr Peter Graves, of Wesley Methodist Church in Cambridge, said: "We should not give a major function over to a group that goes out of its way to deny what Christmas is about. "

He added the decision should have been handled more sensitively.

The council said the idea arose because the event coincided with The Damned's Cambridge tour date.

The band is set to play its 22nd tour date at Cambridge's The Junction after the switch-on.

'Criticism laughable'

City centre manager Annette Joyce said: "I did not anticipate it being a controversial switch-on. I can imagine that being the case if it was 20 years ago.

"It is actually a mixed cultural event that promotes what's happening in Cambridge. Some think it's blasphemous, others think don't be ridiculous."

Previous years have seen Christopher Biggins, Big Brother's PJ and Spencer and the annual pantomime cast flick the switch.

This year brass and jazz bands, Cambridge's Collegium Choir and the cast of Cinderella on Ice will also be participating in the day's events.

A spokeswoman for The Damned said the group found it laughable that the church has decided to criticise them for something as trivial as turning on Christmas lights.

She said they made no apology for their opinion or material.

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Published: 2004/11/17 14:44:07 GMT

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UK Christian Protesters Seek to Prosecute Gay Play

Hi


UK Christian Protesters Seek to Prosecute Gay Play
Fri Dec 10, 2004 04:12 AM ET


LONDON (Reuters) - A group of Christian protesters in Scotland has called on police to prosecute a theater company for blasphemy because it is putting on a play about a gay Jesus.

"If there is a blasphemy like this, Christians have to stand up," said Stephen Green of Christian Voice who protested outside a theater showing Terence McNally's controversial play "Corpus Christi" at St Andrews University.

"Jesus Christ is being portrayed here as a foul-mouthed, drunken, promiscuous homosexual and that is an insult to my faith," Green told BBC Radio.

But the play's director, Zsuzsi Lyndsay, defended the production: "He is not portrayed as a drunken foulmouth. He doesn't say one bad word throughout the play."

Christian Voice was not placated. It has formally lodged a complaint with police, arguing that the American playwright's work was blasphemous. No decision has been taken yet.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?storyID=7049089

Mal
 
Blasphemous plays about alleged prophets and founders of Religions, portraying them as drunken and debauched charlatans? I'm waiting for the one based on the life of L.Ron Hubbard, when this new 'anti-religious hatered' law comes in, just to see what happens.

:wow:
 
BBC goes ahead with Springer opera

Greets

BBC goes ahead with Springer opera

Stephen Bates, religious affairs correspondent
Thursday January 6, 2005
The Guardian

The BBC yesterday promised to press ahead with plans to transmit the award-winning West End show Jerry Springer - the Opera this Saturday in the face of concerted complaints by outraged Christians led by the Bishop of Manchester.

The Rt Rev Nigel McCulloch, who speaks about broadcasting on behalf of the Church of England, complained that the BBC had refused to show him a tape of the show.

He said: "Freedom of expression is not at issue here. My worry is that this programme is a major departure from the current high expectations of viewers regarding offensive material on a publicly funded channel.

"I remain hopeful that the programme is not as described and the BBC will be mindful not only of its duties and responsibilities, but also to its repeated commitments on taste, decency, harm and offence in the past."

The opera is based on the voyeuristic American television show where dysfunctional families parade their differences and sexual proclivities before the host Jerry Springer. It has long been shown on British television.

The fictionalised version, currently in the West End, has been praised by critics - the Guardian's Michael Billington described it as "a mega hit ... easily the hottest ticket in London. In the second half, it features the burning fires of hell where Springer is confronted by God and the devil.

The Radio Times has been boasting that the corporation's switchboard faces meltdown this weekend and claimed the show contained 3,168 uses of the word fuck and 297 references to cunt.

Ofcom, the broadcast regulator, said yesterday it had received 4,500 complaints, all referred to the corporation because it cannot act prior to transmission. The BBC said it had received 15,000 calls.

The complaints follow the success of a recent Roman Catholic campaign which helped to persuade the BBC to drop plans for the satirical cartoon Popetown, and Sikh demonstrations which caused the Birmingham Rep to abandon its production of the play Behzti on safety grounds.

There have been signs of attempts to orchestrate complaints by Christians. One email circulating this week says: "It is still worth making as much noise as we can about it. Programme makers know they cannot get away with being offensive against Islam; Christians need to let them know that we will not sit back and just let this sort of thing happen without making our views known."

The message claims the show depicts Jesus, Mary and God as "self-centred sexual deviants who give and receive extreme verbal abuse and a horrific series of blasphemies all in the name of comedy".

It calls on recipients to complain directly to Ofcom and to John Ploughman, the BBC's head of entertainment and comedy.

The Mediawatch group has complained and the Evangelical Alliance said it was planning to do so. It sent the Rev David Hilborn, its head of theology, to view the theatrical version.

In a statement, the corporation said: "BBC2 has a long tradition of presenting challenging work from the worlds of art and culture. [This] is a serious work that explores difficult ideas with a strong underlying moral purpose. It is a groundbreaking piece of musical theatre which has won many awards ... It will transmit well after the watershed with due warnings and preceded with a documentary which seeks to give background and context to the piece."

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1384102,00.html

mal
 
Jerry Springer

Here is a circular email I recieved on 5th of January (note they even get the day of the broadcast wrong):
> Below is a transcript of a television billing that is scheduled to be shown
> on BBC2 on 8th January 2005 (unless we get enough people to complain).
> Here is the complete information from a marketing dept about the BBC
> showing:
>
> BBC2 plans to broadcast Jerry Springer's "The Opera", immediately after
> Christmas. This musical, notorious for containing over 8000 expletives,
> depicts the characters of Jesus, Mary and God as self-centred sexual
> deviants who give and receive extreme verbal abuse and a horrific series of
> blasphemies, all in the name of comedy. The show's artistic director admits
> that it is a deliberate attack on "good taste", and the BBC concedes that
> the intended broadcast "pushes back the boundaries of taste and decency".
> Nevertheless, the show is scheduled to be transmitted without any cuts.
>
>
> If you strongly disagree with the BBC's plans to broadcast this material
> (and I honestly believe you will disagree). Please register your feelings
> with the BBC, this does make a difference - 500 calls are considered as a
> very significant complaint, so I am sure we can do this!
>
> Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or Tel
08700 100222
>
> Please forward this message to as many people as possible, because time is
> of the essence as the 8th Jan gets nearer. Let us also pray for the
> material that is now being presented as entertainment on the BBC, and let
> us make a difference by being salt and light.
>

I didn't know it was even going to be on until I got the email. I watched it, as I think iot is wrong to complain about something I have no knowledge of. Here is the reply I sent to the BBC and the sender of the email:
Having just seen "Jerry Springer the Opera" on BBC2 I fail to see quite what the fuss is about. The show did contain a fair number of expletives (though nothing like the 80,000 claimed by Media Watch) but it was shown after the watershed and with a warning before hand. As a Christian I was not offended and did not see anything particularly blasphemous about the show. The satire seemed to be more directed at society and the nature of reality television than at religion and was framed by well written music and excellent theatrical performances. I believe that as a whole the piece stands serious comparison with the Beggars Opera.

I hope the BBC will not be intimidated by the campaign Evangelical Christians are currently leading against it. I would not want to live in a country like the US where even the nipples on Renaissance frescos have to be blurred out lest they give offence.

Yes I would like to see Christian sensibilities respected, but not Puritan ones.
 
Jesus cartoonist 'jailed'

Greets

Jesus cartoonist 'jailed'

A cartoonist who portrayed Jesus as a pot-smoking hippy has been sentenced to six months in prison by a Greek court.

Austrian cartoonist Gerhard Haderer has been sentenced to six months imprisonment by a Greek court that ruled his Life of Jesus satire offends public decency and religious feelings /Europics

Austrian Gerhard Haderer's comic book The Life of Jesus shows the son of God crossing the Sea of Galilee naked on a surfboard.

It depicts the Last Supper as a drinking binge and the late Jimi Hendrix as a heavenly friend of Jesus.

The cartoonist, who did not attend the hearing, described the Greek court ruling as "absolutely scandalous".

Publisher Fritz Panzer said: "After all, Greece is a member of the European Union and, so you would think, not a religious state, in which an artist's freedom of expression is kicked to the ground."

Haderer's lawyers have appealed against the sentence which can only be imposed if Haderer travels to Greece.

The book cannot be sold in Greek shops until legal proceedings have been completed.

The case against Haderer was started after the Greek Orthodox Church submitted a complaint when the volume first appeared in Greece in February 2003.

At the time Athens public prosecutors ordered all copies of the book to be seized.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1253726.html

mal
 
Fri, January 21, 2005

Holy rollers stopped

Used pages from Bibles to make their cigarettes
By FRANK LANDRY, LEGISLATURE REPORTER

Holy smokes! Inmates at Headingley Correctional Centre have had their prison-issued Bibles confiscated because too many pages were being ripped from the books and used as rolling papers.

The jail is supposed to be smoke free.

"We're a little bit surprised (inmates) would go to such lengths to try and make a home-made cigarette," said Cathy Sandney, the jail's superintendent.

Sandney said Bibles used to be available for inmates in the living quarters of the prison -- including cell blocks, dorms and common areas. About two weeks ago the chaplains asked for the books to be removed after it was learned Bibles were being defaced and pages were going up in smoke, she said.

Inmates wanting a copy of the Good Book must now ask for it from chaplains, who assess whether the Scriptures will be read or burned, Sandney said.

Tory justice critic Kelvin Goertzen said he finds burning Bibles offensive, but taking away the scriptures is not the answer.

Goertzen said Justice Minister Gord Mackintosh should have hired additional staff to crack down on prison puffers when Headingley and other provincial jails went smoke free in 2003.

"It's a foolish NDP government system where you can get crack pipes on the street for free if you're a cocaine addict but you can't have access to Bibles in prison anymore," Goertzen said.

SUPPORTS CRACKDOWN

Mackintosh declined to comment on the situation at Headingley, saying he was unfamiliar with what's been going on. A spokesman later said Mackintosh supports the crackdown.

The Winnipeg Sun first reported in December inmates in Manitoba's provincial jails were getting around a smoking ban by making "tobacco" from nicotine chewing-pieces and used tea leaves.

Rolling papers are fashioned from pages ripped out of Bibles, apparently because the paper is thin and burns well.

Sandney said guards have never caught an inmate puffing on a holy smoke, but defaced Bibles and a spike in tea bag sales is evidence it's happening. If an inmate is nabbed, they could be forced to pay for the book or even be charged for damaging government property, she said.

Goertzen said tougher sanctions are needed to discourage inmates from smoking.

Headingley inmate Robert Mayo said the jail's policy is an assault on his religious freedom.

Mayo, who is awaiting trail for a violent home invasion, said many prisoners are afraid to ask for copies because they will be ridiculed by other inmates. He's been lending out a personal copy.

"If you take away the written word of the Lord, where else is there to turn?" Mayo said.

Graham Stewart, executive director of the John Howard Society of Canada -- a prisoners' rights group -- said it seems the provincial jail had no choice but to implement the Bible ban.

"We know chaplains have very few resources in prisons -- practically none," Stewart said. "If this was becoming a significant cost factor than they're doing what they have to do to preserve that resource."


Winnipeg Sun
 
Venue Cancels Metal Band's Appearance


Feb 2, 6:51 PM (ET)

INGLEWOOD, Calif. (AP) - Call it silence of the Lamb. The church-owned Great Western Forum has canceled an April 9 concert appearance by the heavy metal band Lamb of God because church leaders were offended by the group's previous name, Burn the Priest.

"We do owe something to our congregants. A band formerly known as Burn the Priest caused us pause. We have to draw the line somewhere," said Marc Little, general counsel for the Faithful Central Bible Church, which owns the Forum, the former home of the Los Angeles Lakers.

The band was set to appear with Grammy-nominated Slipknot as part of the Subliminal Verses Tour. (Slipknot and other acts in the tour are still scheduled to perform.)

In a statement on the band's Web site, drummer Chris Adler called the church's decision "a bit ridiculous."

"If they had taken the time to look into what we do and who we are as a band, I don't think they would have made the same decision," he told The Associated Press.

"They have made it clear that they do not want us because of our name, our show and our crowd," Adler said. "The word from the powers that be is that Lamb of God is not the wholesome family fun that the good people of Los Angeles deserve."

The band took the name Lamb of God in 2000 after performing under the name Burn the Priest from 1994 to '99. The band dumped the earlier name because it "put us into a corner we didn't want to be in," Adler said.

"So we went with something just as strange but, I guess, in the other way. So to have this kind of backlash is strange," he added.

The band has had people show up at their concerts to protest the band name. But Adler said the band has never been banned from a venue.

But considering recent events, including the nightclub shooting of guitarist Darryl "Dimebag" Abbott, Adler said he wasn't too surprised by the action.

"I really can't believe it. But maybe it's a new day in what we are finding out will be allowed and what will be censored," he said.

Lamb of God was excited about the Forum date because metal bands do not typically play such large venues.

The band's major label debut, "New American Gospel," was released in 2000. Their 2004 release, "Ashes of the Wake," garnered critical buzz for its political content. The album's instrumental title track contains a sound bite of a soldier talking about the killings in Iraq.

The band intends to perform in Los Angeles and is fielding other offers.

"There are plenty of venues that will welcome us," he said. "We're looking forward to back out there and playing for the fans."

Source
 
Greets

Milan bans Da Vinci parody

Sophie Arie in Rome
Friday February 4, 2005
The Guardian

Scantily clad women help sell cars. And there's nothing wrong with using the odd man in a G-string to advertise shoes.

But when a clothes company tried presenting a group of well-dressed women in a Last Supper style pose, their poster campaign was banned in Milan.

The poster, by French fashion house Marithé and François Gribaud, is a version of Leonardo da Vinci's work with an almost all-female cast. Angelic-looking women clad in the company's "casual chic" pose around a long table as Christ and his apostles. One man, John the Baptist, sits on a woman's lap, his torso bare and jeans riding low.

The poster has been plastered on walls, billboards and magazines in New York and Paris for weeks. In Milan, where Leonardo's fresco is preserved and the influence of the Vatican is never far away, city authorities have banned it.

Their decision follows a ruling by the city advertising watchdog last month. This Last Supper "inevitably recalls the very foundations of the Christian faith", said the Istituto di Autodisciplina Pubblicitaria. "This kind of image, with a high concentration of theological symbols, cannot be recreated and paro died for commercial ends without offending the religious sensitivities of at least part of the population."

"One of the women apostles is kissing the naked torso of a man, which just makes the imitation more offensive. As does the use of Christian symbols like the dove, the chalice and the position of the fingers of the female Christ."

The company says the image is not offensive but a tribute to women. It was inspired by Dan Brown's bestseller The Da Vinci Code, which suggests that the figure of John the Baptist in Da Vinci's masterpiece is actually Mary Magdalen in disguise.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1405515,00.html

mal
 
According to the Messages received by people around the world during Apparitions of the Virgin Mary, we are in the last stages of the Battle of Good against Evil on the earth - She says that we will see evil expanding like never before (as we see), but Good (God) will ultimately win, and the evil will be destroyed. Blasphemy - "evil-speaking" - increases in these times. The Virgin Mary says, "Satan knows his time is short, so he is doing all he can to destroy Creation and take souls to Hell." Hatred of religion in general - whether Christian or other - is seen like never before by "the forces that be", especially by those with control over the media. Evil likes to speak loudly via the media, as it makes its rounds of nurturing its anti-God agenda around the world with money and worldly power. "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."
 
laci said:
Hatred of religion in general - whether Christian or other - is seen like never before by "the forces that be", especially by those with control over the media.


There's a lot of hatred coming from religion too.

'Seen like never before' rubbish, persecution of Christians in ancient Rome to start with and massacres and pogroms of members of all religions ever since by members of other religions and by avowedly atheistic regimes.

As far as doomsayers are concerned now is always the worst time.

*Edited to remove easy point scoring comment*
 
I agree with Timble. The Fundamentalist Christian Right (and laci, I understand you are not their spokesperson!) has always played up centuries-old undercurrents of religious persecution. In the meantime, they have spared no effort at increasing social control, using churches as politcal bully pulpits and employing spam generators like Focus On Family to create hysterical non-events and apply considerable political pressure. These are the people that believe gay marriage to be the worst threat to our lives.

It's useful to remember that, even as Roman persecution was at its most gruesome and widespread, Second Century Christians were most virtiolic only to fellow sects.
 
Cartoonist faces Greek jail for blasphemy

Krysia Diver in Stuttgart
Wednesday March 23, 2005
The Guardian

The Life of Jesus, cartoon by Gerhard Haderer
An illustration from Gerhard Haderer's satirical book The Life of Jesus. Photo: AP


He meant it as a piece of religious satire, a playful look at the life of Jesus. But Gerhard Haderer's depiction of Christ as a binge-drinking friend of Jimi Hendrix and naked surfer high on cannabis has caused a furore that could potentially land the cartoonist in jail.

Haderer did not even know that his book, The Life of Jesus, had been published in Greece until he received a summons to appear in court in Athens in January charged with blasphemy.

He was given a six-month suspended sentence in absentia, but if he loses his appeal next month his sentence could be increased to two years.

Haderer's book is the first to be banned in Greece for more than 20 years, and he is the first artist to fall prey of the European arrest warrant system since it was introduced in June 2002.

Yesterday in Vienna, a group of prominent writers and poets called a press conference to draw attention to the plight of Haderer, an Austrian, whose case they claim is crucial to the freedom of international artists.

"It is unbelievable that a person can write a book in his home country and be condemned and threatened with imprisonment by another," said Nikki Conrad, a human rights expert who organised yesterday's press conference. "But he is not going to just sit back and accept this injustice. He is prepared to take this to the European court of human rights. When Gerhard first got the summons he thought it was a joke. But now he is starting to get a bit nervous."

Mr Conrad added that a 1,000-signature petition of international artists, signed by people including the Nobel prize winner Elfriede Jelinek, would be delivered to the EU within the next two weeks.

"This campaign is crucial for the future freedom of international artists. Haderer is unique and situations like this will inhibit his artistic style," said the poet Gerhard Ruiss.

The Austrian comedian Hubert Kramar, who is next week due to star in a new satirical play about Christ, turned up to the press conference dressed as Jesus. "We are supposed to be living in a democratic society. Greece is in Europe and the whole idea of the European Union is that everything is supposed to be more open. But what happened to Haderer is scaring artists like me," he said.

Haderer's 40-page book has been already published in seven countries, including Germany, where 100,000 copies have been sold. Well known in Germany for his weekly illustrations in the news magazine Stern, he is to appeal against his six-month sentence in Athens on April 13.

Source (with picture)
 
Police: Boys Urinated In Holy Water, Vandalized Church

POSTED: 12:52 pm EDT July 8, 2005

ROCHESTER, N.Y. -- Someone urinated in the holy water at a suburban Rochester, N.Y., Catholic church.

Four local teens have been charged with that and other vandalism.

Monroe County sheriff's deputies said the teenagers smashed wine bottles against the walls, left bicycle skid marks on the carpet, emptied the fire extinguishers and burned cigarette holes in the Saint Pious X Church.

The damage is estimated at $17,000.

Charged are 18-year-old Dan Seklar, 17-year-old Richard DeCarolis, 16-year-old Michael Street and a 15-year-old who is being charged as a juvenile. All are charged with burglary and criminal mischief, both felonies.

The boys have been released to their parents.

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Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press.

www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4699468/detail.html

More details:

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0708052church1.html
 
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