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Isnt that a coincidence? meeting an old friend on a messageboard.
Friend he was not. Just a ignorant prick i knew. unfortunately.
Isnt that a coincidence? meeting an old friend on a messageboard.
Adrian Veidt said:Of course they will take money to do that sort of thing, they have no other way to get money. And are so bereft of any form of dignity or self respect that they are prepared to do these things.
Adrian Veidt said:Or alternatively, we could stop rationalising that somehow getting a person to mutilate themselves for the pleasure of other people is for their own good. To try and equate that with doing a low paying job that you don't particularly like is unbelievable.
By the logic you are using it would be wrong to put child pornographers, or people who arrange dogfights, out of business because they need the money.
You don't combat an evil in society by condoning an even greater one.
mrchopper said:Again my point is, most Bums were drug addicts before they became homeless, they new what they were doing and they deserve anything they get. if that means more exploitation!
Al Hirt said:Adrian. You sound like your life is in a mess. I hope it gets better for you soon.
However in mrchoppers defence I dont think he was emplying that ALL homeless people are drug adicts and alcoholics. The ones in the bum fight video are.
If they want to take the money then why shouldnt they? Prostitues take money for allowing themselves to be violated for someones entertainment so why cant they?
Adrian Veidt said:Sorry Al, he didn't have any in-depth background to any of the people on that video. If he did it was just on the word of the people exploiting them. He made a judgement based on his own prejudice, and tried to defend his own callous prurient nature by saying that all the people who were drug addicts and alcoholics were abused. Further, he implied that just because you are a drug addict or an alcoholic you deserve to be abused.
He may be the perfect and shining example of humanity to which we all aspire, but most of us aren't. He sickens me.
mrchopper said:when they first smoked an E.
Adrian Veidt said:Sorry Chop but no. Your first assertion was that homeless people were addicts and therefore deserved what they got. The first argument you made was about drug addiction.
Always a question I've never understood. Why is taking drugs like marijuana and opium illegal? These are naturally occurring substances. Why?
Adrian Veidt said:If only the world were that simple. The good guys are always honest and true. The bad guys are obviously evil and wear black hats.
Grow up and live in the real world. People get sucked into situations that they can't control. Not everyone has a home and a wife to go home to. Some people live their lives the best they know how. And try and stop the pain in any way available. To judge and condemn them for that is disgusting at best.
Ok, there are a very small minority who choose to live that way, but the majority don't. Try to overcome the easy prejudices which enable you to sleep at night and look at the real world. People hurt. People are in pain. People get thrust into situations beyond their control. It isn't their fault, they escape from the shit that is life in any way they can.
mrchopper said:i have no problem with the homless just addicts!!!
Many factors influence a person’s initial drug use. Personality characteristics, peer pressure, and psychological stress can all contribute to the early stage of drug abuse. These factors are less important as drug use continues and the person repeatedly experiences the potent pharmacological effects of the drug. This chemical action, which stimulates certain brain systems, produces the addiction, while other psychological and social factors become less and less important in influencing the individual’s behavior. When the pharmacological action of a drug dominates the individual’s behavior and the normal psychological and social control of behavior is no longer effective, the addiction is fully developed. This self-perceived "loss of control" is a common feature of drug addiction and reflects the biological nature of the problem.
Pinklefish said:Ok, so they did one stupid thing when they go into it,
Adrian Veidt said:Life is hard and sometimes you get a tough break butyour not trying to tell me Adrian that if you did end up on the street that you would become a heroin addict? Heroin by the way is a natural substance, your views on how it is natural and shouldnt be wrong is totally out of order in my opinion. (Heroin is the reason why most of these people your trying to defend are on the streets in the first place)
If you're stupid enough to get pressured into drug addiction, then you're probably stupid enough to run face-first into a brick wall for 5 quid
Marion said:I wasn't fearmongering .