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Carl Higdon's Bizarre Encounter (Wyoming, 1974)

bob61

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Nice find, Bob61! A good read, it has a hint of good old B-movies to it (to me at least!)
 
Thanks - please also go back and edit this one (and any others the Mods haven't found yet ;) )
 
Great ufo tale...one of my favorites from the old days. It's mentioned in many old ufo books.
What are we to make of tales like this? Do we assume the storyteller is simply lying, crazy, or what?
Couldn't he have made up a simpler tale if he was covering up playing hooky? The details themselves seem to
speak out against a simple hoax. But are we to believe that weird aliens actually kidnapped him?
It is indeed a strange universe.
;)
 
That's a good link @bob61 I'm only just getting into UFO material.
 
Great ufo tale...one of my favorites from the old days. It's mentioned in many old ufo books.
What are we to make of tales like this? Do we assume the storyteller is simply lying, crazy, or what?
Couldn't he have made up a simpler tale if he was covering up playing hooky? The details themselves seem to
speak out against a simple hoax. But are we to believe that weird aliens actually kidnapped him?
It is indeed a strange universe.
;)
it's a strange universe indeed & were all along for the :abduct: ride
 
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"In 1974, Carl Higdon met a strange, floating humanoid in the woods, and was taken inside a strange see-through structure, only to be literally dropped back down to Earth. Higdon’s case is a classic UFO abduction, but it may also shed light on other unexplained disappearances and deaths around the world."


The book on this case that his wife wrote is now available on Kindle:

https://amzn.eu/d/1mQ26pp
 
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"In 1974, Carl Higdon met a strange, floating humanoid in the woods, and was taken inside a strange see-through structure, only to be literally dropped back down to Earth. Higdon’s case is a classic UFO abduction, but it may also shed light on other unexplained disappearances and deaths around the world."


The book on this case that his wife wrote is now available on Kindle:

https://amzn.eu/d/1mQ26pp
What a strange case. I hadn't come across this one before.
The aliens look like they're straight out of Star Trek.
 
What a strange case. I hadn't come across this one before.
The aliens look like they're straight out of Star Trek.
A write-up here:

"Carl spent what felt like days on Astra, learning about their advanced technology, their harmonious way of life, and their deep connection with the natural world. He was treated with kindness and respect, and he marveled at the Astrans' wisdom."

https://original.newsbreak.com/@blo...sterious-alien-abduction-claim-of-carl-higdon

Once again, we are faced with classic fairy-lore (little people, fey for etc) in which the faeries take a human to their world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairyland

https://ericwedwards.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/the-origin-and-lore-of-fairies-and-fairy-land/

etc.
 
A write-up here:

"Carl spent what felt like days on Astra, learning about their advanced technology, their harmonious way of life, and their deep connection with the natural world. He was treated with kindness and respect, and he marveled at the Astrans' wisdom."

https://original.newsbreak.com/@blo...sterious-alien-abduction-claim-of-carl-higdon

Once again, we are faced with classic fairy-lore (little people, fey for etc) in which the faeries take a human to their world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairyland

https://ericwedwards.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/the-origin-and-lore-of-fairies-and-fairy-land/

etc.
'Astra'? Oh dear, that kills it for me.
 
A write-up here:

"Carl spent what felt like days on Astra, learning about their advanced technology, their harmonious way of life, and their deep connection with the natural world. He was treated with kindness and respect, and he marveled at the Astrans' wisdom."

https://original.newsbreak.com/@blo...sterious-alien-abduction-claim-of-carl-higdon

Once again, we are faced with classic fairy-lore (little people, fey for etc) in which the faeries take a human to their world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairyland

https://ericwedwards.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/the-origin-and-lore-of-fairies-and-fairy-land/

etc.
Who were the three guys in Canada who had a missing time episode while camping and then (through regression) talked about going up into a craft where they were examined on?

I thought that was a great one until they admitted years later they had made it up.
 
Who were the three guys in Canada who had a missing time episode while camping and then (through regression) talked about going up into a craft where they were examined on?

I thought that was a great one until they admitted years later they had made it up.
Allagash:

Four men fishing

https://unsolved.com/gallery/allagash-abductees/

Or...

Cisco Grove:

Three men bow hunting

https://search.worldcat.org/title/A...-the-Cisco-Grove-UFO-encounter/oclc/772529701

Quite a few 2 - 4 men out in the wilds fishing/hunting/lumberjacking and getting abducted/chased up a tree by aliens
 
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"In 1974, Carl Higdon met a strange, floating humanoid in the woods, and was taken inside a strange see-through structure, only to be literally dropped back down to Earth. Higdon’s case is a classic UFO abduction, but it may also shed light on other unexplained disappearances and deaths around the world."


The book on this case that his wife wrote is now available on Kindle:

https://amzn.eu/d/1mQ26pp

“Higdon started his hunt at ~1600 hrs, and walked a mile into the woods on 25.10.74.”

Sunrise/sunset times for Cheyenne, Wyoming in 1974.

To me, this is deeply suspicious. Higdon left himself only about 90 minutes before sunset to locate, shoot, gralloch and recover a beast weighing probably 750 to 1,000lbs. On his own. In the snow.

I have recovered a red stag weighing ~250 lbs on my own, dragging it less than 1,000 yards in good weather, and the effort nearly broke me.

l call :bs:

maximus otter
 
Allagash was the one I was thinking of.
This is revealing:

"Rak also said during the August 31 interview that he and other members of the group had used recreational drugs on the night of the alleged abduction. “I remember Jack brought some Afghan temple ball (hashish) with him to share with the rest of us,” he said. “Yeah, we were definitely stoned when we went out on the lake just before we got that sighting.”"

https://thecounty.me/2016/09/28/community/how-much-of-a-famed-1976-ufo-abduction-is-true-3/
 
This is revealing:

"Rak also said during the August 31 interview that he and other members of the group had used recreational drugs on the night of the alleged abduction. “I remember Jack brought some Afghan temple ball (hashish) with him to share with the rest of us,” he said. “Yeah, we were definitely stoned when we went out on the lake just before we got that sighting.”"

https://thecounty.me/2016/09/28/community/how-much-of-a-famed-1976-ufo-abduction-is-true-3/
https://thecounty.me/2016/09/21/community/how-much-of-1976-ufo-abduction-is-true/

Here's part 1 of that article, which isn't particularly easy to find on the website.

Rak's current position seems to be that he definitely saw a UFO, but that he is doubtful of what came out under hypnotic regression and Rak himself had no such recall even post hypnosis.
 
https://thecounty.me/2016/09/21/community/how-much-of-1976-ufo-abduction-is-true/

Here's part 1 of that article, which isn't particularly easy to find on the website.

Rak's current position seems to be that he definitely saw a UFO, but that he is doubtful of what came out under hypnotic regression and Rak himself had no such recall even post hypnosis.
Familiar story...!

In a sense I can't blame 1970s Ufologists for using hypnosis as there was an aura around it back then and it was given added credibility when the Police used it (don't hear much about that anymore).

But research into hypnosis tells us a different story:

"Although there is a widespread belief that hypnosis produces accurate memories, researchers found that hypnosis does not work well as a memory-recovery method. In addition, people who have been hypnotized tend to feel confident that their memories are accurate, contributing to the persistence of false memories"

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea... widespread,the persistence of false memories.

There are a multitude of peer-reviewed research articles, here is just one:

"False Memories in Therapy and Hypnosis Before 1980"

https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2015-13974-001.pdf

I am certainly with Jenny Randles in her eventual conclusion that the use of hypnosis in UFO cases simply conjured up false memories full of fantasises originating from earthly science-fiction. Even in the Betty & Barney Hill case there were significant differences in their respective description of the aliens which were subsequently 'ironed out' under pressure from Ufologists:

Past Pictures of the Week Aug 20 thru Oct 22, 2012.jpg




With hindsight, I feel it is a great shame and a lost opportunity that over the decades there were genuine accounts of unknown arial and landed craft/objects/other that interacted with the witnesses and may have been some unknown natural phenomenon, paranormal or alien but the use of hypnosis to retrieve false memories took the focus away from the conscious recall of the witnesses and into the futile realms of alien abduction. Had Ufologists stuck to their actual conscious recall of events then who knows, we may have had an answer to the UFO mystery before now...
 
The other danger with hypnotic regression is that by providing apparent validation, it draws the witness into a pattern of defending the 'reality' of their experiences, which in some cases seems to have led people into more and more elaborate versions of their story. You can perhaps see this with people like Penniston at Rendlesham, Parker at Pascagoula etc. No doubt this feeds into the sense of betrayal Rak's three fellow witnesses now seem to feel.

Conversely I'm always impressed when people retain a healthy scepticism towards their own hypnotic regression, like Alan Godfrey, or Rak for that matter.
 
So, we haven't had a decent alien abduction UFO case here in the UK since the 1990s, so is this because we no longer have Ufologists pushing witnesses towards hypnosis...?

Take the 2010 Roy Shaw Exmouth UFO:

"Lesser Known UK Flying Saucer/Contact Case:
The Phear Park Bowling Green Apparition, Exmouth, Devon, UK - 2010

"During the night of the 12th of February, 2010, lifelong paranormal skeptic Roy Shaw was walking his dog in Devon, England. Wandering through the quiet streets of his neighborhood, he began to approach his local Lawn Bowling club, when he was startled by an odd object hovering high up in the sky. Hazy and distant at first, it began to descend slowly and move nearer in his direction. Circular in shape, it suspended itself above the bowling club and Shaw entered the grounds to get a better look at the object. He watched in amazement as it zigzagged around, before landing on the far side of the green.

He was astounded to make out a 100ft long space craft, with blue and red lights streaming along it’s underside. At this point a 4ft high white apparition exited from the ship and floated towards him across the lawn. ‘It was about 4ft high and seemed to be translucent and moved very slowly towards us. I was transfixed because it made a droning noise, which sounded like “my, my” repeated over and over’ he later told newspapers. His dog, Sydney – an animal he stated is normally very placid – began growling and bearing its teeth at the spirit. At this point, Mr Shaw ran for his life, with such haste he twisted his ankle in the process. Another dog walker in the area claims to have seen the ship dart off into the sky at a 45 degree angle."



phear_park_sketch_ufo.jpeg


http://www.beamsinvestigations.org/The Phear Park Bowling Green Apparition, Exmouth, Devon, 2010.htm

It is an intriguing case although it was suggested he saw Police vehicles under poor visibility (red and blue lights) and that the alien was a police dog (hence his dog's reaction, however I don't recall the Police stating they were there that night.

Anyway, here we have a credible and skeptical witness who was prepared to go on the record about a possible CE3,. I was in Exeter at the time and this made all the local and regional newspapers and even inspired a subsequent hoax*, but he has never recanted or elaborated on what he experienced.

Now imagine a self-proclaimed Ufologist had suggested there was missing time (10 minutes will do) and that he should go under hypnosis? I bet there would have been books written on the "Phear Park Alien Abduction" and it would probably have changed Ray's life forever (and not for the better)

*Practical joke by pub regulars on an elderly regular. After he left the pub late one night they hid behind a hedge and pretended to be aliens talking to him
 
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So, we haven't had a decent alien abduction UFO case here in the UK since the 1990s, so is this because we no longer have Ufologists pushing witnesses towards hypnosis...?

Take the 2010 Roy Shaw Exmouth UFO:

"Lesser Known UK Flying Saucer/Contact Case:
The Phear Park Bowling Green Apparition, Exmouth, Devon, UK - 2010

"During the night of the 12th of February, 2010, lifelong paranormal skeptic Roy Shaw was walking his dog in Devon, England. Wandering through the quiet streets of his neighborhood, he began to approach his local Lawn Bowling club, when he was startled by an odd object hovering high up in the sky. Hazy and distant at first, it began to descend slowly and move nearer in his direction. Circular in shape, it suspended itself above the bowling club and Shaw entered the grounds to get a better look at the object. He watched in amazement as it zigzagged around, before landing on the far side of the green.

He was astounded to make out a 100ft long space craft, with blue and red lights streaming along it’s underside. At this point a 4ft high white apparition exited from the ship and floated towards him across the lawn. ‘It was about 4ft high and seemed to be translucent and moved very slowly towards us. I was transfixed because it made a droning noise, which sounded like “my, my” repeated over and over’ he later told newspapers. His dog, Sydney – an animal he stated is normally very placid – began growling and bearing its teeth at the spirit. At this point, Mr Shaw ran for his life, with such haste he twisted his ankle in the process. Another dog walker in the area claims to have seen the ship dart off into the sky at a 45 degree angle."



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http://www.beamsinvestigations.org/The Phear Park Bowling Green Apparition, Exmouth, Devon, 2010.htm

It is an intriguing case although it was suggested he saw Police vehicles under poor visibility (red and blue lights) and that the alien was a police dog (hence his dog's reaction, however I don't recall the Police stating they were there that night.

Anyway, here we have a credible and skeptical witness who was prepared to go on the record about a possible CE3,. I was in Exeter at the time and this made all the local and regional newspapers and even inspired a subsequent hoax*, but he has never recanted or elaborated on what he experienced.

Now imagine a self-proclaimed Ufologist had suggested there was missing time (10 minutes will do) and that he should go under hypnosis? I bet there would have been books written on the "Phear Park Alien Abduction" and it would probably have changed Ray's life forever (and not for the better)

*Practical joke by pub regulars on an elderly regular. After he left the pub late one night they hid behind a hedge and pretended to be aliens talking to him

From the club’s own website:

Phear-Park-Map.jpg


Exmouth: WHAT THREE WORDS – famous.chip.villa

https://phearparkbowlingclub.co.uk/contact/

maximus otter
 
So, we haven't had a decent alien abduction UFO case here in the UK since the 1990s, so is this because we no longer have Ufologists pushing witnesses towards hypnosis...?

Take the 2010 Roy Shaw Exmouth UFO:

"Lesser Known UK Flying Saucer/Contact Case:
The Phear Park Bowling Green Apparition, Exmouth, Devon, UK - 2010

"During the night of the 12th of February, 2010, lifelong paranormal skeptic Roy Shaw was walking his dog in Devon, England. Wandering through the quiet streets of his neighborhood, he began to approach his local Lawn Bowling club, when he was startled by an odd object hovering high up in the sky. Hazy and distant at first, it began to descend slowly and move nearer in his direction. Circular in shape, it suspended itself above the bowling club and Shaw entered the grounds to get a better look at the object. He watched in amazement as it zigzagged around, before landing on the far side of the green.

He was astounded to make out a 100ft long space craft, with blue and red lights streaming along it’s underside. At this point a 4ft high white apparition exited from the ship and floated towards him across the lawn. ‘It was about 4ft high and seemed to be translucent and moved very slowly towards us. I was transfixed because it made a droning noise, which sounded like “my, my” repeated over and over’ he later told newspapers. His dog, Sydney – an animal he stated is normally very placid – began growling and bearing its teeth at the spirit. At this point, Mr Shaw ran for his life, with such haste he twisted his ankle in the process. Another dog walker in the area claims to have seen the ship dart off into the sky at a 45 degree angle."



View attachment 74645

http://www.beamsinvestigations.org/The Phear Park Bowling Green Apparition, Exmouth, Devon, 2010.htm

It is an intriguing case although it was suggested he saw Police vehicles under poor visibility (red and blue lights) and that the alien was a police dog (hence his dog's reaction, however I don't recall the Police stating they were there that night.

Anyway, here we have a credible and skeptical witness who was prepared to go on the record about a possible CE3,. I was in Exeter at the time and this made all the local and regional newspapers and even inspired a subsequent hoax*, but he has never recanted or elaborated on what he experienced.

Now imagine a self-proclaimed Ufologist had suggested there was missing time (10 minutes will do) and that he should go under hypnosis? I bet there would have been books written on the "Phear Park Alien Abduction" and it would probably have changed Ray's life forever (and not for the better)

*Practical joke by pub regulars on an elderly regular. After he left the pub late one night they hid behind a hedge and pretended to be aliens talking to him

Hypnotic regression no longer seems to be that prominent - maybe that's not a correct perception though. As I mentioned elsewhere some of the other Pascagoula witnesses have been regressed recently, with predictable 'turns out I was abducted too' results.

Anyway this April 1993 MUFON journal posted in another thread by @EnolaGaia gives a good summary of the Allagash case as investigated by Raymond Fowler:

https://kupdf.net/download/fowlerth...ournalapril-1993_59a3a220dc0d604a27568ee1_pdf

It's interesting to read the whole issue as a snapshot of the very last years of pre-Internet ufology, and yes everything does seem very abduction-focused.
 
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