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it seems Holand is in the grip of a Chicken flue epidemic (remeber the one in Hong Kong during which all the chickens in HK were killed and 6 people died) It is transmisible to humans and its rather nasty.... and Portugease Chickens have just been found to contain banned antibiotics/growth prmoters that are known to casue Cancer...... two facts i just foun dout from Farming today early morning flu feaver induced insomnia is a terrible thing!



so watch the chickens!



interestingly it was also noted that Uk imported about 100 tons of chickens per year from Portugal whih is " a drop in the Ocean" compaired to the tonnage imported form Brazil and Tieland....
 
From What I have read over the last few years, with the transgenic diseases (Flu mainly) in the news and scientists trying to find the remains of spanish flu in well preserved bodies. That the medical establishment are expecting and perhaps we are overdue for a really bad Flu strain to wipe out a few million of us, at the very least. I also read Chickens and Pigs being the most likely vectors for something Nasty.
 
Not Chicken Flu... Fowl Pest.

It's not 'Chicken Flu' folks. Which is a potentially lethal variety of the influenza virus.

It's Fowl Pest which is quite literally, a plague on feathered livestock of all sorts. Especially in a country where various kinds of bird are raised as livestock, as intensively as in Holland. 100million chickens alone. :(

So, Beakboo, Fallen and Spooky better keep their distance until I'm out of quarantine.

Fowl Pest is not dangerous to unfeathered humans.
 
Re: Not Chicken Flu... Fowl Pest.

AndroMan said:
It's not 'Chicken Flu' folks. Which is a potentially lethal variety of the influenza virus.

Fowl Pest is not dangerous to unfeathered humans.
I stand corrected. It is 'Avian influenza.' Though not normally caught by humans, it can happen.

A thousand apologies, Jon!

I Feel a bit of a twit, actually. :blush:
 
Re: Re: Not Chicken Flu... Fowl Pest.

AndroMan said:
'Avian influenza.' Though not normally caught by humans, it can happen.

yep sounds nasty cos i got flu at mo im thinking perhapse i caught it off a friends chickens ..lol... narr child realted plague.
 
Are the Words Vogel and Fowl, related, d'ye think?

They call it 'vogel pest' over here, 'bird plague' and I was only half listening to the radio at the time. :blah:
 
bird plagues...i was talkin to an Mp the other day and she was cattign about badgers and Tb in cattle , she reconed that there was a good chance that if the NUF stoped thier genicidal tendancies towards Badgers that birds would be found to spread TB anyway.... so farmers would then try to kill all of them too!
 
Yeah we've got chickens and last year they caught some awful mites from the wild birds... i just hope they don't catch anything worse than that.

i've heard that birds are at risk from West Nile Virus too...:(

OUr featered friends seem to be getting a rough ride at the mo ..
 
New 'flu strain?

A cluster of child deaths from normally mild symptoms-

Fatal 'flu in Virginia, USA


If there is a new, fatal strain of 'flu, it will begin like this.
 
I'm not sure if this belongs in the crypto forum. It sounds totally like a UL, but it's true. For almost thirty-five years there's been a colony of chickens living under an off ramp in LA. One of the busiest sections of road in the US. Supposedly a poultry truck overturned in the late sixties and the chicks became truly free range. Any other stories of out-of-place animals living in very urban spaces? Not a one-off, but an actually sucsessful breeding population. Wild boars in Hyde Park anyone?:D Coyotes in the Loop in Chicago? I'm going to be in la-la land later this year. Must check it out.
 
Coyotes in Chicago

There ARE coyotes in Chicago, or at least there were. MAybe 10 years ago they found a pregnant femal in Riis Park. Chicago also has a rabbit problem in Grant Park, and Grey Foxes living in one of the cemetaries (Graceland, I think).
It seems that the more the region grows, the more wildlife is noticed. My brother lives in darkest suburbia, and his Cairn terrier has been chasing foxes. Deer have always been a problem. When I lived there (about 10 years ago) it was common to see deer browsing in yards at night.
There are (or were) several population of Monk Parakeets in the Chicago area as well. The best-known are those near the University of Chicago. But there was a colony in Bensenville, and in Carol Stream.
 
There was a story in today's "Independent" about the feral rabbits and other animals that live in a city-centre park in Paris. Unfortunately i can't seem to find it on their website (searches for "paris" and "rabbits" found nothing relevant)... it was in their "travel" supplement, anyway.
 
DNA code reveals chicken odyssey

Scientists say they have unravelled the genetic code of the chicken, an evolutionary trek that began before the age of the dinosaurs and led to the emergence of the world's most important bird today.

The secrets of the chicken genome could lead to super-hens - new breeds which will lay more eggs, have more meat and be more resistant to disease than any poultry that has walked the earth.

There could be health benefits too, by helping the fight against bird flu, a disease that could threaten millions of people.

An international consortium took a DNA sample from the red jungle fowl (Latin name Gallus gallus), which is believed to be the wild ancestor of domestic chickens, and decrypted its code.

The draft, which appears in this week's issue of the British journal Nature, comprises about a billion base pairs, the "rungs" which make the ladder in the double helix of DNA.

Gallus gallus - the first bird to have its DNA code sequenced - has an estimated 20,000-23,000 genes, which puts the total in the same ballpark as that for Man, the authors say.

"About 60 per cent of the chicken protein-coding genes have human equivalents," says one of the researchers, Peer Bork of Germany.

Indeed, a closer scrutiny shows that humans and chickens - indeed, all vertebrates - shared a common ancestor around 310 million years ago, even before the dinosaurs emerged, they say.

Archaeopteryx, considered to be the first bird, popped up some 150 million years later.

Today, humans and chickens still share some sequences of DNA but the rest of our respective codes is different.

They have been sculpted by evolutionary pressures that ruthlessly weed out genes which hamper survival of the species.

In a parallel study, also published in Nature, gene sleuths compared the genome of Gallus gallus with three standard breeds of domestic chicken - a broiler, a layer and a Chinese silkie.

The scrawny, feisty Gallus and the chubby, passive broiler are so different that they might seem a species apart.

But genetically, they are astonishingly similar.

Variations in tiny stretches of code can make vast differences.

For example, a variation in just a single gene, GGA1, accounts for nearly a third of the difference in adult body weight between Gallus and the white leghorn breed, the study says.

Intensive poultry farming began about half a century ago, leading to the creation of highly specialised breeds, which - in sometimes controversial conditions - deliver more meat and eggs than any chickens in history.

Today, billions of chickens are raised and slaughtered each year.

Pinpointing useful genes and incorporating them safely into existing chicken breeds opens up exciting possibilities for feeding the world's fast-growing population.

Chicken breeding "represents one of the most remarkable examples of directed evolution," the main study, carried out by the International Chicken Genome Sequencing Consortium, says.

"Even after 50 years of intensive selection, annual genetic progress in production traits remains undiminished."

The chicken genome could also help the battle against avian influenza, the source of a health scare in South-East Asia.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) fears that if bird flu spreads among humans, it could mutate into a dangerous agent that could kill millions of people.

"We really sequenced the chicken to understand our own human genome, that was the big motivation," study co-author Ewan Birney of the European Bioinformatics Institute, Cambridge, told AFP.

"But it also gives us great tools to understand variations among chickens. We should be able to see which strains of chickens are transmitting more of the flu and are more susceptible to it, and precisely which part of that genome is perhaps responsible for that.

"If we found strains that are more at risk, we could advise people against raising them."

-AFP
Last Update: Thursday, December 9, 2004. 9:46am (AEDT)http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1261101.htm

Crikey! Super hens? Your classic rhode island red, but the size of Tyranosaurus Rex? (Imagine the omelets!)
:D
 
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Story

First there was Mike the Headless Chicken, a rooster that survived for 18 months after having its head lopped off with an ax. Now, western Colorado has a new chicken survival story, this one involving a man who claims he saved his fowl by giving it mouth-to-beak resuscitation.

Uegene Safken says one of the chickens in his young flock had gotten into a tub of water in the yard last week and appeared to have died.

Safken said he first swung the chicken by the feet to revive it. When that failed, he continued swinging and blowing into its beak.

"Then one eye opened. I thought it was an involuntary response," Safken said. The chicken's beak opened a little wider, and Safken started yelling at it: "You're too young to die!

"Every time I'd yell at him, he'd chirp," Safken said.

Mike the Headless Chicken survived a beheading in 1945 in Fruita, Colo. Afterward, Mike could go through the motions of pecking for food, and when he tried to crow, a gurgle came out. His owner put feed and water directly into Mike's gullet with an eyedropper.

Scientists examined the chicken and theorized Mike had enough of a brain stem left to live headless. He was a popular attraction until he choked to death on a corn kernel.
 
Officer, I can explain this, honestly. I was bringing him back to life.

OK, maybe he was from Walmart. The giblets, I can't explain. I guess somebody stole them. :( [/i]
 
feral chickens in hollywood

I live in the middle of Las Vegas.I put out bird feed for the wild finches and was working in my yard when the birds fled.I saw to my amazement a peregrine falcon!It was unmistakable.So I believe animals can adapt in cities.Several times before I would find feathers that I think now were from his kills.
 
Cassie, you'll find, if you keep your eyes open, that certain wild animals thrive in American urban environments. Various raptors do well in central cities because the skyscrapers provide cliff faces for them to nest on and also create wind currents, and they have abundant prey, in the form of rock doves (aka pigeons), house sparrows, and rats (every one an invasive species! Go raptors go!). Vultures and other scavengers do well for the same reason, with the added benefit of roadkill and restaurant trash bins. Bees hover around trash bins, too, attracted by the sugars in soda cans. If you have any green space and/or water, so much the better; and sewage treatment plants are prime wildlife watching territory.

From my 15th-floor office in San Antonio, I have seen merlins and mourning doves on my windowsill, watched white pelicans pretending to be flying saucers and monarch flying high during migration, observed a redtail (or possibly redshoulder) hawk observing his territory from the top of a neon sign, and regularly spotted herons (mostly great egrets) moving from one part of the River to another. Since I'm right on the Riverwalk, I'm constantly observing water birds at lunch time, and the river also supports fish, snakes, and turtles.

A lot of the time, the animals are making the best of a bad situation, and cities are still deadly for most animals, if only because they are so full of human beings. Tourists are dangerous to snakes locally, and the chief predator of mallard babies is the river barge, even though the drivers are careful. Every small bird migration that goes through a city loses birds to skyscrapers. But specific animals do just fine, and the number of species that live comfortably in conjunction with humans can be increased with a little judicious home and urban planning. A city that's more welcoming to wildlife is also more comfortable to live in for people. I

n Vegas, I suggest that if you really want to see critters, you should put a water feature in your yard. Most animals can get food anywhere. In the desert, water attracts things that live miles away, things you wouldn't ever expect to see.

Don't be upset when the skunks show up. They eat roaches.
 
There was a kestral that used to use my husbands office building to help it hunt, instead of catching pigeons in flight it would just herd them into the buildings windows then pick the stunned birds up off the ground.

There is (or was) a colony of walabees in the noorth west or england, supposedly escaped from a private colection somewhere, but were thriving.
 
Hmmm. As soon as I saw this thread title, alarm bells rang. Then I remembered! Terry Pratchett wrote a marvellous short story called Hollywood Chickens in the collection Knights of Madness (Edited by Peter Haining, publ. 2000 by Orbit, ISBN: 1-85723-958-X).

No mention of being sourced by UL. No hint of news item. Is it possible? An UL based on a short story? Shorely not! Not another Angel of Mons, a Berkley Square monster?
 
I'm pretty certain that there are feral dogs in Chicago, in some of the parks in the outskirts of the city. I tried to find an article or website about it but was only tangentially successful. I know I read an article about it here, but likely it is gone and archived by now if it was ever on line.
 
HelzAngel said:
There is (or was) a colony of walabees in the noorth west or england, supposedly escaped from a private colection somewhere, but were thriving.
True - there are wallabies living on the Staffs/Derbys border areas, and there are coypu in Norfolk and boar in Kent. Of course, these are all rural - as far as the original post goes, I can't think of too many obvious urban out-of-place animals in the UK, apart from the foxes in every town. Mind you, has anyone seen a kestrel recently that wasn't hovering over the side of a busy road or motorway? Where else do they live?
 
Stormkhan said:
Hmmm. As soon as I saw this thread title, alarm bells rang. Then I remembered! Terry Pratchett wrote a marvellous short story called Hollywood Chickens in the collection Knights of Madness (Edited by Peter Haining, publ. 2000 by Orbit, ISBN: 1-85723-958-X).

No mention of being sourced by UL. No hint of news item. Is it possible? An UL based on a short story? Shorely not! Not another Angel of Mons, a Berkley Square monster?

I've mislaid my copy of 'Tales From the Forbidden Planet' in which the story first appeared, but I'm almost certain that Terry mentions the UL in his preface.
 
Peripart said:
Mind you, has anyone seen a kestrel recently that wasn't hovering over the side of a busy road or motorway? Where else do they live?

I was quite surprised at something I overheard last time we stopped at the Cafe next to Chatsworth Farm Shop, there are beautiful panoramic views through large windows all along one wall, and as a kestral that'd been hovering over the field dived down and came back up with a large mouse one of the old dears who was sat by the window say "oh isn't that disgusting, you'd think they wouldn't let them kill things like that in sight of the restaurant"
 
A number of people around the United States have become sick with Salmonella after bringing backyard chickens indoors, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

And many of those people became ill from close encounters with their feathery friends, whether from having the birds in their homes, or nuzzling with them.

As of June 29, at least 181 people have come down with Salmonella during 2015, in four separate outbreaks spanning 40 states. Of the ill people who researchers reached for interviews, 86 percent reported having contact with baby chicks, ducklings or other live poultry. Many of those who had live poultry were keeping the chickens indoors as pets, or cuddling or kissing the animals. The live chicks came from multiple hatcheries in many different states, according to new data from the CDC.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/forbidden-love-dont-kiss-your-chickens-cdc-says/ar-AAd4SMo
 
Let's hope it hasn't gone further than heavy petting. Petting, geddit? Please yerselves...
 
You'll be up before the beak with that kind of mothercluckery.
 
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