Collapse of U.S. Economy Imminent

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Well, all we may be in fact seeing is a cutting away of certain amount of fat from the body of the markets rather than anything which may trigger a wide recession. The fact that various banks were able to flush the markets with funds shows there is still enough money around to keep things fluid. Perhaps in the long run it's a hiccup that will go some way in showing that such schemes aren't really worth investing in - which can only be a good thing.
 

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faith2faith said:
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It's a disaster of biblical proportions, and I'm fairly sure it will lead to a recession or even another depression.
Rains of fire and brimstone that blot entire cities off the map and turn people into pillars of salt, the loss of a nation's firstborn sons, universal floods and the seas turning to blood, whilst the sky rolls up like a parchment, those are disasters of Biblical proportions.

This is probably just the start of a Global Recession.
 
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faith2faith said:
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It's a disaster of biblical proportions, and I'm fairly sure it will lead to a recession or even another depression.
Rains of fire and brimstone that blot entire cities off the map and turn people into pillars of salt, the loss of a nation's firstborn sons, universal floods and the seas turning to blood, whilst the sky rolls up like a parchment, those are disasters of Biblical proportions.

This is probably just the start of a Global Recession.
Floods, check.

Seas turning to blood - well we have reports of prehistoric purple algae turning up feeding off raw sewage of the US coast, so check.

The loss of a nations firstborns sons - which nation? Which war? How many firstborn sons?

Sky rolls up like parchment - I remember reading that HAARP will be activated and will strip away the Earth's ionosphere; does that count?
 

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coldelephant said:
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Sky rolls up like parchment - I remember reading that HAARP will be activated and will strip away the Earth's ionosphere; does that count?
Only if HAARP actually does one of the things that's claimed for it and not some of the others, like weather, or mind control, or death rays. ;)
 

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Traprain said:
Yes, it was all part of central bank policy. Getting the masses to spend 4/5/6 years worth of wages in 3 years to help the economy and the War on Terra.

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Well, unless they cut interest rates again and postpone the reckoning a wee bit longer.
Agreed. If you strip away credit from the last several decades, you'll see that (in the industrial world) the working and middle classes are all much poorer than has been advertised. In fact, very poor, indeed. This fact was brought to my complete attention when I saw someone using their credit card (not debit card) to pay for groceries.

How the situation will be bailed out, I don't know.
 
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Absolutely right they're poor - I can remember a time when I've been living out of my overdraft, and once your wages go in your overdraft balance is paid off and your balance is about 20p or something and you start all over again.

If you have a credit card it might be even worse.
 

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coldelephant said:
Absolutely right they're poor - I can remember a time when I've been living out of my overdraft, and once your wages go in your overdraft balance is paid off and your balance is about 20p or something and you start all over again.

If you have a credit card it might be even worse.
Not at all unusual and I know a number of people who are also up to their inflated limits on their credit card(s). If certain banks were to go under and call in their credit you'd see horrendous rates of bankruptcy.
 

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That's unlikely to happen with any of the major banks though.
 

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Jerry_B said:
That's unlikely to happen with any of the major banks though.
Ahem:

Barclays Borrows $623 Million From Bank of England, People Say

By Jon Menon

Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Barclays Plc borrowed 314 million pounds ($623 million) from the Bank of England on Aug. 20 after a loan from HSBC Holding Plc was delayed, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

Barclays didn't get the funds from HSBC in time to meet the deadline, the people said. Spokesmen for Barclays and HSBC Holdings Plc declined to comment.

The U.K. central bank loaned the money through its standing facility at an emergency rate of 6.75 percent, 1 percentage point above the benchmark, the central bank said in London yesterday. It was the first loan to be made at that rate in a month after rising U.S. subprime mortgage defaults made commercial banks reluctant to lend to each other.

``It looks like they just missed the deadline and I take that at face value, though it's a very suspicious market at the moment,'' said Sandy Chen, an analyst at Panmure Gordon in London with a ``sell'' rating on Barclays.
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I hope the Bank of England made them fill out a plethora of forms and then hummed and ahhed, tutted and then asked them invasive questions about their expenses before loaning the money.... :twisted:
 

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I doubt that this means that Barclays is about to go under.
 
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Nah - they just needed some pocket money to stay liquid so that they could carry on in the world of credit or something.
 

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Jerry_B said:
I doubt that this means that Barclays is about to go under.
No it doesn't, but if the events of the last few years (BCCI, Barings etc) have proved anything it's that no institution however entrenched is invulnerable.
 

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It depends on the type of bank, more often than not.
 

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So it was all about the oil after all.

Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m


Peter Beaumont and Joanna Walters in New York
Sunday September 16, 2007
The Observer


The man once regarded as the world's most powerful banker has bluntly declared that the Iraq war was 'largely' about oil.
Appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1987 and retired last year after serving four presidents, Alan Greenspan has been the leading Republican economist for a generation and his utterings instantly moved world markets.

In his long-awaited memoir - out tomorrow in the US - Greenspan, 81, who served as chairman of the US Federal Reserve for almost two decades, writes: 'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'

Greenspan's damning comments about the war come as a survey of Iraqis, which was released last week, claims that up to 1.2 million people may have died because of the conflict in Iraq - lending weight to a 2006 survey in the Lancet that reported similarly high levels.

More than one million deaths were already being suggested by anti-war campaigners, but such high counts have consistently been rejected by US and UK officials. The estimates, extrapolated from a sample of 1,461 adults around the country, were collected by a British polling agency, ORB, which asked a random selection of Iraqis how many people living in their household had died as a result of the violence rather than from natural causes.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/st ... 37,00.html
 

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coldelephant said:
Mods - I think this should be moved to the US Economy about to collapse thread.
Has been, now. Sorry for the delay :).
 

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Panic over

Don't panic, everything will be taken care of ... as if by magic... by the National Economic Security and Reformation Act.

hehehe this is priceless :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2007/07/nesara-announcement-expected-in-run-up.html

NESARA announcement expected in the run-up to 2012
Page update: 26.09.07

As the British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, completed talks with President Bush in July 2007 at Camp David (Maryland, USA), British military withdrawal from Iraq was not the most sensitive topic. It was the prospect of an imminent NESARA announcement which was more difficult for both men. And NESARA was the late night visitor again at the APEC meeting in Sydney at the beginning of September 2007.

Who was in Sydney? Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan ("Taipei"), Thailand, USA and Vietnam. These 21 economies account for more than a third of the world's population, about 60 percent of global GDP and 47 percent of world trade volume.

At the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, there were two agendas for the twenty one leaders: the public agenda and the private agenda.

The public agenda was about climate change, the Doha Round and media-filtered right-on we're doing a good job against the terrorists regional issues. The private agenda did not exist. Don't you worry your pretty little head about the private agenda. The private agenda was NESARA, and China versus America for ownership of the planet.

NESARA is the covert National Economic Security and Reformation Act. Following initiatives taken by the USA's Supreme Court in the 1990s, NESARA was passed into law by Congress in March 2000. It was one of the last official documents which ex-President Bill Clinton signed before leaving office. He added his signature on the 10th October 2000. The statute has been kept under wraps since 2000, but has been periodically updated. Recent actions by the USA administration have activated the move for its disclosure.

NESARA restores Constitutional Law in America at the moment it is announced. Corrupt USA administration officials are immediately removed. Peace is announced in Iraq and Afghanistan and the military are withdrawn. All credit card and mortgage debt is cancelled as a remedy for USA banking fraud. Similar moves are implemented in more than 100 other countries worldwide.

Following the NESARA announcement, The Federal Reserve Board will be abolished. A new US Treasury Bank System will click into place, with a new U.S. Treasury currency backed by gold. Federal Reserve facilities and most non-senior personnel who do not oppose the change will be absorbed into the new US Treasury Bank System.

Gold is going to be important. There is much more gold in store in covert vaults than is officially stated. And there is also a lot more gold available beyond these covert vaults than even the darkside moneymen of the Illuminati know. Large deposits of gems and precious metals - not just Silver, Gold, Palladium and Platinum, but some others as yet unknown to modern science - have been accumulated and securely stored since the fourteenth century. These deposits are spiritually protected by The Higher Evolution. The Higher Evolution also has privileged information about the location of substantial undiscovered gold seams in hundreds of terrestrial locations beyond the reach or knowledge of the mining industry. They also have the technology to extract this gold without environmental damage. In addition, there are benign extraterrestrial sources of gold ready and waiting to be brought on stream post-NESARA. Some of these are said to be very large indeed.

NESARA is an uncomfortable prospect for President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. Both will be removed from office with immediate effect. They will be replaced with constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates, thought to be Congressman Dennis Kucinich (Democrat - Ohio) and Senator Barack Obama (Democrat - Illinois). The ex-Vice President, Al Gore (Democrat), may also have a substantive role. Six months after the NESARA announcement is made, new USA Federal elections will be held.

NESARA will happen. All the monies, all the systems, all the prosperity programmes and all the new banks are in position worldwide. But first the dead wood has to be cleared out. Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, David Duncan, Scott McClellan, Joe Allbaugh, James Guckert, Jeff Gannon, Porter Goss, Richard Perle, John Ashcroft, Paul Wolfowitz, Andrew Card, Lewis Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, John Bolton, Harriet Miers, Dennis Hastert, Rob Portman, Sara Taylor, Jaydee Crouch, Meghan O'Sullivan, Dan Bartlett, Karl Rove, Alberto Gonzalez, Larry Craig and Tony Snow have gone already. Others such as Mike McConnell, John Negroponte, Stephen Hadley, Joshua Bolten, David Addington, John Scott Redd, Michael Hayden, Rudy Giuliani, Bandar bin Sultan, Henry Paulson, Carlos Gutierrez, Karan Bhatia, Robert Gates, Sam Bodman, Michael Chertoff, Karen Hughes, Clay Johnson, Philip Zelikow, Michael Mukasey, Ben Bernanke, Donald Kohn, Michael Hayden, Jim Oberwetter, Richard Jones, Rick Perry, George Bush Snr, Henry Kissinger, Nancy Pelosi and the Clintons will go soon. And then it will be like the last march of the clones: George Bush Jnr and Dick Cheney will follow them down the road, and the west wing lavatories will be cleaned of equivocal DNA for the last time.

With regard to the NESARA American banking changes outlined above, an insider Casper Report dated 26.08.07 here suggested that the main public announcement had been scheduled for Tuesday 18th September 2007. This did not happen. Other smaller, preparatory NESARA statements to do with conceptual, legal and constitutional matters were due to emerge in the days before the financial announcement of the 18th September 2007. These statements were not made. It was said that on the 18th September, the Fed was to meet for the last time to say goodbye to Ben Bernanke. Whether or not that happened is not clear. But on the 18th September 2007, the Fed, following the Northern Rock bank run in Europe (details here) took the most unusual decision to cut American interest rates by half a percentage point and thus pump up the American stock market for a few more days.


The Federal Reserve Board has been a credit system of fiat money. As such, it has always been unfit for purpose. Very soon now, the swindle will end. And the new gold standard system, as required by the American Constitution, will finally come on line.

On the afternoon of Wednesday 19th September 2007, it is said that Henry Paulson, the USA Treasury Secretary, held secret behind-closed-doors talks with the USA Congress. He advised them that the USA had quietly joined the new Global Banking System. The Chinese and the Japanese had been helpful, behind the scenes, in moving this development forward. In the end, the Rothschild Illuminati banksters in Europe had dropped their opposition. Only the Rockefeller Illuminati banksters in the USA put up a fight. They are fighting still.

The Bush White House is in turmoil. Barbara Bush, the President's mother has accused George Bush Jnr, the President, of destroying the Bush family name. Laura Bush, the President's wife, has had divorce papers prepared and has said that she will only continue to present publicly as George's wife until he leaves office. She has demanded a ten million dollar honorarium for providing that photo shoot service. Laura Bush did not accompany George to the APEC meeting in Sydney in September 2007. George Bush Jnr and George Bush Snr are at loggerheads on nearly every substantive issue. One by one the Bush family bank accounts are being closed down, and soon George Bush Jnr will find it difficult to pay his staff down home at Crawford, Texas, where he owns the Prairie Chapel Ranch.

The Vice President, Dick Cheney, is popping pills like Jimi Hendrix at the Isle of Wight. He is as close to dead, physically, as a zombie can be. He is being propped-up by medics like a Soviet-era dictator. Dick Cheney has had at least four heart attacks since 1978. He has contractile dysfunction of the left ventricle. He underwent four-vessel coronary artery bypass grafting in 1988, a coronary artery stenting in November 2000, and urgent coronary balloon angioplasty in March 2001. In 2001, a Holter monitor disclosed episodes of asymptomatic ectopy. An implantable cardioverter-defibrillator has been implanted in his chest. In September 2005, Dick Cheney underwent an endovascular procedure to repair popliteal artery aneurysms. His atherosclerotic disease is progressing despite aggressive treatment. He experiences cardiac-related breathing difficulties. More about Dick Cheney's health can be found here. One of Dick Cheney's silent clone lookalikes appears occasionally for the cameras to maintain an illusion of normality. Look carefully and notice the plastic smile. George Bush Jnr has a nodding mind-controlled clone lookalike, too. It attends some conferences on his behalf.

The primary physical event which triggers the public NESARA announcements is the delivery of upwards of three hundred thousand enabling packages to one hundred new banks and others. These packages are in transit now and have been stolen by George Bush Jnr. On his instruction, they are moved around continually between Bank of America vaults and US Treasury vaults. The Rockefeller people at the top of Credit Suisse and Goldman Sachs are colluding in this conspiracy. The plan is to delay delivery of the packages as long as possible and, in the meantime, to use the money the packages release for stealth trades. The World Court has lodged ten charges of Treason against George Bush Jnr, the 43rd President of the United States of America. These will shortly be served on him by the Adjutant General for the USA accompanied by the Provost Marshall for the USA (Brigadier General Rodney Johnson). More details can be found in a Casper Update of the 21st September 2007 here. And more details about George Bush Jnr's final end-game battle against the NESARA announcements can be found here (22.09.07), here (23.09.07), here (23.09.07), here (24.09.07) and here (24.09.07).

The Higher Evolution are fighting the Bush White House conspirators every step of the way and they are winning. Piece by piece the NESARA jigsaw is being irreversibly assembled. And the Higher Evolution are becoming more explicit about what is going on behind the scenes. Here, for example, is what one of the Sirian principals, called SaLuSa, said on the 14th September 2007: "Often you tire of hearing that events are to happen 'soon' and naturally you want to see action. The difficulty for you is that most of our work is in the nature of defence, and through our allies blocking moves made by the dark. They perpetually try to provoke the people into situations that aid their agenda, and we have to stay a step ahead of their moves. Our help virtually goes unnoticed and it would appear that we are not active, which is far from the truth. From our ships we have technology that allows us to follow actions of those we monitor, and it even reaches as far as reading their thoughts. Our knowledge of what is happening is complete and clearly gives us a major advantage. Our computers can accurately predict events, and with the authority we have been given can take action to keep a tight rein of the outcome .... Our abundance programme has been set up to alter the imbalances in the distribution of wealth. When we are finally allowed to involve ourselves in your changes, it will be one of the first major events that will take place. We know that once we can help you overcome poverty, it will be much easier to bring you all into a new way of thinking. You will realise that a grand re-organisation of your lives will enable you to leap ahead, and happy and contented people are more likely to open their hearts to the potential that it brings. You need to see that we are genuine when it comes to your well-being, and that we have no ulterior motive for arriving on Earth." The full text of the Sirian SaLuSa's comments can be found on Mike Quinsey's site here.

And here is what another Sirian, speaking on behalf of The Galactic Federation, said on the 18th September 2007: "You are very close to some major announcements as well as to the disbursement of your much-promised prosperity! In effect, this reality, long run by the dark and its greedy and callous minions, is about to be amazingly transformed. All that we have been telling you about is now close to fruition, starting, of course, with the abundance deliveries. It is the successful completion of the deliveries that starts the cascade of dominoes that brings down the present US administration. Over the past few years, this group of shrewd and self-serving malefactors has led your world down a precarious path of mischief and mayhem, designed to benefit only their friends, family, and corporate associates. Now the time finally comes to jettison these defiant ones and move your world to a better place. It is this desire that has driven both our Earth allies and us, and we are pleased to state that the planetary gear-change we all want is almost upon us at last! Those who are preparing to make the series of announcements, as well as those scheduled to form the new transitional governments, are very diligently setting into motion the final manoeuvres that are to swiftly transform your current bleak reality. The preparations took as long as they did because of the myriad details that had to get done in a precise and sequential manner. These minutiae lie at the core of the end game, which was set in motion a few months back. The enormous amount of preliminaries meant that the final steps could not be revealed until these were fully in place. The strategy is to lead your dark cabal into reacting in such a way that it unwittingly assists in the manifestation of the next phase of the grand plan. The dark ones were to be lured, step-by-step, with a careful mixture of 'apparent' facts and 'apparent' secret operations into moving in a certain direction until a point of no return was reached. This has now most emphatically been accomplished!" The full text of The Galactic Federation's comments can be found on Sheldan Nidle's site here.


When they are made, perhaps just a few days late in September 2007, the NESARA announcements themselves may not use the actual term "NESARA". This is because of successful Darkside disinformation which has managed to stigmatise the word "NESARA" and to put the idea around that NESARA is a conspiracy theory. But whoever heard of a positive conspiracy theory? When they come, the NESARA announcements may be presented as financial announcements, or economic announcements or banking announcements. The word "statement" may be used instead of the word "announcement". George Bush himself may make the first of these announcements, before leaving the White House with Dick Cheney for the last time. They will leave under military escort and they will be held in custody awaiting treason, fraud, embezzlement and war crimes legal actions. The key signifier to look for in the announcements is the abolition of the Federal Reserve Board and novel talk about new gold-backed currencies. Six or more of these will be introduced around the world.


The NESARA process is moving forwards and is energising abundance and prosperity programmes for the whole human population. Planet Earth is a most abundant planet. There is sufficient gold-backed human money currently in existence on Earth for each and every human being to be a GBP millionaire. GBP = Great Britain Pound. NESARA is about sharing the resources of the planet around fairly. And NESARA is about putting benevolent banking systems in place worldwide to deliver this monetary fairness. No individual anywhere on Earth will be beyond the reach of the NESARA wealth redistribution programmes. And no individual or organisation anywhere on Earth will be able to stop it.

A pecuniary aside is of interest here, with 911 in mind. Old hands may recall what happened on the day before the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers in New York on the 11th September 2001. The cover story here had to do with a couple of hijacked passenger planes getting crashed into the World Trade Centre by Jihadist patsies. This did happen, but the permitted terrorist attacks were smoke and mirrors; subsequent studies have shown that the collisions and their consequential infernos were insufficiently energetic to raze the buildings to the ground. Something else that had been strategically positioned inside the buildings in advance did that. On the 10th September 2001, the day before the planes flew, there was an unusual and large option trade. An individual, or entity, bought huge numbers of put contracts on airline stocks. The airline stocks chosen were those of the planes which flew into the Twin Towers the following day. Someone made upwards of fifty million dollars in less than twenty four hours. The American Securities and Exchange Commission knew who the beneficiary was but, on a pretext, refused to disclose their identity. This information will become public soon.

What has this ancient history got to do with NESARA? Well, there has been another pertinent, unusual and large option trade in America. It is said that a multi-billion dollar position, involving sixty five thousand option contracts, has been taken out. If the chosen stock market index falls by between 30% and 50% by Friday 21st September 2007 (three days after the planned NESARA banking announcement), the holder of the contracts will make a profit in the region of two billion dollars. Thus placed, he will not be in need of a sub-prime mortgage. On the other hand, if the index does not fall by that amount, or does not fall much at all, our intrepid investor will lose about seven hundred million dollars. There was a lively and heavily-visited thread about this option trade running at MarketTickerForums here. If you like your mammon raw, you'll enjoy MarketTickerForums. But they're not a prayer meeting.

It is worth asking who has taken out this unusual option position and what does he know? Is he an insider in the know about NESARA and speculating on the possibility that the NESARA announcement will crash the market? Or, more worryingly, is he in the loop about another 911-style planned disaster being staged with the deliberate intention of delaying the NESARA announcement? This is exactly what happened at 911. A couple of very important computer hubs in the World Trade Centre were destroyed hours before downloading massive volumes of secure NESARA data to scores of financial institutions worldwide. Interesting too, that most of the gold in the vaults of the WTC at that time was removed for safe-keeping just before the demolition of the towers. There is more about 911 here.

Recollections of this kind suggest that The Kennebunkport Warning of Sunday 26th August 2007 should be considered carefully (see here and here and here).

For many informed professionals, one of the more difficult aspects of the NESARA project to understand is the fact that it involves an executive overlap between esoteric spirituality and international finance. Normally, meditation and money don't mix. But in this NESARA project they do, they always have done and they always will do in the future. Spirituality and world prosperity programmes mediated through exoteric banking systems are one of a piece.

It is the Higher Evolution which is energising the NESARA process. Our higher dimensional colleagues sometimes refer to Planet Earth as Earth Shan. In an Earth Shan Transition Report published on Sunday 19th November 2006, information was given about the important role which China is playing in the NESARA process. At that time the darkside old order, sometimes referred to as the Illuminati, was doing all it could to stall the NESARA process. At this juncture the Chinese promised that if there was no substantial forward movement on NESARA by Thursday 23rd November 2006, they would dump their primary tranche of seven trillion Federal Reserve Notes on the markets. Understandably, this promise broke the NESARA logjam on the American side and progress towards completion was restarted. The full text of the Earth Shan Transition Report can be found on Jiten Mistry's blog here.

When the USA Treasury Secretary, Henry Paulson, met with Chinese President Hu Jintao, at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing on the 1st August 2007, there were planet-critical macroeconomic issues at stake. It was not a meeting of minds. It was a meeting of balls. Some of the world's largest hack attempts are operations by the Chinese government against the United States. The Chinese are better at computers than America. And China is better at money than America. China has real money backed by precious metals. America has paper illusions of money with pretty names: credit derivatives, collateralised debt obligations, credit default swaps, binary options. Invent your own paper. All it needs is a big letterhead and an absence of due diligence.

Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers are closing down bankrupt investment funds or trying to prop them up. The Federal Reserve Board props up all the worst speculators in the name of saving the American financial system, in a way that it would never prop up the failing American health system. American money paper is stacked up like a house of cards. The house of cards, Enron-style, Arthur Andersen-style, is dependent upon the safety of underlying assets which are themselves jerry-built on ball bearings. The accountants and risk managers know this, but they look the other way to save their paycheques.

The American banks' derivatives books are like mountain climbers tethered together on the side of a dangerous mountain in a blizzard. One goes, they all go. And the mountain itself is fantasy collateral, expediently raised by creative accounting.

America owns nothing. China owns America. That, thanks to the Bush-Cheney junta, is the realpolitik of the 21st century, post-911. Or, at least, that seems to be the buzz, uttered sotto voce, around the strangely quiet coffee shops of Wall Street at the moment.

The problem is, China knows all this. And America knows that China knows. So the NESARA move to a benevolent global banking system is a problem for America. America does not want a benevolent global banking system. America wants an American global banking system. China is using NESARA to discipline America.

There is really only one American financier who China likes and feels it can do business with. He is Leo Wanta of AmeriTrust (Virginia, USA). There is a NESARA connection here. A four and a half trillion dollar tranche of NESARA money connected with a sub-component of the process which the G8 nations refer to as "The Wanta Plan" is being held up in America by George Bush Snr, George Bush Jnr and Henry Paulson.

According to investigative financial journalist Christopher Story, the USA Treasury, Citibank and Bank of New York Mellon, among others, are being pressured by the Bush White House to delay economic receipt and on-screen recorded delivery of these funds to AmeriTrust Groupe for as long as possible. In the meantime, Story suggests, the Bush faction Illuminati are using the money to generate second-order financial papers to present as fantasy collateral for personal off-shore enrichment schemes.

This covert operation is so sensitive in the eyes of the White House, that Story's disclosure document on the web had substantive text hacked out of it on Thursday 30th August 2007 by the American National Security Agency (NSA/CSS). And this on a website outside the jurisdiction of the USA.

The text is now restored, the document has been multiplied around the web, and can now be read in a number of places including here. And background information about the USA government's hounding of Leo Wanta can be found here and here.

The corporate American media will not run this astonishing narrative. They will have to soon. The affair is unravelling. The Leo Wanta Plan NESARA money originally came from The People's Bank of China in June 2006, at the time that Henry Paulson took over as US Treasury Secretary in Washington. The Bank of England was also involved in the transfer process and a considerable amount of Queen Elizabeth II of England's personal gold has been cited as expedient collateral since. China, the UK, the Bank of England and the Queen are furious with the White House about this four and a half trillion dollar misapplication of NESARA committed funds.

Leo Wanta was not at APEC in Sydney to talk to the Chinese. But Henry Paulson was. Paulson is Beijing's public enemy number one. In August 2007, when he visited China, Paulson physically manhandled Madame Wu Yi, the Chinese Minister of Finance, in a brothel-style hug. This was at an official reception. Madame Wu Yi recoiled and screamed at him. Senior Chinese Communist Party officials also shouted at him and told him to go back to America. Paulson departed and flew home early. What happened to poor old Hank in Sydney has yet to be told.

Apart from Dennis Kucinich (Democrat - Ohio), only one other American Presidential candidate for 2008 has begun to articulate NESARA signifiers in his public speeches. He is Congressman Ron Paul (Republican - Texas). Speaking on C-SPAN's morning Washington Journal, in August 2007, Dr Paul said that there should be no Federal Reserve Board, no income tax, no Internal Revenue Service, and no welfare for big corporations. He asserted that the only Constitutional money is gold and silver, not notes redeemable in them - not "fed funny money." There should be no federal judges usurping states' rights, and no federal attacks on private property. Many of Dr Paul's ideas here are central to the NESARA process.

Ron Paul argued that the USA could get rid of most central government cabinet departments, most of the agencies and most of the budget. The US government should be small, frugal, and limited. He went on to describe the decline of American civil liberties at the hands of the federal police. Ron Paul made the point that according to the American Constitution there are not supposed to be any federal police. He talked about the equivocal role of federal agencies and the corporate media during the Waco massacre in Texas in 1993. He said that a lot of Americans fear that they too might be attacked by federal swat teams for exercising their constitutional rights, or merely for wanting to be left alone.

Ron Paul has not yet addressed the issues of Morgellons Disease or the regulation of the underground base at Denver International Airport (Colorado). DIA is, by land size, the largest airport in the USA. It was designed by Charles Ansbacher and David Rockefeller for Illuminati / New World Order use. The multi-level underground base beneath it is thought to be a centre for off-limit genetics and human / alien hybrid research. Some say that it also has a connection with recent child disappearances in Colorado and neighbouring states. It is not clear which US federal government agency is now running the underground base at Denver International Airport. The independent media have always been rigorously excluded from the facility. Ron Paul has yet to speak explicitly on these two issues of public concern.

The Bush-Cheney White House is very worried about Congressman Ron Paul. He has painted them into a corner. With Ron Paul's help, the American electorate, perhaps the most supine and unsophisticated in the free world, has begun to intuit what Bush-Cheney are all about. Bush-Cheney are about engineering a collapse of the American Empire for their own private enrichment. In their view, if this collapse is planned, swift and complete, aided by trigger-happy warships in the Gulf and fake Bin Laden videos, they can stop Paul in his tracks and stop NESARA. The idea here is to get everything to go pear-shaped quickly, impose martial law and then clean up afterwards with landgrabs. The deliberate collapse of the American Empire is designed to hold up the worldwide NESARA announcement, exactly as 911 was (and did). The USA is in a self-destruct Illuminati endgame. It is the last throw of the dark dice for Bush-Cheney and their covert controllers.

With regard to Osama bin Laden, he is probably dead. The charismatic founder of al-Qaeda died of typhoid in Pakistan at the beginning of September 2006, according to a highly classified intelligence brief given to the King of Saudi Arabia and President Chirac at the time, and leaked to the French newspaper L'Est Republicain. More details here. But there are one or two Bin Laden lookalikes working for American intelligence. Bush-Cheney need Bin Laden. They can use him as expedient grist in their scare-mill. They need straw men to gull the American public into compliance with their war on terror disinformation. And lookalikes are useful in videos. This is a repeat of the Iraq ploy with Saddam. Long after the real Saddam was dead, America used a lookalike Saddam puppet to pretend that he was still alive. They then hanged the puppet. More details about the Saddam lookalike can be found here.
 

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Oh dear God, i thought we had seen the end of this, good find though. There was a thread on the UFO forum about Starship Capricorn that was tied in with all this NESARA rubbish. The 'shuttles' were going to land once the NESARA money was handed out. I think it was Human84 who started it all off. What ever happened to him and his own personnel flying saucer after all?
 

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well id say if human84 ever flew in the contraption shown.he is most probably dead.

ive seen £60 second hand cars better built,non of which could ever sustain life under water let alone space


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A good article, mentioned by someone on another website, which discusses 'Disaster Capitalism' as an investment opportunity and Naomi Klein's new book on the subject, 'The Shock Doctrine; The Rise Of Disaster Capitalism'.
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Market Watch: New 'Disaster Capitalism' economy
Wars, terror, catastrophes are 'IPOs' and 'emerging markets'


By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch. Oct 15, 2007

ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Hot tip: Invest in "Disaster Capitalism." This new investment sector is the core of the emerging "new economy" that generates profits by feeding off other peoples' misery: Wars, terror attacks, natural catastrophes, poverty, trade sanctions, market crashes and all kinds of economic, financial and political disasters.

In this Orwellian future, everything must be seen with new eyes: "Disasters" are "IPOs," opportunities to buy into a new "company." Corporations like Lockheed-Martin are the real "emerging nations" of the world, not some dinky countries. They generate huge profits, grow earnings. And seen through the new rose-colored glasses of "Disaster Capitalism" they are hot investment opportunities.

To more fully grasp this new economy, you must read what may be the most important book on economics in the 21st century, Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism," whose roots trace back the ideas of three 20th century giants:

1. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who warned us against the self-perpetuating and ever-expanding economic power of our "military-industrial complex."
2. Nobel economist Milton Friedman, who said economic change never occurs without a crisis shocking the system; whether the crisis is natural, induced or merely perceived, as with enflaming public fears of war and terror threats.
3. Economist Joseph Schumpeter, whose saw "creative destruction" as a healthy process by which new technologies and new products made old ones obsolete.


"Disaster Capitalism" is financing a new world economic order says Klein, not just in "the divide between Baghdad's Green and Red zones" but in other disaster zones, from post-tsunami Sri Lanka to post-Katrina New Orleans.

Disasters come in many forms: Weapons destroying power plants and hospitals, nature weakening bridges, hurricanes wiping out towns, ideological conflicts turning Africa's farmlands into deserts, global banking systems favoring investors over public works, shopping malls over schools, sewage treatment and power plants, and so on.

Yes, this is a hot-button political issue. But for the moment, let's put aside partisan politics, which many will find disturbing for the future of America. Let's look at this strictly as investors and briefly consider what may also be a guide for aggressive investors searching for investment opportunities in "Disaster Capitalism." In a brilliant Harper's excerpt from "The Shock Doctrine," Klein makes clear how this new economy is the wave of the future for certain investors:

"Today, global instability does not just benefit a small group of arms dealers; it generates huge profits for the high-tech-homeland-security sector, for heavy construction, for private health-care companies, for the oil and gas sectors -- and, of course, for defense contractors."

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A interesting place from which to contemplate where Globalisation, Privatisation, Global Warming and the depletion of Earth's resources all might be leading.
 

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Let's see...oil is $110 a barrel, gold $1,000 an ounce, US home foreclosure filings jumped 60 percent and bank seizures more than doubled in February. Groceries are getting more expensive by the week and the dollar's freefall shows no sign of slowing down (let's cut those interest rates and print some money!). Oh and that whole deal where Wall Street's fifth largest investment bank was just bailed out by the US treasury. Are we there yet?
 

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I'm not into cross-posting, but take a look at the interesting article i'm posting now on the PC gone mad thread.
 

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lopaka3 said:
Let's see...oil is $110 a barrel, gold $1,000 an ounce, US home foreclosure filings jumped 60 percent and bank seizures more than doubled in February. Groceries are getting more expensive by the week and the dollar's freefall shows no sign of slowing down (let's cut those interest rates and print some money!). Oh and that whole deal where Wall Street's fifth largest investment bank was just bailed out by the US treasury. Are we there yet?
Something like this happened just before the second world war... :(
 

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Mythopoeika said:
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Something like this happened just before the second world war... :(
'History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.'
Karl Marx
 

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Interesting article, here:
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts03182008.html

A Bankrupt Superpower
The Collapse of American Power


Counterpunch.Org. By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS. March 18th 2008

In his famous book, The Collapse of British Power (1972), Correlli Barnett reports that in the opening days of World War II Great Britain only had enough gold and foreign exchange to finance war expenditures for a few months. The British turned to the Americans to finance their ability to wage war. Barnett writes that this dependency signaled the end of British power.

From their inception, America's 21st century wars against Afghanistan and Iraq have been red ink wars financed by foreigners, principally the Chinese and Japanese, who purchase the US Treasury bonds that the US government issues to finance its red ink budgets.

The Bush administration forecasts a $410 billion federal budget deficit for this year, an indication that, as the US saving rate is approximately zero, the US is not only dependent on foreigners to finance its wars but also dependent on foreigners to finance part of the US government's domestic expenditures. Foreign borrowing is paying US government salaries--perhaps that of the President himself--or funding the expenditures of the various cabinet departments. Financially, the US is not an independent country.

The Bush administration's $410 billion deficit forecast is based on the unrealistic assumption of 2.7% GDP growth in 2008, whereas in actual fact the US economy has fallen into a recession that could be severe. There will be no 2.7% growth, and the actual deficit will be substantially larger than $410 billion.

Just as the government's budget is in disarray, so is the US dollar which continues to decline in value in relation to other currencies. The dollar is under pressure not only from budget deficits, but also from very large trade deficits and from inflation expectations resulting from the Federal Reserve's effort to stabilize the very troubled financial system with large injections of liquidity.

A troubled currency and financial system and large budget and trade deficits do not present an attractive face to creditors. Yet Washington in its hubris seems to believe that the US can forever rely on the Chinese, Japanese and Saudis to finance America's life beyond its means. Imagine the shock when the day arrives that a US Treasury auction of new debt instruments is not fully subscribed.

The US has squandered $500 billion dollars on a war that serves no American purpose. Moreover, the $500 billion is only the out-of-pocket costs. It does not include the replacement cost of the destroyed equipment, the future costs of care for veterans, the cost of the interests on the loans that have financed the war, or the lost US GDP from diverting scarce resources to war. Experts who are not part of the government's spin machine estimate the cost of the Iraq war to be as much as $3 trillion.

The Republican candidate for President said he would be content to continue the war for 100 years. With what resources? When America's creditors consider our behavior they see total fiscal irresponsibility. They see a deluded country that acts as if it is a privilege for foreigners to lend to it, and a deluded country that believes that foreigners will continue to accumulate US debt until the end of time.

The fact of the matter is that the US is bankrupt. David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the US and head of the Government Accountability Office, in his December 17, 2007, report to the US Congress on the financial statements of the US government noted that "the federal government did not maintain effective internal control over financial reporting (including safeguarding assets) and compliance with significant laws and regulations as of September 30, 2007." In everyday language, the US government cannot pass an audit.

Moreover, the GAO report pointed out that the accrued liabilities of the federal government "totaled approximately $53 trillion as of September 30, 2007." No funds have been set aside against this mind boggling liability.

Just so the reader understands, $53 trillion is $53,000 billion.

Frustrated by speaking to deaf ears, Walker recently resigned as head of the Government Accountability Office.

As of March 17, 2008, one Swiss franc is worth more than $1 dollar. In 1970, the exchange rate was 4.2 Swiss francs to the dollar. In 1970, $1 purchased 360 Japanese yen. Today $1 dollar purchases less than 100 yen.

If you were a creditor, would you want to hold debt in a currency that has such a poor record against the currency of a small island country that was nuked and defeated in WW II, or against a small landlocked European country that clings to its independence and is not a member of the EU?

Would you want to hold the debt of a country whose imports exceed its industrial production? According to the latest US statistics as reported in the February 28 issue of Manufacturing and Technology News, in 2007 imports were 14 percent of US GDP and US manufacturing comprised 12% of US GDP. A country whose imports exceed its industrial production cannot close its trade deficit by exporting more.

The dollar has even collapsed in value against the euro, the currency of a make-believe country that does not exist: the European Union. France, Germany, Italy, England and the other members of the EU still exist as sovereign nations. England even retains its own currency. Yet the euro hits new highs daily against the dollar.

Noam Chomsky recently wrote that America thinks that it owns the world. That is definitely the view of the neoconized Bush administration. But the fact of the matter is that the US owes the world. The US "superpower" cannot even finance its own domestic operations, much less its gratuitous wars except via the kindness of foreigners to lend it money that cannot be repaid.

The US will never repay the loans. The American economy has been devastated by offshoring, by foreign competition, and by the importation of foreigners on work visas, while it holds to a free trade ideology that benefits corporate fat cats and shareholders at the expense of American labor. The dollar is failing in its role as reserve currency and will soon be abandoned.

When the dollar ceases to be the reserve currency, the US will no longer be able to pay its bills by borrowing more from foreigners.

I sometimes wonder if the bankrupt "superpower" will be able to scrape together the resources to bring home the troops stationed in its hundreds of bases overseas, or whether they will just be abandoned.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: [email protected]
 

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Mythopoeika said:
Something like this happened just before the second world war... :(
Are you referring to the Wall Street Crash or something more immediate to 1939?
 

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lopaka3 said:
Something like this happened just before the second world war... :(
And American "life style" has been an illusion since then.

If Americans had to live only on what they could earn--no credit cards, no bank loans--Americans would have a better understanding of how little purchasing power they really have.

I think the American economy is just snapping back to where it was pre-WWII, and it's going to be quite the shock. (Just looked it up: in 1938, 19% of the labor force was unemployed.)
 

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Do the United States need another large war to get the economy growing again? A war with Iran will probably not be large enough.
 

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I'd have thought that America's current financial woes would have made war less likely, particularly with Iran. The disruption in the Straits of Hormuz would be devastating to oil prices which will force the cost of everything else up. In those circumstances you'd just have less consumer spending and that's the big fear right now.

Also, it's worth pointing out that the American economy was improving before the second world war started. Things had been worse earlier on in the decade than they were by the end. I'm not sure there's any evidence that the American economy in general has improved as a result of a war where its main competitors were not at least as badly affected.
 

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ted_bloody_maul said:
Also, it's worth pointing out that the American economy was improving before the second world war started.
The economy was improving because war was coming and manufacturers were ramping up (even when the U.S.A. didn't expect to be part of that war).

I hope America doesn't need a war to jumpstart the economy! What I meant to point out was that the economic/social/cultural problems that existed in 1938 were never worked out -- all efforts were sideswiped by WWII.

So these problems may be coming back, and they do need to be worked out this time.
 
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