- Aug 19, 2003
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more comments on indymedia re Slaven.
What The Papers Say
by Erin Cairde - Cairde na hÉireann Tue Jan 17, 2006 21:03
It's in the papers so it must be true, I suppose? The point made about 'evidence' was not that the newspaper articles did not exist but that the conclusions that are being drawn from them are nothing more than wishful thinking based on malicious gossip and innuendo. It seems that the reaction of certain people and political groupings in Scotland who have now lost their previous position and standing within the republican movement is to point the finger and start shouting 'tout, agent and grass' at anyone that they perceive to be their enemy. It's playground politics.
by carl spence Tue Jan 17, 2006 23:49
slevin was involved with racketeers and dealers for years. then he became self sufficient financially. must have been saving his pennies.
same reaction as to scappaticci
by richard sorge III Wed Jan 18, 2006 00:07
sorry erin, but your reaction reminds me of the reaction by sinn fein to the scappaticci-saga...nonono and then he ran away...my question isnow: how long was donaldson in the international dept.? ah yes by the way, go to the tal mag no.7 page 11 and to fighting talk mags no.12-15: there s some coverage about poor jims arrest, the campaign against his possible jailing and the deal in court to save him from the open university...sanctus spiritus
by Barry Wed Jan 18, 2006 00:44
your complaints are a bit rich to say the least, coming from a party leadership that has routinely denounced anyone who doesnt agree with them as "securocrat puppets" and MI5 agents out to destroy the " peace process" . For the past 12 years theyve routinely described anyone who doesnt agree with them as a Brit agent .
You people are most definitely NOT the republican separatist movement .
Youse have surrendered arms on a British demand and are on the verge of joining the British police . To dismiss peoples disgust at that as mere jealousy at not being involved in the opportunity to do Britains dirty work is a disgrace .
by BS - Bart Wed Jan 25, 2006 19:47
A freelance journalist didn’t do the article. Check out the spelling and grammar mistakes. No educated journalist would make such errors. The person that wrote this should maybe learn to spell and find out where to put punctuation marks. They could maybe even use the computers built in spell checker facility if they get really stuck!
by EX Scottish Republican Thu Jan 26, 2006 09:37
Tearing me in two but for the good of the Republican Movement that i walked away from last year (without passing any true comment) these things have to be said .
I was pulled by a security section (they wouldnt ever say which one) in the summer of 2005 offering me payment & asking me to keep an eye on certain on goings and certain peoples actions amung everything else and all the things & PEOPLE ! they were asking me, I eventually came to the conclusion to walk away from my political beliefs Because they (the security service involved) i felt made a huge blunder in not mentioning Jim during their approaches, "why ask me to keep an eye on this and that and NOT jim" ???? that and other suspisions that have came together like a bad jigsaw since brought me to my thinking that , this movement is riddled with Police Agents & that i had to get out .
I believe JS to be so, but sadly i dont think he is on his own, i truely believe that their is many not only in Ireland but in Scotland , Liverpool & the rest of the mainland,.
Where do we go from here, well !! the country itself ie media is starting to unravel the truth, as every week we here more and more allegations of treason, we have to hope they are all exposed and bannished then we will one day be strong once more .
TAL ( I Hope )
by Glasgow Irish Fri Jan 27, 2006 09:27
SO VERY TRUE, THE BRANCH ARE LIKE THE FOG WITH OUR PEOPLE , THEY ARE ALL OVER US ! AND NOW THEY HAVE THAT MANY GRASS'S THERE IS A WAITING LIST !
BUT ITS THE ONES AT THE TOP WHO COUNT FOR THEM .
TOO MANY ORDINARY FOLK HAVE WEAKNESS'S AND JIM SLAVEN IS RENOUN FOR HIS LUXURYS , MAYBE HIS MISTAKE WAS TO STICK HIS HEAD OUT TOO FAR !! BUT THIS TALK IS RIFE ABOUT JIM SLAVEN
EVERYONE KNOWS HOW THE COPS WORK, GET A MAN AT THE TOP - BRIBE AND BLACK MAIL THEN GET HIM TO PLAY THINGS THE WAY THEY WANT IT PLAYED INSIDE THEIR STRATEGY TO DEFEAT US, WELL MANY SEE THIS NOW HAPPENING .
DIVIDE AND CONQUER !! EH JIM !!!!!!!
by pat c Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:00
if you shout LIKE THIS. then it annoys people and they may miss the message you wish to convey. please dont put your entire message in upper case.
by historian Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:10
Surely if the security agencies were protecting Slaven they would have asked you to watch him just as much as anyone else. They don't tend to blow their agents cover in such a haphazard fashion.
by On looker Sat Jan 28, 2006 23:53
Think that was the guys point and why he reacted the way he did .
by john Mon Jan 30, 2006 14:39
as a scottish republican who was involved with pdf and wosba to my knowledge donaldson was not involved in the restructuring of scotjand although he had been present at a republican function in scotland
by historian Mon Jan 30, 2006 14:47
MY point is that the Branch/MI5 or whoever are not stupid enough to blow their agent's cover by deliberatly NOT asking people about them when they are being interrogated. They're not fools you know.
by onlooker Tue Jan 31, 2006 01:01
Maybee he was no interest to them at the time or they had no reason to watch him !! as they didnt find him dangerous enough or at the time active enough !, the point That the guy is making is
They never ! and he obviously new things about JS for him to wonder why not !!
This could go round in circles but the point is people are coming out and making points about JS , never enough to find him guilty (i dont think) but its certaianly enough for people to draw suspision about him .
Get Scap he'll sort it out !!! oops ! forgot about him !!!! :-(
by SPOOKS Thu Feb 02, 2006 03:10
We all know that MI5 & 6 have the whole situation in the palm of their hand,
on both sides ! if you are at the front of your political group especially within the irish conflict the mob will be right on your case , blackmailing and presurising you to turn informer (or they will kill you !! lol ) on occasions they have stated , if you dont we will put it about that you are ! is this maybee who scap was working for, for years ? how many innocent men were capped or even worse through HM Forces Dirty War ? they can black mail with money or even just digging up a wee skeleton from your past , they are determined people under pressure to get results and over the past 5 years my god have they got them, on both sides of the political divide .
As i said anyone who is at the top of their political group is fair game to them, the foot soldiers are no good , its the top men who hold all the cards and have access to all the info the thing we all need to understand and ask our selves is how many of those at the top have actually resisted their approach and how many actually gave in to their presure and lapped up their luxurious offers ?
Lifes a bitch when you've no wife
and the man next doors got 2
by Padraig - none YET ! Thu May 04, 2006 13:17
Slaven is playing British Cards
Jim Slaven is a British Agent , this has grew legs since the raised profile of Donaldson, Trust JS and you Trust the British
JIM SLAVEN IS AN INFORMANT, JIM SLAVEN IS A GRASS !!!