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Contrails & Chemtrails

drbates said:
I was talking about the website and the website author...mmmmmkay?

Crop dusting from a low level in a little plane and very specific cloud seeding are different from the apparent brief that every airliner that leaves a vapour trail at 40,000ft is somehow poisoning is all
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So you were talking about the author of the website and not Christian Nash. I apologise.

There is borderline crazy paranoia around people who are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that chemtrails are definitely real without knowing it as fact, perhaps though 40,000ft could dissipate a harmful substance at a wider range if the substance is more concentrated ?. I don't know. I'm leaning towards 'bullshit' although it is also not unknown for governments to experiment on large groups of military personal by 'spiking' them with substances without their knowledge so I think this thread still has some legs. My own opinion, or the one that I hope is true is that we are just seeing contrails. How quickly the contrails dissolve in the sky is also apparently a part of this debate. I'm also not a meteorologist so I don't know if different weather conditions could be the reason for that ? .. interesting stuff either way; either we're all under silent attack from chemtrails (still possible) or this a just an evolution of the usual Fortean 'strange things from the sky' pattern (more likely IMO) .. fish, coins, pebbles, strips of foil to confuse enemy radar during the second world war, UFO's, angels etc etc .. thanks for your reply drbates .. now I'm going to make myself a bacon sandwich. At least pigs don't fly .. or do they !!! ? .. I won't be spreading mustard gas on it ;)
 
Swifty said:
So you were talking about the author of the website and not Christian Nash. I apologise.

There is borderline crazy paranoia around people who are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that chemtrails are definitely real without knowing it as fact, perhaps though 40,000ft could dissipate a harmful substance at a wider range if the substance is more concentrated ?. I don't know. I'm leaning towards 'bullshit' although it is also not unknown for governments to experiment on large groups of military personal by 'spiking' them with substances without their knowledge so I think this thread still has some legs. My own opinion, or the one that I hope is true is that we are just seeing contrails. How quickly the contrails dissolve in the sky is also apparently a part of this debate. I'm also not a meteorologist so I don't know if different weather conditions could be the reason for that ? .. interesting stuff either way; either we're all under silent attack from chemtrails (still possible) or this a just an evolution of the usual Fortean 'strange things from the sky' pattern (more likely IMO) .. fish, coins, pebbles, strips of foil to confuse enemy radar during the second world war, UFO's, angels etc etc .. thanks for your reply drbates .. now I'm going to make myself a bacon sandwich. At least pigs don't fly .. or do they !!! ? .. I won't be spreading mustard gas on it ;)
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Not bullshit hear my friend ...
Like I've said Danes website and Clifford carnicoms
 
Funny your seem to no little about the elite and there agendas, Transhumanism being one
 
I'm going to avoid the debate around chemtrails being real or not, the trails in videos I've watched purported to be possible chemtrails remind me of the coloured smoke trails used by the Red Arrows in there longevity .. I almost wonder if these trails that take longer to dissipate might have been generated originally to measure pilots flight paths more accurately by the human eye but are now used by the Arrows to entertain crowds .. that doesn't suggest that chemtrails are definitely not real of course but it would be interesting to see if there is a link in the time line from the first reports of chemtrails to the development of the 'spray' technology the Arrows use ..

On a side note and funnily enough, I was sitting eating some chips looking at the Cromer sea on my work break today when a fighter jet started performing crazy tricks, all the tourist sat and watched it. Perhaps it was just a good day to practice? ..
 
Con as in condensation "ice crystals" do not linger all day .. Water particles in the air need a something to adhere to an element of sorts like let say aluminium to last ...
Tree die off bee die off .... Monsanto with the aluminium resistance crops just a coincidence?
No because nothing is just by chance with these people! If u research the elite and there agenda like as mentioned "Transhumanism" u will see the geoengineering assault is a multi pronged agenda that's being conducted on humanity for many reasons


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Swifty said:
On a side note and funnily enough, I was sitting eating some chips looking at the Cromer sea on my work break today when a fighter jet started performing crazy tricks, all the tourist sat and watched it. Perhaps it was just a good day to practice? ..
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Weird. We've had two fighters over the house today, very low very fast.
 
Coal said:
Weird. We've had two fighters over the house today, very low very fast.
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It's not that weird in Cromer to be honest .. we've got military air bases around here, we even had a flipping black hawk helicopter crash about 2 years (I think) ago just a little further up the coastal road ..
 
Christian Nash said:
Con as in condensation "ice crystals" do not linger all day .. Water particles in the air need a something to adhere to an element of sorts like let say aluminium to last ...
Tree die off bee die off .... Monsanto with the aluminium resistance crops just a coincidence?
No because nothing is just by chance with these people! If u research the elite and there agenda like as mentioned "Transhumanism" u will see the geoengineering assault is a multi pronged agenda that's being conducted on humanity for many reasons


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My goodness. Two pictures this time. Why, the only thing with more evidential value than that would be....three pictures.

I've looked at the websites you suggest and while I'm not convinced by them, I have a couple of questions:

1. Who are the 'elite' supposed to be this time around? Are we talking Rosicrucians, Masons, Ordo Templi Orientis, Annunaki lizard people, Big Pharma, the Bilderberg Group, etc?

2. What exactly is wrong with transhumanism? It sounds rather utopian to me.
 
Coal said:
Weird. We've had two fighters over the house today, very low very fast.
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One flew low over my office yesterday, making a racket.
It's not that unusual though, as Duxford is nearby.
 
RillatonCup said:
1. Who are the 'elite' supposed to be this time around? Are we talking Rosicrucians, Masons, Ordo Templi Orientis, Annunaki lizard people, Big Pharma, the Bilderberg Group, etc?
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Rich buggers. That's all. We can probably leave it at that.
 
I'm not sure this has anything to do with chemtrails at all but I am pursuing a personal avenue of interest on how they could be achieved if they are real .. the tech of it all .. Red Arrow display pods only that is ..

 
RillatonCup said:
My goodness. Two pictures this time. Why, the only thing with more evidential value than that would be....three pictures.

I've looked at the websites you suggest and while I'm not convinced by them, I have a couple of questions:

1. Who are the 'elite' supposed to be this time around? Are we talking Rosicrucians, Masons, Ordo Templi Orientis, Annunaki lizard people, Big Pharma, the Bilderberg Group, etc?

2. What exactly is wrong with transhumanism? It sounds rather utopian to me.
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Beginning to think with bone head comments like this I'm on mettabunk
 
Christian Nash said:
Beginning to think with bone head comments like this I'm on mettabunk
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Let's spin off on a credible provable tangent and discuss the 'nuts and bolts' mechanics of how chemtrails could be mechanically achieved ... I've only got as far as the display dissipation of the red arrows and agricultural crop spraying so far ... and I'm off for a nap now ;)
 
Don't no,don't no they don't even know,and wouldn't care even if they did no!
I'd like to think this isn't happening but I'm afraid it is! Kidding ones self into thinking these things aren't happening is living in a bubble that very soon on course to be broken!
 
Wouldn't living in a bubble be the perfect defense?
 
davidplankton said:
Wouldn't putting stuff in the water be easier?
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There was an article in FT magazine a while back discussing the urban myth of LSD being put in water supplies to drug up areas, the conclusion reached was that the amount needed to achieve that isn't possible to produce for a few different reasons ..
 
My objections to the chemtrail idea:
(a) To produce such vast quantities of chemicals, you would need a HUGE mining operation and HUGE factories all over the world. Where are they?
(b) If the powers that be, NWO or Illuminati are behind this and it's actually happening on such a HUGE scale, they are also poisoning themselves. They get to breathe in their own noxious substances. I don't believe they'd do that.
 
Mythopoeika said:
My objections to the chemtrail idea:
(a) To produce such vast quantities of chemicals, you would need a HUGE mining operation and HUGE factories all over the world. Where are they?
(b) If the powers that be, NWO or Illuminati are behind this and it's actually happening on such a HUGE scale, they are also poisoning themselves. They get to breathe in their own noxious substances. I don't believe they'd do that.
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I'd like to know if it is possible to spray chemtrails ... the nuts and bolts of the debate so to speak .. exactly how would a plane need to be modified to be able to achieve that is an interesting avenue of exploration to me.
 
Planes produce enough global warming-causing fumes by burning normal plane fuel, isn't that bad enough without inventing science fiction additions to the pollution matter?
 
GNC said:
Planes produce enough global warming-causing fumes by burning normal plane fuel, isn't that bad enough without inventing science fiction additions to the pollution matter?
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That's a different and equally valid conversation GNC (no offence) .. I'm taking about the science behind how chemtrails could be produced .. which metal would the rings be made of to attach to the nozzles etc ... then we might get closer to the truth.
 
None taken! I was pointing out that jet planes do indeed pollute the atmosphere, they just don't add science fiction elements to it, because the technology is non-existent.
 
GNC said:
None taken! I was pointing out that jet planes do indeed pollute the atmosphere, they just don't add science fiction elements to it, because the technology is non-existent.
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I don't know if it's non existent or not, thanks for your response GNC :) .. I just think it would be fun to drop the aluminium foil hat wearer approach to this subject, 'brush the leaves aside' for a moment and call on people who know about aeroplanes only to see if chemtrails could indeed be possible or not ..
 
I'm not an engineer and I don't play one on television, but imagine if you devised something to put on the exhaust pipe of your car to disseminate chemicals. Pretty soon you're going to end up with a car that is suffering serious maintenance issues. Wouldn't a jet plane be the same? Exhaust fumes aren't created for a laugh, they're necessary waste product to keep the engines running, and if something was added to them that got in the way you're going to end up with a lot of crashed planes.
 
I've seen a few videos online where people are saying 'look - this is proof that chemtrails are real' and you can see clearly that the aircraft is dumping excess fuel before coming in for a landing.
 
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