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Contrails & Chemtrails

Sinister types are dumping 'stuff' onto us, see:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1469000/1469489.stm

While you're there have a look at the link to the homepage of the company that's doing it.
There was a brief video on the ITN news at ten that showed them bombing a cloud with their gunk. Several things occured to me when I saw it.

The bombing run produced an impressive white trail. Contrailish in appearance but wider and of short duration.
They claim that the gunk disperses or absorbs clouds, and cloud strangeness has been a feature of some contrail reports.
The residue, a 'harmless' clear gel falls to earth and breaks down. There have been reports of falls of 'stuff' in the recent past.
They are using an old Canberra bomber which is old enough to start ghost stories without all the gunkiness.

If they are going public with it now then it's a fair bet that they've been gunk bombing for a while. I still think it's the space aliens tho.
 
I'm back. I believe. They are definitely up to no good. Just say no to contrails.
 
YOU HAVE ALL MADE ME VERY HAPPY

I love you all; All of you I love: I'm so happy happy happy
can we have a revolution now, please!!!???
 
To the original query, I think that the answer must be a definitave YES...
We've all read about the FBI spreading the flu over NYC to check the effects that such an attack from soviet sources on the population would have. 12 people died as a result of this.
the CIA spread San Francisco with airborne LSD to see what would happen.....
Half of the state PD forces are under federal investigation for corruption charges....
When stuff like this happens, how can they pretend that they are protecting americas national security??????
I think that the citizen ARE the nation....
But I suppose Tentet thinks a different way from me...
 
contrails

yesterday i was at a waterpark near were i live. i was in line for this one water slide when i looked up in the sky and saw a plane contrail, it was straigt like a normal one, but at the very front of it, there was no plane that i could see, it was just like the contrail was appearing out of nowhere, cause it was still being created,but there was no plane at the front of it, so i thought it was weird and started talking with one of my friends, i looked up again later and there was a gap in the contrail, it had gon straigt and then there was a gap for a little bit then it started again.... well i just thought that those things were a bit strange
 
You sure there wasn´t a plane? Here I often see contrails done by these small white planes. It is easy to miss the plane.

I do remember one day where I could count 17 contrails in the sky. That seemed weird I think. They went in all possible directions.
 
Here in Manchester it is not unusual to see six parallel trails
and the other day I saw seven crossing trails which concentrated
on one little area. Reading some posts here and elsewhere I
ought to get worried.

But I really think there are better ways to poison a population,
even if we assume They want to get us.

Mind you the rational explanation is quite weird in itself: seems
controllers like to use the same flight paths over and over,
concentrating the planes along the same lines.

Meanwhile over the pond, there are contrail surfers who are
flying up to the trails to take samples. Lots of alarming reports
of strange substances found. But it still makes no sense.

Still, maybe they already got to me. :(
 
well, it didn't look like a plane... if there was one it must have been really high up, cause i looked really closely and i couldn't see a plane... and the contrail was pretty wide, so it would of had to be a big plane.
 
While I'm still very much undecided as to the whole "contrail/chemtrail" theory, I have witnessed a few odd contrails myself.
One was fairly recently. I was walking between buildings at my work and looked up at the sky to check the weather. I suddenly saw a contrail appear "out of thin air" and begin to move in a south/southeast direction. The contrail was extremely high, and I could just make out a small black spec at the front of it. After crossing just a short distance, the contrail stopped just as suddenly as it had appeared.
On another occasion while sailing off the Pacific coast of Mexico, I witnessed a very large contrail streaking across the sky at a fairly low level. While I could clearly make out the dark colored aircraft at the front, what was unique was the way the contrail "unfolded". While the base of the contrail was very thick and confined, as it spread out it displayed a "double loop" inside two distinct borders.
Of course neither of these have to be "unexplained". IMO I think they were both normal contrails, made interesting only by the way they appeared.
 
Dozens of planes pass over my house every day. In summer, if it's windy, it sometimes appears cloudy because of the contrails. The contrails stop and start, change shape, loop, split up, form shapes and even change colour. I've a couple of photos where the contrails are glowing neon pink even though the rest of landscape is almost completely dark. Also, as the planes are mostly between 5 and 6 miles above the ground, more often than not you can't see the plane the makes the contrail. But trust me, they're there.

The best ones are the RAF crazies. They don't leave contrails but they fly so close to the ground that the windows in the house shake. A few times in the Yorkshire Dales I've looked down from Whernside and seen the top of a plane flying in the valley below me. I also was in the vicinity when one of these loonies broke the sound barrier (which they're not supposed to do), about 150 ft above my head and that was something I can tell you. It's like being blown up - and you get absolutely no warning because you can't hear them coming!
 
I work at an airport site and we get buzzed by the RAF too, which is rather worrying at times. Thought I was seeing things last month, tho, when we were buzzed by a Spitfire - expected to see the Lufwaffe following soon after.
Carole
 
The breaking up of contrails is perfectly normal caused by differing temperature levels in the atmosphere, however as to the question of poison, of course, all chemical emissions are poisoning the world.
 
James Whitehead said:
Here in Manchester it is not unusual to see six parallel trails
and the other day I saw seven crossing trails which concentrated
on one little area. Reading some posts here and elsewhere I
ought to get worried.

But I really think there are better ways to poison a population,
even if we assume They want to get us.

Mind you the rational explanation is quite weird in itself: seems
controllers like to use the same flight paths over and over,
concentrating the planes along the same lines.

Meanwhile over the pond, there are contrail surfers who are
flying up to the trails to take samples. Lots of alarming reports
of strange substances found. But it still makes no sense.

Still, maybe they already got to me. :(
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Ever heard of Ringway Airport :rolleyes:
 
"of course, all chemical emissions are poisoning the world."

You might want to keep in mind two things. Contrails are pure condensed vapors, it isn´t from the exhaust. Secondly a chemical simply means some sort of fluid, not necessarily a synthetic fluid. Water is also a chemical, and rain doesn´t poison the world.
 
And about the pink contrails, that was probably just because they were high up so they were still hit by the rays of the sun after it had set.
 
Xanatic said:
And about the pink contrails, that was probably just because they were high up so they were still hit by the rays of the sun after it had set.
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Undoubtedly! I wasn't suggesting otherwise! ;)
 
Xanatic said:
"of course, all chemical emissions are poisoning the world."

You might want to keep in mind two things. Contrails are pure condensed vapors, it isn´t from the exhaust. Secondly a chemical simply means some sort of fluid, not necessarily a synthetic fluid. Water is also a chemical, and rain doesn´t poison the world.
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It does when it's acid rain.
 
have you noticed that Acid Rain is mentioned a lot less these days? It still badly affects lakes and forest in Scandinavia, and a few statues here and there, but in all it turned out not to be the huge global disaster it was feared as. But that's sensationalist media for you.
 
I´m from Scandinavia, and we never hear about it either. I guess the enviromental groups are trying to forget they cried wolf.

And as for pink contrails, you just mentioned it right after having said they can change color.
 
Josh809 said:
well, it didn't look like a plane... if there was one it must have been really high up, cause i looked really closely and i couldn't see a plane... and the contrail was pretty wide, so it would of had to be a big plane.
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Contrails at altitude can be very wide and very noticable in comparison to an aircraft. You can regularly see contrails in imagery from the AVHRR sensor carried aloft on NOAA meteorological satellites, and these beasties only have a resolution of 1.1 km at nadir.

:madeyes:
 
The amount of airplane activity and general surveillance over domestic populations has boomed in recent years. Like with E*ch%elon, corrupt western govts. say they use such defenses to protect us from terrorism. Who do they think they are kidding. Big Brother is alive and well. And what's up with all the right wing wackos talking about environmentalists crying wolf. Ever hear of global warming? Maybe we should wait another 50 years in denial when it may be too late.
 
The whole of the UK has now been aerially photographed, by satellite, to a resolution of 30cm and is being put onto the net as we speak. So, if you thought you'd got away with that grave in your back garden, think again...
 
nwoisevil said:
Like with E*ch%elon...
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I presume you did that to thwart the e-surveillance on all international communications? Is this right? Just like they're supposed to pick up on the words Bomb, Terrorism, Cocaine - oops, damn! :eek!!!!:
 
Bingo! But who am I kidding? I have made a lifetime committment to fight these forces of evil. Basically, we need to drop a bomb-ardmant on the centralized intellectual admissions dept. Too bad for them too many of us know what the haarpo is going on.
 
nwoisevil said:
The amount of airplane activity and general surveillance over domestic populations has boomed in recent years.
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Isn't it at least possible that the apparent increase in contrails is due to an increase in air travel over the last few years. There is no need to postulate a huge conspiracy in order to account for it. (I'm not saying that there *isn't* a huge conspiracy, just that contrails don't seem to work as evidence for it.)
 
Mr. Bingo said:
I presume you did that to thwart the e-surveillance on all international communications? Is this right? Just like they're supposed to pick up on the words Bomb, Terrorism, Cocaine - oops, damn! :eek!!!!:
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A friend & I used to do that over the telephone, about twenty years ago. My friend had reason to think his phone was bugged, so we devised a game in which we would cram as many trigger-words as possible into out phone conversations:
"Did you get the DRUGS today?"
"Yes, the MARIJUANA and the HEROIN. I posted them off, along with that BOMB that I got from the IRA. GADDAFFI was really pleased when I told him, said he'd tell CASTRO on his next trip to CUBA."
"Good - now don't forget that GUN you were supposed to get from EAST BERLIN."
And so on - well, it amused us. Nothing seemed to come of it, though, unless you count the funny noises on the phone line.....
 
I´m no right-wing guy. But the enviromental groups did cry wolf about the acid rain. And as for global warming, it does seem to be happening again. Sure, global warming is happening. But do we have any reason whatsoever to believe it has been caused by human activity?
 
Actually Xantic some research has sugested that either Global Warming has reversed or never existed to begin with. It seems that the temperature measurements were taken in airportsd, areas that are themselves getting hotter due to increasing acreage of tarmac and traffic. When satelites were used to measure the actual temperature of the atmosphere rather than the air at groubd level no temperature increase was noted.

As for the ozone holes... ozone itself is a greenhouse gas; those holes dump out huge amounts of heat countering a signifigant amount of any heating that may be taking place.

You have to remember that the whole of human history has taken place in an Ice Age. In distant ages the Earth was signifigantly hyotter than it is now. I personally know of some enviromental scientists and physicists who think that we're actually facing a signifigant drop in temperature; that the ice sheets may be making a comeback tour, possibly in our lifetime.

Niles (checking his notes)
 
I think you are a right wing reactionary Xanatic. Acid rain was not made up. The only scientists who follow your status quo mumbo jumbo are scientists on the payroll of the fascist right wing. There is proof that man's actions are increasing the global temperatures and you are in the minority with your thinking. You Fortis are naive also. Your only hope is that I am some lunatic enviromaniac. There's a lot on those chemtrails, enough to find it worthy of investigation. And to this Niles character, you might want to hold your breath 'til the truth comes out. We might enter an ice age precisely because of global warming. The earth will think it is warm and the gulf streams will shut down. Your words on the ozone also failed to measure up to truth, as it has been shown that chlorofluoro carbons released by shites like Dow and/or dupont have helped more than anything to lead to holes in the ozone. The skin cancer we face now has been accelerated due to corporate pollution. While cfc's have been banned, they take 15 years to reach the ozone. We still have 10-15 years of damage to face. I wish I had more time to beat you guys down. I'm calling for all scientists with a soul to beat these guys down, their arguments that is.
 
Please lets not get into slanging matches obout whos right and whos wrong about polution and global warming, it does'nt hurt to take precautions, think of your children and your childrens children et al, what are they going to think of us if we had the chance but did nothing?:(
 
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