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A bit more with some useful links.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd257.htm

On December 19, 2004, I wrote a news column for NWVs on this very issue; see here. Immediately, my mail box filled up with assertions that the issue of contrails is just more conspiracy malarkey and it's just "steam" coming out of commercial airliners. This prompted me to write a follow up column; see here.

Over time, I met Rosalind Peterson, who has been doing the hard research on this issue; her credentials here. Rosalind's research has gone far and above what most people can imagine. One of the most important presentations she made during our meeting at the State Capitol in Sacramento, California (details here) were the water tables showing the spikes in aluminum and barium, and the FAA fly over sheets for the Mendocino area. Even the nit wit at Rep. Neillo's office was surprised when Rosalind presented these documents which clearly showed military and civilian plane patterns; color ink is used to designate which is military and which are civilian planes, private or commercial. Neillo's aide could clearly see was one set of fly overs were unidentified. These fly over patterns are silly when you look at them. They go crisscross and in circles and then simply fly off into the sunset. No one can tell you why this crazy fly over pattern on a specific day or who these planes belong to and unfortunately, Neillo's aide simply refused to look into the matter. He arrogantly told me the contrails in Sacramento that I observed from my house only three miles from the airport were from commercial jets. Of course, it makes perfect sense that 2-4 commercial jet liners like Delta or United, would take off from the Sacramento airport at the same time, fly north and south and then east and west for 3-4 hours and then head for Philly or Boston. Now, why didn't I think of that!

The one thing Rosalind can tell you: When those planes leave her area (Mendocino County), the sky is no longer a brilliant, clear blue, but a gray, drab color, the same as Sacramento and now where I live. My husband and I moved out of California last June for several reasons; some I covered in a recent column. One of the reasons is also the contrails spraying and the massive doses Sacramento has been getting for years; a couple hours drive from Rosalind's area. There is no question in my mind that the failure of our tomato plants three years running was due to the spraying and all the documentation and photos that Rosalind gave me to study clearly show the condition of our plants exactly the same as those up in Mendocino County where heavy spraying has been going on for years. Agriculture in her area as well as destruction to trees and plants is already well advanced and I shutter to think what will happen if this isn't stopped.

To my knowledge, prior to my arrival in Big Spring, Texas (between Midland and Lubbock) last June, there had been no spraying. Three weeks after I arrived, I saw the first day of it and I simply wanted to scream. This is a heavy agriculture area (cotton) with many organic growers. While the frequency of the contrails have been moderate compared to Sacramento, starting the first of this year, it has been stepped up. With the exception of Excedrin, I do not take over the counter products, never have. I do not have allergies, I don't get colds, the flu or anything else. I don't get infections, I don't get sick, I maintain a high school level weight and walk my doggies every day weather allows. It has been my goal for decades to work towards staying healthy so I won't be a burden to myself or my family. What does all this have to do with contrails?

On certain days, just like in Sacramento, the big headache hits and I don't even have to look up to know why. My husband has suffered like a dog from allergies as long as I've known him. On the spraying days in Sacramento, his sinuses went into over drive. Mine didn't bother me, but I would get a bad headache. Here in Big Spring, the spraying is not only picking up, but whatever it is, I am telling you that it is attacking our bodies. On February 16, 2007, I went out to run errands. The planes were already flying over. Within three hours the entire brilliant blue sky became drab, gray and I was sneezing every few minutes; I never sneeze. By dinner time, my head felt like a Goodyear tire and my nose was simply beat to death. I then went to Arizona and over to Austin; no more attacks because I saw no spraying during both road trips. On March 5, 2007, I walked out into my back yard with the dogs and within a few minutes, the sneezing started. I looked up and two planes were over head leaving their contrails. Within a few hours, our entire sky was gray gunk again. These two photos are from Rosalind; they're identical to our sky after spraying.


On March 7, 2007, I again went outside with the dogs and within minutes, the sneezing started and within an hour, my head felt like I was zonked out. It got worse as the day went on; by dinner my nose was dead from Kleenex swabbing. Four planes spent five full hours drenching our sky. These were not commercial air liners. I am 45 miles from Midland Airport. Here and there you will see commercial planes overhead as they leave the area, but they do not leave any contrails. These planes flying over our area are flying low enough to see they are completely white and appear to be cargo planes of some kind. March 7th was so bad, I almost couldn't function, but I stood outside and watched those four planes go north to south and then east to west, behind them were long, white streaks which turned into various patterns. There has been no spraying since the 7th and I haven't sneezed once. My best friends who live two miles away are also experiencing the same symptoms and misery.

I don't care what anyone says: what we're seeing here and all across this country is not chemtrails from commercial aircraft or military planes simply flying over. One has to ask themselves what do these pilots think their mission is? They suddenly appear over an area where the sky is absolutely, crystal blue and flying back and forth for hours leaving these long contrails behind them and leave the entire area blanketed with gray haze. Don't these pilots - whoever they are because no one from state to federal officials will tell us - what the Hell are you doing up there? If you are a pilot flying these missions or if you know someone who is and it has to be military, please contact me. I will never reveal a source, but we need someone to come forward.

Rosalind has a web site that has been documenting this whole issue. Click here to see the pictures and they are pretty much the same across the country. Mail continues to pour into my e-mail box on this issue from people who are experiencing serious medical problems; their skies are being decorated by planes flying over, departing and leaving behind gray, gunky sky. As Rosalind attempted to explain during our meeting at Rep. Neillo's office: this is an environmental disaster of monumental proportions underway. Three years ago I interviewed a man who worked for more than 30 years for the California Dept. of Fish and Wildlife; he knows Rosalind well. Allan told me the same thing about the destruction to trees and crops. This is serious and we must get to the bottom of this contrail mystery. You would think these dunderheads in the state and federal agencies would want to know themselves since they and their families are also breathing this poison which is killing the food supply and critical eco structures like trees.

I am taking a couple of steps here which I will write about later. To say I am PO'd is putting it mildly. I am a healthy adult and what I have gone through during these spraying periods has been horrendous. The symptoms only last the one day, but who knows the long term effects to our bodies? Are we to be used as guinea pigs and told just to go away? In the meantime, we need scientists and doctors to take some pro-aggressive action. First: We need samples taken within an hour after the spraying starts. Samples from leaves, trees, sickly crops that used to be healthy and humans - specifically, swab the inside of the person's mouth and nose and get it analyzed by a lab to see what's in the saliva and mucus. There is a section on health effects on Rosalind's site (click here). Rosalind and probably others have proof positive of deadly chemical spikes in the water tables. The problem is that not a single member of a state legislature or federal representative in Congress will address this issue. All constituents receive is a form letter full of bull. These same legislators laughed when Jodi Waters brought forth her allegations about the gas additive, MTBE. She was right and the environmental disaster is still being cleaned up; the human part and tragedy of people dying is still underway. The contrail issue is going to be a million times worse if it isn't stopped.

There are many, many web sites on this issue. One e-mailer send me the photo below of a C-130 and maintains the spraying is something called Operation Clover Leaf. The web site I found with this name has one section on climate change and geoengineering which you can view here. Rosalind has also been gracious enough to provide me with her flyers. They are available on my web site, link below. Print them and give them out at every meeting, work, church and to friends and neighbors.

There is a petition on line to Congress. I urge you to sign it; see here.
 
A few weeks ago there was a short letter about chemtrails in one of the free local newspapers (Spits). Now the author has published a new letter and the claims are very funny. The original letter is here (in Dutch):

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/uair01/chemtrail01.jpg

And here is my rough summary / translation:

Yesterday, 19 june 2007, THEY were at it again. The sky is full of chemtrails. For weeks the sky has been clean even though I saw many planes passing overhead.

Who said that all those white stripes were just contrails? Even those ones that keep hanging for hours?

And who can explain that the chemtrail activity stopped immediately after the media gave publicity to the phenomenon? Why didn't I see them anymore after the publications? Not even in Germany of Switzerland? I saw just normal planes, without trails.

This must set people thinking!

We are being sprayed, information about chemtrails is published, people start looking to the sky and all activity ceases. Then in the middle of june an article is published saying that: "The sky has been clear for weeks".

And immediately THEY (whoever they may be) conclude that the coast is clear and they start spraying again.

Who is crazy here? Not ME!


:D A classic!
 
A recent documentary on The Discovery Channel called "Best Evidence" talked about "chemical contrails". Although interesting, not only did it not explain anything new, the believers in chemtrails' comments did not seem to be accurately addressed (as is too often the case).

The professional debunkers essentially said,"there is no such thing, nor has there ever been, if you see something strange in the sky it's just a natural formation and you should think nothing of it." I wish I could quote the one expert verbatim, but this seemed to be the general theme.

I do encourage everyone to watch it. A couple times it was almost eerie the way the audience was addressed and how they were expected to view anything strange as perfectly normal/explainable.

I skipped the very end of the show because all they were doing to prove or disprove the allegations of Aluminum within the contrails was to obtain a random sample of jet fuel and test it for the metal. This seems to ignore a lot of the actual theory behind chemtrails (namely the particular accusation that the chemicals are injected into the contrail itself, not necessarily the fuel). Then they went further. If Aluminum is not contained in the jet fuel as shown by chemical analysis, then it's also not going to show up when the fuel is ignited, nor will it show in the exhaust, two unnecessary tests that they did after the fact, though I appreciate their thoroughness.

They really went all out on disproving one part of one theory but kind of ignored everything else. Still, it is good to see chemtrails actually being referenced in a documentary.

One other thought occurs....what happened to the story that chemtrails were being taught in schools as a way of combating global warming?
http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/Articles/Chemtrails_In_US_Schools.htm
I guess it escaped their notice, not to hold them to blame.
 
MercuryCrest said:
One other thought occurs....what happened to the story that chemtrails were being taught in schools as a way of combating global warming?
http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/Articles/Chemtrails_In_US_Schools.htm
I guess it escaped their notice, not to hold them to blame.

Someone has proposed using aircraft to spray aerosols into the atmosphere to reduce the effects of global warming. It's unlikely ever to happen - especially since the very aerosols proposed are those we spend the 80s and 90s removing from our emissions because they caused acid rain.

But just because such an idea is mentioned in a book listing some of the more outlandish ways that have been suggested for combatting global warming, does not mean chemtrails are being taught in schools ;)


Incidently, if persistent contrails really are deliberate chemtrails, maybe someone could kindly tell the MoD .......

http://www.ozone-sec.ch.cam.ac.uk/EORCU ... inties.pdf
 
This morning I was woken up by what I thought was a jet screaming past (we get military jets flying over occasionally). Looking out the window I saw not a jet, but a black helicopter travelling at enormous speed, sideways!

And, unusually, the sky is criss-crossed with contrails of varying widths/ages...

Nice to wake up to a bit of conspiracy! :D
 
ttaarraass said:
This morning I was woken up by what I thought was a jet screaming past (we get military jets flying over occasionally). Looking out the window I saw not a jet, but a black helicopter travelling at enormous speed, sideways!

And, unusually, the sky is criss-crossed with contrails of varying widths/ages...

Nice to wake up to a bit of conspiracy! :D
There's some sort of major military manoeuvres going on over, in and around Scotland, at the moment.

There were several warnings for boats and shipping, last month.
 
link

Man baffled by bizarre sky trails

Are the skies above Thanet being used to carry out some kind of bizarre experiments?

That’s the view of a Ramsgate man Adrian Sherwood, who spotted what he thinks were "chem trails" over the town on Tuesday, February 8.

He said: "They lasted much, much longer than normal condensation trails from planes – for maybe 40 minutes each. Vapour or "chem trails"

"At about 8am, the sky was full of trails from aircraft. I was out with my dog early as it was a beautiful day, and I looked up in the sky and saw about a dozen planes criss-crossing each other, leaving extremely long white trails for long periods of time. The planes looked very uniform to me, of the same kind.

"I have heard about chem trails for years. There is a conspiracy angle to it, and while I am not saying I believe in those theories, the trails were certainly there.

"The planes were criss-crossing each other back and forth in the sky for hours, until about 5pm in the evening.

"They lasted such a long time and fell from the sky very slowly, which is indicative of chemicals rather than condensation trails. I’ve never seen trails like it before. I would like to know more about it, and to know if other people saw them."

Adrian says his girlfriend and other friends also saw the heavy trails. Conspiracy theorists say the trails from aircraft could be part of experiments to control the weather, carry out mind control, or to test out aerosol chemicals.

Rock star Prince is one who believes that there is some truth to the chemical trails conspiracies, and has recently spoken about it on American TV.

They are usually dismissed as normal condensation contrails that hang in the sky for a longer amount of time due to atmospheric conditions.

Did you see the trails? What do you think -- sinister experiment or harmless vapour? Leave your comment below.

Tuesday, February 15 2011
 
And he didn't bother to get photographs of these "dozens of aircraft", which were flying about between 8am and 5pm (knocking off time for the pilots?) ? He was obviously very concerned about it all. :roll:
 
Not exactly high forteana, I was coming through the centre of Birmingham on Sunday after I missed my coach and happened upon this post-it note stuck to the window of a closed down shop on Bull Street:

chemtrails.jpg
 
So Google are behind the chemtrail conspiracy! I might have known...
 
No, I think it's just a new service they're going to introduce on Google Maps.
 
Well, I saw something vaguely interesting this evening. I was sitting with a friend out in his back garden, and glanced up to see a rather prominent contrail/chemtrail/whatever-they-are overhead. It seemed to have appeared in the last few minutes and looked like it was just above cloud level.

Anyhow, about 5 minutes later we saw another contrail thingy snaking past overhead. It was running parallel with the original trail, but looked to be at a much higher altitude. At the head of it was what looked like a glowing oval object.

Now it was a very sunny evening, so I dare say the logical explanation is that it was just a plane following an established flight path heading towards the local airport with the sun reflecting off it. From our perspective, though, it really didn't look plane shaped, and it didn't seem to be displaying any lights. It really did look for all the world as if it were glowing brightly from within. We got quite excited about it. Though admittedly we'd just drunk a bottle of wine between us.
 
Rocker Dave Mustaine weighs in...

MEGADETH frontman Dave Mustaine, who last year revealed his "birther" opinions on a Canadian talk show, saying he doubted President Barack Obama was born in the United States, has thrown his weight behind yet another conspiracy theory — this time involving "chemtrails."

The "chemtrail" conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by various government officials. This theory is not accepted by the scientific community, which states that they are just normal contrails, short for "condensation trails," as there is no scientific evidence supporting the chemtrail theory.

In two separate tweets on Saturday (January 5), Mustaine wrote: "Shame on the pilots spraying the grid lines in the once beautiful skies of San Diego. Shame, shame, shame! It's aluminum oxides & barium salts. They know what their cargo is. Only a fool or an accomplice would argue the unarguable. #chemtrails"

Mustaine made headlines last August when he said on stage during a concert in Singapore that Obama was behind recent shooting rampages near Denver and Milwaukee. He continued his diatribe by wondering where he was going to live "if America keeps going the way it's going, because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?m ... mID=184477
 
Which just proves that drugs are bad for your mental health.
 
Blogger posts bunch of videos and links... to make you believe!

The chemtrail programme that we see today began in earnest in the 90s. However the technology has existed for a lot longer and there are other incidences of its use before the 90s. One notable example was in Britain from the late 50s through to the 70s, when large parts of the country were sprayed with chemicals for germ warfare experiments. This information was locked away in Government archives and has only recently been released to the public as 50 years have now passed. Many people have had children with birth defects because of this government sponsored aerosol spraying campaign. You can read the Guardian newspaper report on this incident at this link.

The US government also deployed similar technology during the Vietnam War. They used cloud seeding technology to prolong the monsoon season to disrupt the Vietnamese supply lines. It was called Operation Popeye and was considered successful. More recently the Chinese government publicly used cloud busting technology during the Olympics to ensure that the skies remained clear. I cite these examples as evidence of weather manipulation technology that has been in use for many years. Although the chemtrail programme is slightly different, it is based upon the same technology that we know has been deployed historically.

In the 1990s, people began to notice that the contrails normally emitted by aircraft were lingering in the sky, forming cloud cover and blocking out the sun. Some of these people could see that they were being sprayed with some substance, so in order to understand what it was, they had their rainwater and soil independently tested. The tests consistently found exceedingly high levels of aluminium, barium and strontium in areas affected by spraying. These tests have now been carried out in many countries around the world with the same results. Some of the countries in which tests have been done include the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, France and many others. You can view some of these test results at the following link.

From these tests people have become aware that they are being sprayed – but this gives rise to more questions than it answers. How are they doing this? And who is doing it?

To try and answer the how, we can look at the list of patents that are related to this sort of technology, and from doing so can conclude that this is entirely possible. You can view an exhaustive list of easily verifiable patents here. These patents describe various ways of carrying out spraying. From mixing it in the jet fuel, through to dedicated spray nozzles with specially designed feeder tanks. From the patent record, we can also see that this technology has been around since before World War 2. It is also evident that some very sophisticated technologies have been developed over the years. So much so, that now it is possible to adapt nearly all types of jet aircraft to this type of use.

People investigating have been monitoring aircraft to try and identify those that are carrying out the spraying. By using flight radar and other computer applications that identify commercial aircraft, investigators are able to determine if the aircraft passing overhead is civilian or not. With these types of applications, you are able to see the flight number, airline operator and other flight details. This has enabled investigators to identify many airlines that are involved in the spraying. Sadly there are a lot of them. Also by using modern cameras with high powered lenses, many excellent videos and photos exist and have been used to help identify those aircraft that are spraying. Military tanker planes are often observed spraying in NATO affiliated countries.

Here is a small selection of existing videos and photos showing chemtrails as they are being sprayed and the effect of doing so.
http://ishtarsgate.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... hemtrails/
 
I dont think this person understands anything; let alone basic science.
 
Now, that does...look...unusual... ideas, anyone?
What is that stuff?
 
Mythopoeika said:
Now, that does...look...unusual... ideas, anyone?
What is that stuff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdO8I3p6zJ4

SpudHawg

9 months ago

Those "nozzles" are part of the flap assembly. Look at the underside of the wings on any DC-10 and you can see them. Contrails don't just form behind engines. They can also form in the vortices generated by wings, especially around winglets or other protruding objects, like the flap assembly on a DC-10.
Works for me.
 
OK, so it's just a huge mass of ice crystals being precipitated. Phew.
 
Conspiracy theories shouldn't be destroyed by facts. That ruins the fun! :lol:
 
Mythopoeika said:
OK, so it's just a huge mass of ice crystals being precipitated. Phew.
You underestimate the power of believers to rationalize. To wit:

The planes release the chemicals into the air, but the chemicals are normally not visible. It's just that whatever is in the chemicals makes the ice crystals precipitate easier as a side effect of whatever it is the chemicals actually do (fight global warming/implement mind control/block people from seeing ufos). Thus, the "chemtrails" are not the released chemicals themselves, but a sometimes visible side effect of the chemical spraying.

Or something.

;)
 
Are chemtrails poisoning us from the sky? This East Grinstead woman thinks so.
By East Grinstead Courier | Posted: March 16, 2014

AN EAST Grinstead woman claims people living under aircraft flight paths are being poisoned from the sky.
Barbara Craig, 53, believes that airlines are being used to release harmful chemicals into the sky in an attempt to modify the weather.

And she claims the chemicals, dubbed “chemtrails”, are visibly different from the usual trails left by planes, known as contrails.
Ms Craig, a qualified teacher, said: “The chemicals can leave a white or black trail. On a day when the planes are flying at the same time in the same weather conditions and some planes are leaving a trail and others aren’t, that’s when you know which ones are releasing the chemicals.”

The Canadian native, who admits she is no scientist and would prefer not to make her full address public, said she first became interested in the subject when her friend introduced her to the idea over dinner. She added: “At first I didn’t believe him so I started to watch the sky and read the media. I’m a painter so I watch the sky more closely than most. I’ve lived in the UK on and off for 30 years and in that time the cloud cover in England has changed drastically.”

The Look Up campaign, followed by “chemtrail” activists, believes that governments all over the world are participating in weather modification, known as “geoengineering” – though there appears to be no consensus even among believers on what they are trying to achieve.

“There is definitely some experimenting going on,” said Ms Craig who has also lived in Italy. “They are using HAARP microwave frequencies to heat up the atmosphere and aerosol spraying without our – the people’s – consent. The Government are doing this to block the sun’s rays because of global warming but how can you fix global warming using toxic substances which end up in our soil and rainwater? We have to work with the earth rather than superimposing our own system on top of it.

“When I was teaching in Italy I noticed the children were ill on days when the spraying was happening and my friend in Brighton who is also a teacher said the same thing.”

It has been suggested by Ms Craig and others with her views that these activities are taking place from Heathrow and Gatwick by pilots who are unaware of the practices taking place or part of the conspiracy.

A spokesmanperson for the Civil Aviation Authority dismissed the suggestion as “complete nonsense”. He said: “People have been perpetuating this myth for decades but it’s complete nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back any of it up.
“For one, it would be impossible for chemicals of this nature to be released from an aircraft without the pilot realising it and even if they were ‘in on the conspiracy’ how many people would have to be involved – engineers, loading staff on the runway and airport personnel – to cover something like this up?
“Pilots are people too, with families of their own. Why would they become involved in something like this?”

A petition against chemtrails is online at www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/take-action/directive/

Read more: http://www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/A ... z2wCgyEuu5
 
Kondoru said:
I am going to go mad. it makes sense.
Is it the vast Global conspiracy involving various civil aviation companies and authorities installing and deploying mysterious chemical sprays secreted in some way around passenger planes leaving trails apparently without the knowledge of the cabin crew, or is it the use of 'HAARP microwave frequencies to heat up the atmosphere'?

In what way does it make sense?
 
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