Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): Conspiracy Theories & Claims

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The ASA webpage on this case:

https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/go-vi-ltd-a20-1085562-go-vi-ltd.html

... provides selected excerpts of the ad reviewed and found misleading. It also summarizes the grounds for finding the ad misleading.

The bit that surprises me is that neither ASA not anyone else commenting on this case have taken note of clearly misleading ad text that could have been leveraged to assert Go-Vi hadn't really claimed to kill COVID-19 in the first place - specifically:

There's no such thing as a virus (much less coronavirus) 'cell'.
I'd noticed that and it feels like the sort of thing that in a legal discussion could be interpreted as "layman speak" and taken to mean Covid-19 viruses. Sure, "cell" is obviously the wrong terminology, but it's the sort of terminology that often gets used wrong.

BUT, on the other tentacle, if you use "Coronavirus" in the proper context(IE a category of virus defined by it's shape), you could legitimately say that it has been proven capable of destroying A Coronavirus, even if not COVID-19.

Which (like you said) is one of those weird technicalities I alluded to earlier. Claiming to kill "Coronavirus" isn't the same as Covid-19.
 

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I'd noticed that and it feels like the sort of thing that in a legal discussion could be interpreted as "layman speak" and taken to mean Covid-19 viruses. Sure, "cell" is obviously the wrong terminology, but it's the sort of terminology that often gets used wrong.

BUT, on the other tentacle, if you use "Coronavirus" in the proper context(IE a category of virus defined by it's shape), you could legitimately say that it has been proven capable of destroying A Coronavirus, even if not COVID-19.

Which (like you said) is one of those weird technicalities I alluded to earlier. Claiming to kill "Coronavirus" isn't the same as Covid-19.
H5N1 (bird flu) is an influenza virus not a corona virus, i think.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/zoonotic-influenza/facts/factsheet-h5n1
 

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There are rhinoviruses as well. They are also 'common cold' viruses.
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Speaking in 2012, prophetic words from Genesis P-Orridge:
 

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I don't think the viruses have created a "civilization" though.
New fashion trends, new ways of interacting with others, new ideas as to what should be a cultural norm..... how much more do you need for a "civilization"?
 

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New fashion trends, new ways of interacting with others, new ideas as to what should be a cultural norm..... how much more do you need for a "civilization"?

No PO suggested the viruses might create their own civilization.

Also, the impact of COVID hasn't created a civilization it's merely altered an existing one.
 

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No PO suggested the viruses might create their own civilization.

Also, the impact of COVID hasn't created a civilization it's merely altered an existing one.
Well so far anyways. It doesn't appear to be done yet.
 

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Ever since Cosi Fanni Tutti told how Genesis physically abused and tried to kill her, I've kind of gone off him.
Oh! That's news to me.
 

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A report supporting the "not from a lab" hypothesis:

Since the first reports of a novel SARS-like coronavirus in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, there has been intense interest in understanding how SARS-CoV-2 emerged in the human population. Recent debate has coalesced around two competing ideas: a “laboratory escape” scenario and zoonotic emergence. Here, we critically review the current scientific evidence that may help clarify the origin of SARS-CoV-2.

https://zenodo.org/record/5075888#.YOmCfTPivcu
 

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A report supporting the "not from a lab" hypothesis:

Since the first reports of a novel SARS-like coronavirus in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, there has been intense interest in understanding how SARS-CoV-2 emerged in the human population. Recent debate has coalesced around two competing ideas: a “laboratory escape” scenario and zoonotic emergence. Here, we critically review the current scientific evidence that may help clarify the origin of SARS-CoV-2.

https://zenodo.org/record/5075888#.YOmCfTPivcu
Hmm.... how much did the people writing that actually know about what WIV actually did? Last I heard that was still a secret.

That had a lot of "there is no record of WIV doing" but... is it the case that they didn't, or that they didn't tell us they did?
 

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Almost one quarter of people in hospital with covid19 were admitted for other ailments.

"New NHS data suggests 23% of people with Covid infections in hospital were admitted for other reasons.

Hospitals in England have released more detail than usual about the number of Covid patients in their care.

The government denies NHS pressures had previously been overstated by counting all patients testing positive.

All patients are routinely tested for Covid upon admission, whatever their reason for coming to hospital."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58025045
 

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Yeah it's very weird the Fauci is so... insistent that it's not from Wuhan, even though he's seemingly done nothing but ask them for their word of honor to verify that.
 

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Very interesting: we ask... and then we take.

Washington (CNN) US intelligence agencies are digging through a treasure trove of genetic data that could be key to uncovering the origins of the coronavirus -- as soon as they can decipher it.

This giant catalog of information contains genetic blueprints drawn from virus samples studied at the lab in Wuhan, China which some officials believe may have been the source of the Covid-19 outbreak, multiple people familiar with the matter tell CNN.

It's unclear exactly how or when US intelligence agencies gained access to the information, but the machines involved in creating and processing this kind of genetic data from viruses are typically connected to external cloud-based servers -- leaving open the possibility they were hacked, sources said.


Full Article:
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/covid-origins-genetic-data-wuhan-lab/index.html
 

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Another of these stories

Father, mother, and son all die within a week after refusing vaccine

From Portugal.

A man who lost his entire immediate family to Covid in one week is urging people to get the vaccine.

Francis Goncalves’ mother, father and brother all died in hospital within two weeks of contracting coronavirus.

Despite his parents living with underlying health conditions, they, along with his brother, refused to take a jab.
‘(My family) got caught up in a lot of the anti-vaccination propaganda that’s going around,’ he told Wales Online.

His brother Shaul, 40, had his parents – Basil, 73, and Charmagne, 65 – over for dinner on July 8, at his apartment in Portugal.
Shortly afterwards, all of them started to feel ill, with Shaul telling his brother he felt tired, and as if he was ‘filled with weight’.

The family tested positive for coronavirus and Basil and Charmagne were admitted to hospital on July 12.

As he waited for the results of a PCR test – required to travel to amber-list countries – Francis got a call from his brother’s girlfriend saying he had also been rushed to hospital on July 17.

Tragically Shaul, who was the ‘healthiest person’ Francis knew, had died by 1am the next morning.

Francis said: ‘If he wasn’t working out in the gym or running, he was going on walks. He hadn’t drunk in 15 years and ate a whole foods plant-based diet.’
 

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One of the writers of the film 'I am Legend' has clarified that the film is fictional, after conspiracy theories claimed the covid 19 vaccines would produce a similar outcome.

"One of the writers of the sci-fi film I Am Legend has clarified its fictional nature amid rumours Covid-19 vaccines would turn people into zombies.

The 2007 film, starring Will Smith, is about a failed attempt to genetically re-engineer measles, killing 99% of the world's population.

Those who survive the infection turn into mutant vampiric creatures.

Claims that something similar would happen to people receiving Covid jabs have been circulating on social media."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58164833
 

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One of the writers of the film 'I am Legend' has clarified that the film is fictional, after conspiracy theories claimed the covid 19 vaccines would produce a similar outcome.

"One of the writers of the sci-fi film I Am Legend has clarified its fictional nature amid rumours Covid-19 vaccines would turn people into zombies.

The 2007 film, starring Will Smith, is about a failed attempt to genetically re-engineer measles, killing 99% of the world's population.

Those who survive the infection turn into mutant vampiric creatures.

Claims that something similar would happen to people receiving Covid jabs have been circulating on social media."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58164833
I'm more of a fluffy yeti than mutant vampire.
 

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One of the writers of the film 'I am Legend' has clarified that the film is fictional, after conspiracy theories claimed the covid 19 vaccines would produce a similar outcome.

"One of the writers of the sci-fi film I Am Legend has clarified its fictional nature amid rumours Covid-19 vaccines would turn people into zombies.

The 2007 film, starring Will Smith, is about a failed attempt to genetically re-engineer measles, killing 99% of the world's population.

Those who survive the infection turn into mutant vampiric creatures.

Claims that something similar would happen to people receiving Covid jabs have been circulating on social media."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58164833

I received my first Moderna jab yesterday.

I will keep the board informed if I start drinking blood
 

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With further massive protests anticipated today, France is to step up security, as anti-vaxxers and anti-vaccine passport activists vandalise vaccination centres, a medical laboratory and a health centre.

Graffiti left at the attacked sites compared Macron's policies to the Holocaust and refer to health workers as collaborators.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-on-alert-after-covid-testing-centre-attacks
 

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French police instructed to arrest any protesters carrying anti-semitic banners.
Some activists in the French anti-vaxxer and anti-vaccine passport movement have been blaming Jewish MPs and intellectuals for what they regard as a loss of liberty.
The offensive banners asked "Who is behind this?" with the Q of the French word qui adorned with horns - one of the oldest anti-semitic memes.

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https://www.ouest-france.fr/sante/v...isemites-ab56cf82-fd2f-11eb-91da-5a16e76c1509
 
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