COVID-19 / Coronavirus: Disinformation, Fake News & Scams

PeteS

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I really don't know where you're going with this Ogdred.

I certainly don't envy our government having to balance the severe economic effects against the potential mortality rate, but still believe it would be best to monitor carefully what happens in neighbouring European countries as they ease up on lockdown, before we make any decision.
It's not just economic effects versus mortality rate though is it? The effects on society of confining 68 million people indefinitely will be so far ranging as to be unimaginable at this stage. I am lucky enough to be largely unaffected in most respects by the lockdown, but there will be millions who aren't' and not just economically. The repercussions will be long lasting. Ministers pay lip service to "feeling" for the population, but as usual have no idea about the lives of ordinary folk.
It's only the consent of the population that lockdown has been accepted - there's nothing any government could do if 68 million decided to return to normal life. GOG rant over.:)
 

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New Zealand: Massive car heist under cover of lockdown

It must have looked like the heist of their dreams. A whole yard full of well-maintained rental vehicles, all lined up, unlocked and ready to go - with the keys inside.

So, under cover of New Zealand's exceptionally strict virus lockdown, a group of thieves went to work.

They cut through the fence of local rental company Jucy in Auckland, lifted the gate from its hinges and began driving out the cars.

New Zealand was at a virtual standstill under the coronavirus lockdown making the theft easy. In fact, so easy it was a temptation too far - and the thieves came back for a second helping. And another.

A total of 97 vehicles were spirited away.

When news of the monster car heist hit the headlines, there was a wave of local support.

In the end, the lockdown which made the whole theft possible in the first place also became its undoing. The police say the country's standstill actually made it easier to track down the cars and those who stole them.

One by one, most of the cars were tracked down and returned to Jucy. So far, 85 of the missing vehicles have been recovered and 29 people have been arrested in connection with the heist.

While many of them have links with local gangs, the police say, it doesn't seem to have been a well co-ordinated effort, let alone one where the thieves had thought their plans through to the end.

"Hats off to the police and the community, they have been just amazing."

Inspector Shroj is confident his team will also find the cars still missing.

"We got 85 back so far and there's no reason why we shouldn't get the other 12 as well."
 

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I got a letter from my local hospital Cardio-respiratory unit the other week. It warned that "an unknown group of people" are knocking on doors saying they are there to service the person's CPAP machine, and went on to state that no-one from the dept will be visiting any homes, let alone servicing CPAP machines, so shut the door and call the police.

I'm still not sure whether the object was to simply gain access to a property to burgle, or specifically to get hands on CPAP machines. I recall not so long back they were being touted as a better treatment for those with Covid-19 than full-on sedation and ventilator.

Personally, I'm more concerned about how these people would know which addresses have CPAP machines...

Edited to add - I do have a CPAP, the hospital weren't firing out letters at random!
 

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I got a letter from my local hospital Cardio-respiratory unit the other week. It warned that "an unknown group of people" are knocking on doors saying they are there to service the person's CPAP machine, and went on to state that no-one from the dept will be visiting any homes, let alone servicing CPAP machines, so shut the door and call the police.

I'm still not sure whether the object was to simply gain access to a property to burgle, or specifically to get hands on CPAP machines. I recall not so long back they were being touted as a better treatment for those with Covid-19 than full-on sedation and ventilator.

Personally, I'm more concerned about how these people would know which addresses have CPAP machines...

Edited to add - I do have a CPAP, the hospital weren't firing out letters at random!
So how do these people know you've got a CPAP?
 

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A temporary setback, nothing more. All funded by CCP central. They do have rather a lot of gold reserves.
The CCP isn't actually all that stable. Their "mandate of heaven" is only good while they keep China prosperous. The political fallout from covid-19 is already beginning to hit in China. The question becomes, how many people can they incarcerate before the situation collapses?
 

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That is the question, isn't it? It would suggest to me that the records at the hospital aren't secure, which leads to all sorts of concerns.
Google “NHS data leak” if you have a spare few days’ reading time.

I’m sure that l have mentioned elsewhere on FTMB the time l visited my local surgery and saw - inches from the public counter - an A4 sheet bearing the password and login details for the practice’s laptops, lying in full view. l politely mentioned this to the receptionist, and got her best stinkeye in response.

l also noted that the terms they’d chosen as passwords wouldn’t have challenged the team at Bletchley Park for very long...

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Google “NHS data leak” if you have a spare few days’ reading time.

I’m sure that l have mentioned elsewhere on FTMB the time l visited my local surgery and saw - inches from the public counter - an A4 sheet bearing the password and login details for the practice’s laptops, lying in full view. l politely mentioned this to the receptionist, and got her best stinkeye in response.

l also noted that the terms they’d chosen as passwords wouldn’t have challenged the team at Bletchley Park for very long...

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Too many leaks in the NHS and doctors surgeries must be one of the worst offenders.
 

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Too many leaks in the NHS and doctors surgeries must be one of the worst offenders.
Make sure that you download their new location-tracking app. There’s zero chance of that being misused.

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Make sure that you download their new location-tracking app. There’s zero chance of that being misused.

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Ha - the valves on my simple phone won't accept apps. The day when we are forced to have an app is the day I drop my phone into the sea. Track it then Hancock if you can. Do they really think we are that simple?
 

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Thinks.... Government app.
Thinks..... Previous Government IT Projects.
Thinks.... Nah. I’m good.

What I don”t get about an app is that if I’m in a car park next to a guy with his windows closed and his bluetooth contacts mine and I respond, do I have to follow up and self-isolate again. If the person next door connects via bluetooth, do I then have to self-isolate even though we’re a thin wall apart? What is the range and does it recognise walls, windows and doors?
 

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My usual default position on this sort of rushed shit is...’The tech isn’t ready yet’.
 

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If they could only harness ‘Snake’ as a way to deal with social distancing, we’d all be fully gamified. And then we’re in the game as npc’s. Some of us could even be depicted with an ‘!’ above our heads indicating a quest is available. Which suits my Holographic Universe Theory and we’re all just in a metagame totally.
 

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Perhaps it will be like pokemon go, but instead of spotting a bulbasaur and going to catch it, you spot an INFECTED and run away to not catch it.

Edit. OK this clearly wasn't an original thought
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There was a post on Facebook yesterday from a woman saying her father had died, he’d tested negative to COVID-19 and yet it was still put on his death certificate and she was fuming. This post magically disappeared. We have heard similar reports from other people too.
 

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This Live Science article introduces and discusses claims made in the viral online video Plandemic.
Debunking the most dangerous claims of 'Plandemic'

Last week, a slickly produced video titled "Plandemic" began making the rounds on social media before being banned by Facebook and Twitter because of the misinformation it spread about the novel coronavirus.

Among the unfounded claims in the video is that masks "activate" the virus, that beaches have healing powers and that a vaccine against COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, will kill millions. These claims, experts in immunology and viruses told Live Science, are flatly untrue. Some echo the tropes of the anti-vaccine movement.

The video is a softball interview with Judy Mikovits, a biochemist whose 2009 paper on the causes of chronic fatigue syndrome was retracted from the journal Science after no one could replicate the findings and they were shown to be a result of laboratory contamination. In the interview, Mikovits makes a number of claims about her work and career being suppressed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Mikovits' history has been examined and explained thoroughly by other outlets such as Science magazine. ...

But beyond trying to discredit Fauci, Mikovits makes a number of assertions that could directly increase people's risk of catching SARS-CoV-2. Live Science asked experts about these assertions and what's behind them. ...

The claim: Masks "activate" the coronavirus. ...

The claim: Italy was hard-hit by coronavirus because their flu vaccine was grown in dog cells. ...

The claim: Vaccines don't work and they kill people. ...

The claim: Microbes and "sequences" on the beach are healing. ...
FULL STORY: https://www.livescience.com/debunking-plandemic-coronavirus-claims.html

Related: Fact-Check From Science Magazine:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...sial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
 

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...The first country to ease up on lockdown appears to be Spain - whose ruling faction is the Socialist Workers Party.

I sincerely hope we will have more sense and sit tight until it is definitely safe to do so...
That's not really a balanced comparison. Spain's original lockdown was far more stringent than anything seen in the UK, began earlier and was announced with the official declaration of a State of Emergency. Their 'eased' lockdown only brings it into line with something like the UK's first stage. The main difference for the average Spanish citizen being that they can now leave home to exercise - which we in the UK have been able to do since day one.

Spain's main party only wields power through it's alliance with the anti-austerity party Unidas Podemos, and even so I think I'm right in saying that it does not hold a majority, and has only managed to get through this with broad cross-party agreement...aside from Vox, who are ultra-conservative nutters and probably think the whole thing is made up by feminists and homosexuals, or is God's punishent for not letting men beat their spouses.
 
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Spain's main party only wields power through it's alliance with the anti-austerity party Unidas Podemos, and even so I think I'm right in saying that it does not hold a majority, and has only managed to get through this with broad cross-party agreement...aside from Vox, who are ultra-conservative nutters and probably think the whole thing is made up by feminists and homosexuals, or is God's punishent for not letting men beat their spouses.
wait... Wha...?
 
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