Justified & Ancient
- Mar 10, 2015
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Interesting report on BBC News Channel. A Spanish El Pais corespondent is in Wuhan and he suggests that people are cooperating with the authorities regarding the quarantine/travel ban.Now the chinese authorities are attempting to quarantine Wuhan, a city bigger than London.
Here's a report from El Pais, auto-translate.Interesting report on BBC News Channel. A Spanish El Pais corespondent is in Wuhan and he suggests that people are cooperating with the authorities regarding the quarantine/travel ban.
sending good wishes @Lobeydosser .Well I have more than a passing interest in this, my partner who works at Glasgow University and deals with Chinese students daily, took ill on Monday and is currently extremely unwell with "flu".
Well I have more than a passing interest in this, my partner who works at Glasgow University and deals with Chinese students daily, took ill on Monday and is currently extremely unwell with "flu".
Both Glasgow and Edinburgh Uni's have large student programs with China - and I myself work at Strathclyde Uni which also has a fair number of Chinese nationals as staff and students.
To the best of my knowledge there have been no directions or advice to any of those institutions staff other than a vague "follow Gov advice if travelling to the affected area".
Also, Scottish airports appear to have no measures in place at all (not even the crappy leaflet that Heathrow gets and certainly no "heat" cameras) - while there are currently no direct flights from China there are several connecting ones with Air France and Emirates arriving regularly. I believe Manchester also has flights that connect through to China on a very regular basis and I've heard nothing of any precautions being taken there.
I'm not particularly surprised though, during the 2003 outbreak I was then working at the old Glasgow college of Nautical studies - which had onsite a large student hostel and large numbers of overseas students - there were zero precautions or guidance recieved back then either.
I suspect, in reality their is probably little authorities can really do so it's all an attempt to keep everyone calm and manage the news.
Interesting article on the practicality of trying to "lockdown" a city here - https://www.wired.com/story/would-the-coronavirus-quarantine-of-wuhan-even-work/
I am struck by the fatality rate quoted in that article - they have it as higher than in was 1918 (3% vs 2.5% ) - but I see no source and that certainly doesn't seem like a high percentage given how bad 1918 was (though it's still a heck of alot of people).
Techy wanted some so I sent off for a pack of the Chinese type (that look like bra cups) and they arrived yesterday. I tried one and it fogged my specs up so I won't be bothering.China running out of face masks.
Face masks are a very common site in China, notorious for having become the greatest polluting nation in humankind's history, but with citizens wearing and then discarding masks, in a (probably futile) attempt to protect against the Coronavirus, supply is now way behind demand.
I was in Poundland yesterday and saw they had some in stock in their DIY dept at 2 for a £1.Techy wanted some so I sent off for a pack of the Chinese type (that look like bra cups) and they arrived yesterday. I tried one and it fogged my specs up so I won't be bothering.
At work I see a lot of foreign nationals and many far Eastern people wear the masks. It's normal.
If I wore anything to protect my face it would be one of the dust masks I have for cycling. They're not made of miracle anti-virus fabric but they'd stop me touching my face with dirty hands, which is one of the ways infections spread.
Wuhan is a city with the population of greater London. Now picture trying to stop all travel in & out of it in a lockdown. Stopping flying alone won't do it - people can travel to another city & fly from there..I think it's astonishing, is it not, that things haven't been more contained from an earlier stage? Stop all flights to/from the affected city immediately to quarantine the affected people instead of letting them fly who-knows-where.
In this day-and-age business can surely be conducted via the internet by whatever software does such things, and "leisure travel" should surely be seen as a non-necessity during times like this.
Are flights being stopped to/from there now? Even if they are it is potentially too little, too late. Stable door, horse bolted and all that.
I'm not saying there should be panic about it or anything, I just think measures should have been put into place as soon as the virus was detected; if it turned out to be nothing then fair enough, but at least it wouldn't now be spreading all over the damn place.
That's great, but do they have a plan to produce doctors and nurses and other staff in six days?Sources from inside China suggest that Wuhan and Hebei are in far more serious trouble than China Media is allowing to be reported. Hospitals are being crowded out, and the central authority is actually planning to build new hospitals in record time, literally in 6 days from start to finish in order to deal with the problem. The suggestion is that there are about a hundred thousand people infected, and the number is likely to rise due to things getting out of control. There have been suggestions of an evac of foreign nationals, but nothing tangible to report. This is a huge test of Xi Jinping's leadership in a crisis, and eclipsing the Hong Kong issue. It has also come out that the virus likely came from snakes served as bush meat in local delicacies.