Ogdred Weary
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His beliefs are more important to him than his job or other people's lives.Why would a pharmacist do this? What would he gain?
His beliefs are more important to him than his job or other people's lives.Why would a pharmacist do this? What would he gain?
But it just seems a contradiction that a pharmacist would believe such things? I think that's what surprised me. Needless to say it's completely unethical.His beliefs are more important to him than his job or other people's lives.
There are probably a small number of doctors and nurses who believe it too. Humans are insane and stupid.But it just seems a contradiction that a pharmacist would believe such things? I think that's what surprised me. Needless to say it's completely unethical.
I'm not at all surprised by that - my commute - back in the 80's - was an hour long drive which required absolute concentration in fast heavy traffic. I found it allowed my mind to clear between the anxieties of home life and the pressures of work. Working from home as a single person is hard enough (to clear the mind and concentrate while household things need attention) - I can't imagine what it must be like locked in with the family, especially with pre-teen children.Here's a COVID side-effect I didn't expect to see - people missing their morning and evening commutes ...
FULL STORY: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...e-left-some-missing-their-commute/ar-BB1cmU55
I must admit, I was really shocked/surprised when this was reported. They must believe it will still be effective (fingers crossed that's the case) but the fact this approach hasn't been tested made me raise an eyebrow. I will be beyond 'peeved' if they're wrong about that. I did also wonder how the 'anti-vaxxer' movement might react to this change.edit2- I'm in a ranting mood - and how dare our Government pretend that it is safe and or effective to arbitrarily decide to change the way a vaccine is administered (3 weeks to 12 weeks for the second shot) a regime which has not been trialled at all? Surely this is madness? They risk wasting all the first shots that have been given.
The proffered rationale--and I am not a doctor but I listened to a doctor explain this--is that although you can still be infected with the virus after your first shot, nobody (at all) who has so been has subsequently been hospitalised. The argument is that getting those first shots out and deferring the second until later will save more lives.I must admit, I was really shocked/surprised when this was reported. They must believe it will still be effective (fingers crossed that's the case) but the fact this approach hasn't been tested made me raise an eyebrow. I will be beyond 'peeved' if they're wrong about that. I did also wonder how the 'anti-vaxxer' movement might react to this change.
P.S. Just seen your other post and I had wondered that too (about increasing the possibility of mutations) although I don't have enough knowledge of epidemiology to say how likely that is. But yes, that could be a nightmare scenario, inadvertently mutate the virus to be more deadly/harmful...
But how long have they been vaccinating people? Hardly time for anyone to catch it again, surely? It's what, 14 days or more between being tested positive and developing severe symptoms?The proffered rationale--and I am not a doctor but I listened to a doctor explain this--is that although you can still be infected with the virus after your first shot, nobody (at all) who has so been has subsequently been hospitalised. The argument is that getting those first shots out and deferring the second until later will save more lives.
As to how long those second shots can be safely deferred, I don't know, but I sincerely hope they do.
I don't have this information, I'm afraid.But how long have they been vaccinating people? Hardly time for anyone to catch it again, surely? It's what, 14 days or more between being tested positive and developing severe symptoms?
This is all getting surreal, in my opinion. I realise there is a need to respond to a difficult situation, but you can't just flail around and hope everything goes well.
The follow-up story seems to have been missed.How did this story get past the editor?
It's incredibly stupid.
Resources are shifted around as and when needed or to where they are most likely to be needed. If the hospital wards overflow with critical patients in the new year, you will have a very different photo opportunity.
They didn't fire the medical staff and dump the ventilators in the Thames!
French riot police break up illegal rave of an estimated 2,500 people.Gotta admire that revolutionary spirit!
Whilst we celebrated in muted fashion, with a few drinks at home and perhaps a half-hearted Auld Lang Syne, the French indulged their passion for some serious rioting.
41 cars burned in Angers and, when the fire brigade responded, they were attacked with fireworks:
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de...artifice-ec96015a-4c0b-11eb-8544-189a42252dd8
Was it a Citroën 2CV?French riot police break up illegal rave of an estimated 2,500 people.
Hundreds fined for curfew-breaking.
Could only see one burnt-out car in the video.
https://www.ouest-france.fr/bretagn...eufeurs-verbalises-par-la-gendarmerie-7106043
That really would have been a shame!Was it a Citroën 2CV?
I don't get much reading done now. I did all my reading on the train commute. I really miss that.Here's a COVID side-effect I didn't expect to see - people missing their morning and evening commutes ...
FULL STORY: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...e-left-some-missing-their-commute/ar-BB1cmU55
A 2CV might be one of the more sensible cars to own in the New Normal! Unfortunately one is now worth more than all my cars added together.That really would have been a shame!
Thankfully, it looks like some sort of modern MPV.
I do not miss the cost, traffic (when I drove) or stinky commuters (when I got the Underground train) of my commute, but as i have written elsewhere, I have yet to master "switching off" after work.Here's a COVID side-effect I didn't expect to see - people missing their morning and evening commutes ...
Hold on there. The Oxford vaccine uses more conventional, tried and tested methods.People on Teesside refusing the foreign-made vaccine, preferring to wait for the British one!
What fucking planet am I living on? Christ on a bike, that's depressing. Fucking, fuckity fuckwits if ever there were. Frankly I'd prefer the Pfizer if I was allowed to take it, for its greater fucking efficacy! Sorry about the swearing but some people are twats.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ill-wait-english-one-drs-19577767
FULL STORY: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2021/0...ire-flight-to-travel-privately/3851610052474/Socialite says he bought out entire flight to travel privately
A wealthy Indonesian man who shared photos from a plane where he and his wife were the sole passengers said he bought all available tickets for the flight to prevent exposure to COVID-19.
Richard Muljadi, a Jakarta-based socialite famous for his extravagant lifestyle, posted a series of photos to his Instagram story showing he and his wife traveling alone on a Batik Air flight from Jakarta to Bali. ...
Muljadi said he bought as many tickets as possible for the flight -- which boasted 12 business class seats and 150 economy class seats -- because he and his wife, Shalvynne Chang, were "super paranoid" about being exposed to COVID-19.
He did not disclose how much he paid to keep the flight private, but he wrote the amount was "still cheaper" than chartering a private plane. ...
Sexual therapist?Just listening to a debate on BBC Radio 5 Live about what constitutes a "key worker".
One account was from a teacher with classrooms still over 50% full during lockdown, as "key workers'" children have the right still to attend.
In one case, this included a child whose mum was a (go on have a guess!):
Dog groomer!
It seems that, if you are on decent terms with your boss or HR department, they will happily provide you with a letter categorising you as a "key worker" so your children may still attend school, which of course means free child-minding during work hours.
I am still slightly baffled by the fact that my status as a 'key worker' would entitle me to keep my children in school (should I have school age children, which I don't), but doesn't entitle me to have a vaccination any earlier than my age and illness status would otherwise.Just listening to a debate on BBC Radio 5 Live about what constitutes a "key worker".
One account was from a teacher with classrooms still over 50% full during lockdown, as "key workers'" children have the right still to attend.
In one case, this included a child whose mum was a (go on have a guess!):
Dog groomer!
It seems that, if you are on decent terms with your boss or HR department, they will happily provide you with a letter categorising you as a "key worker" so your children may still attend school, which of course means free child-minding during work hours.
I presume they are working on the basis that the vast majority of key workers, even if they do catch it, will have relatively mild symptoms anyway.I am still slightly baffled by the fact that my status as a 'key worker' would entitle me to keep my children in school (should I have school age children, which I don't), but doesn't entitle me to have a vaccination any earlier than my age and illness status would otherwise.
So, are we vital, or not?
But what about those who, like me, are knocking on a bit and have underlying health problems? In my case, I'm 60 and have asthma. Not enough to get me a priority vaccination, but enough to mean that Covid could knock me sideways for quite a long time. The same with many (the majority) of my colleagues. Retail is often a place where older people end up, we have been dealing face to face (well, mask to mask but you know what I mean) with the general public since the beginning. And yet...I presume they are working on the basis that the vast majority of key workers, even if they do catch it, will have relatively mild symptoms anyway.
I didn't say I agreed with them!But what about those who, like me, are knocking on a bit and have underlying health problems? In my case, I'm 60 and have asthma. Not enough to get me a priority vaccination, but enough to mean that Covid could knock me sideways for quite a long time. The same with many (the majority) of my colleagues. Retail is often a place where older people end up, we have been dealing face to face (well, mask to mask but you know what I mean) with the general public since the beginning. And yet...
Sorry, Cochise, I didn't mean to imply that you did agree! We are hoping that what you say is the case! I did have one wonderful customer who, on being told that his favourite shop people weren't eligible for the vaccine, said 'well, if you haven't had it by now, with all this, you probably won't get it!' We do seem, as a general body, to be pretty healthy and I think it's because of all the low level germs we get every day.I didn't say I agreed with them!
Still, if its any comfort, you have some likelihood of your immune system having acquired a degree of resistance due to being out and about and no doubt being exposed to a background level of virus. People who have been shielding for most of this time will be more vulnerable.
For some reason it's been dropped out of the discussion since the early days but you do need to acquire a virus load to develop the disease, exposure to the odd little spore here and there won't do it - but may start your immune system recognising a new threat.
I think it is first and foremost about reducing hospital admissions, especially as some hospitals are now cancelling urgent cancer operations in order to deal with the influx of covid patients. So people who have the highest chance of hospitalisation/death are being prioritised over those who have less chance, regardless of whether they might actually have a higher chance of actually catching it in the first place due to being customer facing. It's just a horrible situation for so many people.I am still slightly baffled by the fact that my status as a 'key worker' would entitle me to keep my children in school (should I have school age children, which I don't), but doesn't entitle me to have a vaccination any earlier than my age and illness status would otherwise.
So, are we vital, or not?
They continued: "People in here are moving heaven and earth to find beds in anticipation of what is coming and that's why some cancer patients even those who have been told their case is urgent are having their surgery cancelled."
Effectively the move means that choices are already being made within the health service about who should receive critical treatment.