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Creationist Bell-End Thinks T. Rex Ate Plants!

In a way I almost like how he gets around theropods having sharp pointy teeth. "They used to have herbivore teeth, but after the Fall they became carnivore teeth, which is why you don't find any evidence to back up my claims in the fossil record!"

Denial is not just a river in Egypt it seems.
 
It probably sounds like a new idea if you haven't heard it before, tbh some of the born agains I used to hang around with about 20 years back used to hold beliefs like that.

The idea that creationists are anti-evolution isn't strictly accurate, they're quite happy to accept that evolution may have occurred post-fall so that things that are so nasty god could not possibly have made them can exist.
 
From what I've read and heard (which is probably way too much, lol) they're quite happy with what they call 'micro evolution' (so that all cats are descended from one sort of 'proto-cat' made by god, for example); it's what they call 'macro evolution' (one 'type' evolving into another, like birds from reptiles) that they have a problem with.
 
Actually, creationists, born agains, etc. don't believe that we're animals at all.
 
Speaking as someone with "faith", I find 99.9% of creationists immensely irritating in their bloody-minded resistance to reason. Almost as bad as scientists (joke)
 
Without wanting to upset your trust in 'science', macro-evolution as yet is unproven. (Or at least the mechanism by which it is achieved is still uncertain). The actual proper scientists know this, of course, its the way things are reported for common consumption that distorts the picture. It doesn't invalidate the theory, but it is why it is still a theory.

As it happens, it doesn't bother me either way - I dare say if God had wanted to make macro-evolution work He would have been perfectly capable :)
 
lordmongrove said:
http://www.bubblews.com/news/990751-was-t-rex-a-vegetarian-creationist-says-yes-but-science-proves-him-wrong

Knob.
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:yeay:
 
Urvogel said:
In a way I almost like how he gets around theropods having sharp pointy teeth. "They used to have herbivore teeth, but after the Fall they became carnivore teeth, which is why you don't find any evidence to back up my claims in the fossil record!"

Denial is not just a river in Egypt it seems.
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Until the 19th century, the Mastodon was referred to as a "carnivorous elephant" due to its pointed teeth:

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and, as for pointed teeth, just look at the sharp fangs on this Fruit Bat:

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So, dentition alone isn't necessarily a sure indicator of diet.
I'm a strict vegetarian, for example, and my dentition isn't that different from that of the great apes - who are also mostly vegetarian!
 
Souleater said:
Surely creationists dont believe that dinosaurs existed at all, and that fossils were placed there by god o_O
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I thought the fossils were put there by Slartibartfast? I know he specialised in coastlines, but I thought he did the fossils too? I heard a fascinating radio documentary series in the late 1970s...
 
Urvogel said:
In a way I almost like how he gets around theropods having sharp pointy teeth. "They used to have herbivore teeth, but after the Fall they became carnivore teeth, which is why you don't find any evidence to back up my claims in the fossil record!"
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So the Creationist guy is saying.... they evolved?
 
Souleater said:
Surely creationists dont believe that dinosaurs existed at all, and that fossils were placed there by god o_O
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They think they were placed there by the Devil, to confuse us all.
 
blessmycottonsocks said:
Until the 19th century, the Mastodon was referred to as a "carnivorous elephant" due to its pointed teeth:

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and, as for pointed teeth, just look at the sharp fangs on this Fruit Bat:

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So, dentition alone isn't necessarily a sure indicator of diet.
I'm a strict vegetarian, for example, and my dentition isn't that different from that of the great apes - who are also mostly vegetarian!
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Neither of these are like the serrated, flesh rending, bone shattering teeth of T.rex. Besides we have found it's teeth embedded in other dinosaurs and shards of dinosaur bone in T.rex dung.
 
lordmongrove said:
Neither of these are like the serrated, flesh rending, bone shattering teeth of T.rex. Besides we have found it's teeth embedded in other dinosaurs and shards of dinosaur bone in T.rex dung.
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I wasn't querying T-Rex's snacking habits.
Just pointing out (no pun intended) that sharp pointy teeth may be present in herbivorous and fructivorous creatures.
 
lordmongrove said:
Texas newspaper prints creationist nutbaggery.
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New dinosaur discovery in January...

"The unnamed titanosaur could have weighed more than 69 tons".

So, that would be two of them required for breeding?

Given all the other dinosaurs that had to be on board, isn't a wonder the Ark didn't sink?
 
Urvogel said:
In a way I almost like how he gets around theropods having sharp pointy teeth. "They used to have herbivore teeth, but after the Fall they became carnivore teeth, which is why you don't find any evidence to back up my claims in the fossil record!"

Denial is not just a river in Egypt it seems.
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Carnivorous elephants and fruit bats aside, one further point worthy of mention here; some theropod dinosaurs - smaller cousins of T.Rex, such as coelurosaurs, were thought to be largely herbivorous.

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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101220163052.htm
 
Slightly OT, but still related to evolution, and not worth a thread of its own. Some of the above discussion and images reminded me of a cartoon I saw many years ago. I searched and found it. (See below.)

The background is that Darwin's theory of evolution was resisted at the time by many religious people, and it was fashionable to find ways to ridicule it.

This was also the time of the penny farthing bike, itself a "ridiculous" thing to those who are inclined to be judgemental of anything they don't understand. This cartoon mocks cyclists and evolution: two birds with one stone. It is from Punch magazine. Below it is an image of penny farthing racing, for comparison.
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