Crotal Bell

JamesWhitehead

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#62
I once showed that famous adaptation to a class of extremely bored Year 10s. Pearls before swine!

They really might have liked it a bit more if it had featured a monster as depicted! :domo:
 

Dr_Baltar

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#64
I think I've found out something about the whistle :) I think it's a post Medieval Tudor Decorated Hawking Whistle. I've just been looking at an almost identical one (albeit in better condition than mine) it was found in Wiltshire and sold for £85 at auction. I'd never sell mine but now I'm excited!
I posted this song on the What Music thread, but this video of it suits this thread better.

 

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#65
Found my first crotal bell (or half of one) in the Summer on pea stubble together with a thruppenny bit. The bell could have hung around a
sheeps neck to amuse the Shepherd. The crotal bell (or half of one) on the right detected last week must have hung on a bull.
One day maybe I'll find a whole one.

Crotal_2368.jpg
 

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#67
Is this a solid casting, or a curled pressing?

I wonder whether this is something as mundane as a casement latch/bolt-head, or actually a Middle Ages jewelry fragment?
Ha.....first thought...a whistle lol
 

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#68
I think I've found out something about the whistle :) I think it's a post Medieval Tudor Decorated Hawking Whistle. I've just been looking at an almost identical one (albeit in better condition than mine) it was found in Wiltshire and sold for £85 at auction. I'd never sell mine but now I'm excited!
Now you can be a hawk whisperer
 

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#69
'Oh, whistle and I'll come to you, my lad'

I often wondered about the 'my lad' bit.

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#71
I did tell Fruitbat about the board changeover so hopefully she'll be able to wade back into this conversation soon.
 

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I often wondered about the 'my lad' bit
You'll be thinking of the M.R. James "Ghost Stories of an Antiquary" story of that name where a bronze whistle is unearthed from a Templar shrine, but the actual title is from the 1793 Burns poem, where it is the ode of the "Lad's" lady-love, and the 'whistle' is to say "the coast is clear"


Whistle, an' I'll come to ye, my lad,
O whistle, an' I'll come to ye, my lad,
Tho' father an' mother an' a' should gae mad,
O whistle, an' I'll come to ye, my lad.


But warily tent when ye come to court me,
And come nae unless the back-yett be a-jee;
Syne up the back-stile, and let naebody see,
And come as ye were na comin' to me,
And come as ye were na comin' to me.
O whistle an' I'll come, &c.


At kirk, or at market, whene'er ye meet me,
Gang by me as tho' that ye car'd na a flie;
But steal me a blink o' your bonnie black e'e,
Yet look as ye were na lookin' to me,
Yet look as ye were na lookin' to me.
O whistle an' I'll come, &c.


Aye vow and protest that ye care na for me,
And whiles ye may lightly my beauty a-wee;
But court na anither, tho' jokin' ye be,
For fear that she wile your fancy frae me,
For fear that she wile your fancy frae me.
O whistle an' I'll come, &c.


Most of the Lallans Scots should be comprehensible to many English speakers (esp Northerners) but if you're in any doubt 'back-yett be a-jee' means "back gate be ajar" (ie left open as signal). And "Syne up the back-stile" is exactly the same as the colloquial English 'shin-up' (as in drainpipes/walls....or stiles).

I'm now wondering if I've actually ever heard (seen, or used) the term "shin-up" at any point, previously, since last century.
 
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