Current State Of The War Against Terror

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I reckon Islamists weren't involved in this incident.

Piglets probed over Uganda security breach

Two painted piglets are outside the parliament building in Kampala

Two piglets are being examined by police in Uganda for "terrorism-related material" after being let loose in parliament by anti-corruption protesters.

Reports say the animals were daubed in the colours of the governing party with slogans alleging MPs are corrupt.

Two protesters are in custody awaiting trial following the incident earlier this week in the capital Kampala.

Several police on duty at the time were suspended over the security breach.

They face charges of neglect of duty, spokeswoman Polly Namaye told AFP news agency.

As for the piglets, she said it was "standard practice" to test for terrorism-related material as "there could have been another motive other than a protest". ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27955796
 

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Heathrow and Manchester issue must-be-charged gadget advice
By Leo Kelion, Technology desk editor

Heathrow and Manchester airports have told passengers to ensure all electronic devices carried as hand baggage are charged before travel if they are flying to the US.
The move follows a request from the US that "certain overseas airports" implement enhanced security measures.
A new rule states that if a "device doesn't switch on, you won't be allowed to bring it on to the aircraft".

However, it is being applied differently at the two sites.
Checks will be carried out at London's Heathrow both at security control and boarding gates, while a spokeswoman for Manchester Airport said that device power checks would only be done by airline staff at departure gates.
British Airways has said that its customers face being made to rebook if they are found in possession of an uncharged device.

The Department for Transport declined to say whether other UK airports would enforce similar restrictions on flights to the US.

etc...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28193654
This is just an extension of something the US has been doing for years.

On my first (and only) flight to the US, in 1990, I had a Psion Organiser II with me. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_Organiser )

The Immigration Officer at Miami raised an eyebrow at this, and asked me to switch it on. I did so, and it displayed its normal start-up menu.
(See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:psion ... dified.jpg )

He seemed satisfied that it hadn't blown us all to Kingdom Come, and waved me through! 8)
 

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Matt cartoon today:

A woman is in an airport departure lounge, speaking on her mobile phone:

"This is your mother. Airport security want to know why you never phone me."

8)
 
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Matt cartoon today:

A woman is in an airport departure lounge, speaking on her mobile phone:

"This is your mother. Airport security want to know why you never phone me."

8)
Excellent!
 

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I guess this belongs here...

Nick Robinson, Political editor

Emergency phone and internet data storage law to be brought in

Emergency legislation will be brought in next week to force phone and internet companies to log records of customer calls, texts and internet use.
Ministers say it is necessary so police and security services can access the data they need after a legal ruling which declared existing powers invalid.
The proposed law has the backing of Labour and the coalition parties.
A special cabinet is being held to agree the planned laws, which will only last until 2016.

Prime Minister David Cameron and his Lib Dem Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg will tell a special cabinet meeting on Thursday that emergency legislation is necessary to keep the country safe.
A recent ruling of the European Court of Justice has removed the obligation on telecoms companies to retain records of when and who their customers have called, texted and emailed.
Without a new law Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg will claim that that information could be destroyed within weeks by companies fearing legal challenges.

Labour is backing emergency legislation after all-party talks agreed that this law would enshrine existing rights and not be used to extend them by re-introducing the so-called "snoopers charter".

It will also bring in so-called safeguards including:
The creation of a new Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to examine the impact of the law on privacy and civil liberties
A review of the controversial RIPA - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act
Annual government transparency reports on how these powers are used

The law will include a so-called sunset clause - ensuring that these powers will die in 2016 - so there will be a longer and wider debate about what replaces them.
Critics will no doubt argue that the time for that debate is now. To pass any new law in just a week is rare. So too is it to have the backing of all three main parties even before it is published.

On a subject as sensitive as giving the police and security services access to phone and internet data this is bound to be controversial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28237108
 

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A lot of people will be of the opinion that this heralds the beginning of a new dark era of surveillance.
It's not the 'beginning' of anything, just a response to a wimpish EU ruling:
A recent ruling of the European Court of Justice has removed the obligation on telecoms companies to retain records of when and who their customers have called, texted and emailed.
Without a new law Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg will claim that that information could be destroyed within weeks by companies fearing legal challenges.
So in fact the status quo will prevail in UK, until 2016. (It seems France is doing something similar - can't find a link right now.)
 

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Without a new law Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg will claim that that information could be destroyed within weeks by companies fearing legal challenges.
Not like the disappearance of the Westminsister paedofiles and the files on Britain's role in rendition which the dog ate.

What's just as depressing as our country moving further into surveillance state mode is Miliband went along with it. He has one job as leader of the opposition and that is to oppose. he gets paid for that. Now we have 3 parties all exactly the same. There is really no point in voting. Save yourself a walk to the polling station next time.
 

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There is really no point in voting. Save yourself a walk to the polling station next time.
No. That's the worst thing you can possibly do. Go to the polling station and vote for someone outside of the Big Three. That's the way to have an impact.

Look at UKIP - love 'em or loathe 'em, they're having a real impact on the mainsteam parties and theire approach to Europe and immigration. Absolutely no reason why other parties can't have a similar impact in different areas.
 

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Quake42 said:
There is really no point in voting. Save yourself a walk to the polling station next time.
No. That's the worst thing you can possibly do. Go to the polling station and vote for someone outside of the Big Three. That's the way to have an impact.

Look at UKIP - love 'em or loathe 'em, they're having a real impact on the mainsteam parties and theire approach to Europe and immigration. Absolutely no reason why other parties can't have a similar impact in different areas.
UKIP? Don't make me laugh. I could vote for a proper Tory and get reintroduction of the workhouses and the dismantling of the NHS thrown in for free! Today's politics isn't representative of public opinion - these pisspoor excuses of political parties and the media are shaping your opinion around their own narrow ideological and weak parameters and as soon as some party comes up with some spine, ideals and vision, the better.

Farage...Statesman.... really?
 
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It might have been a midget assassin.

TODDLER ALERT

USA: A toddler squeezed through the White House gates on Thursday evening, causing a brief security lockdown on Pennsylvania Avenue and amusing White House reporters awaiting late-breaking news on Iraq.

“We were going to wait until he learned to talk to question him, but in lieu of that he got a timeout and was sent on his way with parents,” said Secret Service spokesman Edwin Donovan.

Secret Service agents regularly close off the area due to suspicious packages near the White House, but pint-sized intruders are far less common.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/quir ... 78912.html
 

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jimv1 said:
Quake42 said:
There is really no point in voting. Save yourself a walk to the polling station next time.
No. That's the worst thing you can possibly do. Go to the polling station and vote for someone outside of the Big Three. That's the way to have an impact.

Look at UKIP - love 'em or loathe 'em, they're having a real impact on the mainsteam parties and theire approach to Europe and immigration. Absolutely no reason why other parties can't have a similar impact in different areas.
UKIP? Don't make me laugh. I could vote for a proper Tory and get reintroduction of the workhouses and the dismantling of the NHS thrown in for free! Today's politics isn't representative of public opinion - these pisspoor excuses of political parties and the media are shaping your opinion around their own narrow ideological and weak parameters and as soon as some party comes up with some spine, ideals and vision, the better.

Farage...Statesman.... really?
The point is, vote for SOMEONE other than the main parties, maybe the greens or whatever. Or the main parties will continue to assume that non-voters are perfectly happy with the way things are.
 

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Al-Qaeda India branch’s first attack ends in dismal failure as jihadists 'raid wrong ship'
The group established only last week attempted to storm a ship in the Karachi port on the anniversary of 9/11, but reports suggest the mission ended in disaster
By Dean Nelson, South Asia Editor
3:00PM BST 12 Sep 2014

Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the new group announced last week by Ayman al-Zawahiri to bolster his flagging fortunes, suffered a setback when three of its fighters were killed and seven arrested in its first ever terror attack.

Heavily armed militants attacked a naval dock in Karachi's sea port on Saturday night and targeted what they believed was an American aircraft carrier, but instead found a Pakistan Navy frigate and were overwhelmed before they could cause any damage, investigators said.

...Two Pakistan Navy guards were wounded in the fighting.

etc...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -ship.html

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rynner2 said:
Al-Qaeda India branch’s first attack ends in dismal failure as jihadists 'raid wrong ship'
The group established only last week attempted to storm a ship in the Karachi port on the anniversary of 9/11, but reports suggest the mission ended in disaster
By Dean Nelson, South Asia Editor
3:00PM BST 12 Sep 2014

Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the new group announced last week by Ayman al-Zawahiri to bolster his flagging fortunes, suffered a setback when three of its fighters were killed and seven arrested in its first ever terror attack.

Heavily armed militants attacked a naval dock in Karachi's sea port on Saturday night and targeted what they believed was an American aircraft carrier, but instead found a Pakistan Navy frigate and were overwhelmed before they could cause any damage, investigators said.

...Two Pakistan Navy guards were wounded in the fighting.

etc...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -ship.html

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Australia raids over 'Islamic state plot to kill'

Australian police have carried out major anti-terror raids triggered by a call from a senior Islamic State militant for "demonstration killings", Prime Minister Tony Abbott says.
The raids, involving at least 800 heavily-armed officers, took place in Brisbane and Sydney.
Fifteen people were arrested and one person has been charged with conspiracy to prepare a terrorist attack.
Police say the anti-terror operation was the largest in Australian history.

Reports in the Australian media said a plot involved beheading a random member of the public after draping them in an Islamic State flag.
Addressing a press conference, Mr Abbott said "direct exhortations were coming from an Australian who is apparently quite senior in ISIL (Islamic State) to networks of support back in Australia to conduct demonstration killings here in this country".
"So this is not just suspicion, this is intent and that's why the police and security agencies decided to act in the way they have."

et bloody cetera..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-29245611
 

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Shocking - and in Australia of all places. The BBC article, appallingly, talks about the risk of the raids "antagonising the broader Islamic community". Well, if stopping random beheadings antagonises the allegedly peaceful and moderate majority, we have a bigger problem than I thought.
 

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Shocking - and in Australia of all places. The BBC article, appallingly, talks about the risk of the raids "antagonising the broader Islamic community". Well, if stopping random beheadings antagonises the allegedly peaceful and moderate majority, we have a bigger problem than I thought.
I couldn't agree more, but the MSM will never point this out. We are living in a world where we are too frightened to say "it, looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck, it quacks like a duck, so shoot the fing duck!!"

I noted with a sense of despair today that British Muslims issued a letter rejecting IS violence. Words like "horse" "bolted" and "stable door" sprang to mind. (and that's being polite, my first thought was towering hypocrites

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Quake42 said:
Shocking - and in Australia of all places. The BBC article, appallingly, talks about the risk of the raids "antagonising the broader Islamic community". Well, if stopping random beheadings antagonises the allegedly peaceful and moderate majority, we have a bigger problem than I thought.
It depends.

If you go after people who have no actual links with ISIS or other Jihadists then it could back fire badly, people will distrust the police.

Anyone who has made a threat of violence should be seen as a target even if they are just a nutter or a fantasist. But belief in political islam itself doesn't make someone a potential terrorist. More a case for monitoring there.

When Internment was introduced in Northern Ireland the vast majority of those lifted initially were not members of the IRA.

Socialists, Civil Rights Activists were deliberately targeted by the RUC. The only Protestants arrested were non-violent activists. Not a single loyalist was arrested.
 

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It depends.

If you go after people who have no actual links with ISIS or other Jihadists then it could back fire badly, people will distrust the police.

Anyone who has made a threat of violence should be seen as a target even if they are just a nutter or a fantasist. But belief in political islam itself doesn't make someone a potential terrorist. More a case for monitoring there.

When Internment was introduced in Northern Ireland the vast majority of those lifted initially were not members of the IRA.

Socialists, Civil Rights Activists were deliberately targeted by the RUC. The only Protestants arrested were non-violent activists. Not a single loyalist was arrested.
No. Please don't use Eire as an analogy for these lunatics. The Irish had a genuine grievance but went about it the wrong way (IMO)

There is a world of difference between a legitimate claim for sovereignty as opposed to trying to impose a ridiculous ideology on people who will be executed if they don't comply.
 
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Stu73 said:
It depends.

If you go after people who have no actual links with ISIS or other Jihadists then it could back fire badly, people will distrust the police.

Anyone who has made a threat of violence should be seen as a target even if they are just a nutter or a fantasist. But belief in political islam itself doesn't make someone a potential terrorist. More a case for monitoring there.

When Internment was introduced in Northern Ireland the vast majority of those lifted initially were not members of the IRA.

Socialists, Civil Rights Activists were deliberately targeted by the RUC. The only Protestants arrested were non-violent activists. Not a single loyalist was arrested.
No. Please don't use Eire as an analogy for these lunatics. The Irish had a genuine grievance but went about it the wrong way (IMO)

There is a world of difference between a legitimate claim for sovereignty as opposed to trying to impose a ridiculous ideology on people who will be executed if they don't comply.
I'm not using it as an analogue. The IRA always had limited demands and were prepared to compromise. Martin McGuinness is now a Minister of The Crown.

Just the methods used. If you arrest large numbers of people who have no links with jihadists then you risk alienating not just them but wider sections of the Muslim community as well.

Perhaps the Australian Police were spot on in their actions.
 

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Internment was a blunt instrument and was completely counterproductive as you say - but that's not what happened in Australia last night. There were raids and arrests but AFAIK there was no attempt to detain hundreds of people without trial.
 
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Quake42 said:
Internment was a blunt instrument and was completely counterproductive as you say - but that's not what happened in Australia last night. There were raids and arrests but AFAIK there was no attempt to detain hundreds of people without trial.
I just thought the BBC caution might be justified.
 

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Fight fire with fire!

You've just been bombed... by a woman: Emirate's first female pilot lead the blitz on ISIS as Arab states send squadrons of fighters to blast terror group in Iraq and Syria
By Ted Thornhill for MailOnline and Reuters
Published: 08:29, 25 September 2014 | Updated: 03:09, 26 September 2014

The son of the heir to the Saudi Arabian throne has personally put the royal seal of approval on the attacks against Isis, by taking part in bombing runs.
Prince Khaled bin Salman, the son of Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz, has been pictured in the cockpit of his Tornado jet after piloting it in strikes against the terrorist group in Syria.
He was joined in the skies by the United Arab Emirate's first female air force pilot, Major Mariam Al Mansouri, 35, whose F-16 fighter was one of several from a group of Arab nations that are blitzing Isis.
...
Major Mansouri, from Abu Dhabi, made a remarkable rise through the ranks of the UAE air force. She joined it in 2007 and is now a squadron commander, according to Business Insider.
She is one of eight children and has a degree in English literature.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Syria.html

A State Department Twitter account has picked up on news that the United Arab Emirates has sent a female fighter pilot into battle, "taunting the jihadists that death at her hands means they will forfeit the 72 virgins in paradise promised to those who die fighting for Islam", the [Daily Telegraph] adds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-29372512
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rynner2 said:
A State Department Twitter account has picked up on news that the United Arab Emirates has sent a female fighter pilot into battle, "taunting the jihadists that death at her hands means they will forfeit the 72 virgins in paradise promised to those who die fighting for Islam", the [Daily Telegraph] adds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-29372512
. . . . :twisted:
...and there is the crux of the problem. Allowing people who believe in fairy tales to have access to modern weaponry.
 
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...and there is the crux of the problem. Allowing people who believe in fairy tales to have access to modern weaponry.
You've seen, An Officer and a Gentleman and Top Gun, then?
 

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Pietro_Mercurios said:
Cavynaut said:
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...and there is the crux of the problem. Allowing people who believe in fairy tales to have access to modern weaponry.
You've seen, An Officer and a Gentleman and Top Gun, then?
To be honest, no. They are films I guess?
 

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Looks like another bunch of Isil fighters won't get to paradise...

British Tornado 'with female air crew' bombs key Isil position
Kurdish divisional commander tells Telegraph air strike by British Tornado jet on Isil position in Rabia had female air crew on board

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One of the British air crew was a woman, according to Brigadier Hamid Hashem, one of the two Kurdish divisional commanders spearheading the attack on the town. "The operations room were in direct contact with the cockpit, and a woman's voice answered," he said.

Defence sources confirmed that two British Tornados had been called in to a mission around the town of Rabia on Wednesday afternoon, but the MoD refused to confirm the name or sex of the air crews.

etc...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ition.html
 
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The doves still managed to drop some missiles.

CHINA BODY-SEARCHED 10,000 PIGEONS
CHINA: The 10,000 doves released in a ceremony for China’s National Day underwent unusual scrutiny, each having its feathers and anus checked for dangerous materials, state-run media reports said, reflecting government jitters over possible attacks.

The symbols of peace were released at sunrise in Beijing’s symbolic heart of Tiananmen Square in a ceremony for the October 1 holiday to celebrate the 65th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China.

Beijing domestic security police officer Guo Chunwei was quoted in the Jinghua Times as saying workers checked the wings, legs and anus of each pigeon ahead of time to ensure they were “not carrying suspicious material”. The entire process was videotaped, and the birds were then loaded into sealed vehicles for the trip to Tiananmen Square, the newspaper said. ...

http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/quir ... 89556.html
 
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