David Icke & His Work

Coastaljames

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I like Icke.


He's a little dull now admittedly. Believes things a little too easily and has lost his questioning mind, I think. But I like where he's coming from and I think his stuff about societal control is spot on. I don't agree with everything he says and hey, let's be frank- he makes money by saying it, but still. I think he's an interesting guy and talks about interesting things. I'm not about to unconditionally and blindly follow him and his ideas just like I wouldn't do that for anyone. I just enjoy his work. In smallish doses. And less and less as time goes by.

I would say that his nearly 5 hour "Ruled by the Gods" lecture that I watched in about 2002 really changed the way I thought about a lot of things and opened my mind to many new ways of looking at things. It was hugely important for me to see and I will always be grateful to him for it.

It's here, crap quality but the sound is workable -

 

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The whole thread is a bit silly since it's about Icke, but I also get a bit perturbed when people start throwing around the old 'anti-semitic' insult whenever someone makes a legitimate comment about Israeli politics or anything related to that ideology.
 

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The whole thread is a bit silly since it's about Icke, but I also get a bit perturbed when people start throwing around the old 'anti-semitic' insult whenever someone makes a legitimate comment about Israeli politics or anything related to that ideology.
I don't get pertubed. I don't care- because it's a nonsense.
I'd like to agree.... Pro-zionists who use insults do so because of their inability to adress their opponents' arguments and of the vacuity of their own arguments, and so it is tempting to ignore them. Unfortunately, as simplistic as their doxa is, it is quite sucessfull in the media, and it needs to be countered regularly.
Similarly, it is inappropriate to also call Icke an anti-semite, or even a rampant anti-semite, because of his attacks on bankers and actors of the globalized financial and trading system. They are evils on their own, and they don't need to be equated with Jews to be critiziced (the assimilation could, again, be analysed as the mark of a rampant judeophobic anti-semitism). Icke's analysis of the way they work is quite fine, however off the mark he is when it comes to reptilians (which suggests that his systematic promotion by the media is a tactic to discredit any critic of economic elites and globalization).
 

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That reviewer left two-thirds of the way through: after six hours.

I'll say that judging just from his temperament and persona, I like David Icke. He comes across as affable and keen to persuade you for your own good but content if he comes up short and succeeds merely in making you think and ask questions -- i like that.

What I have difficulty with is his credulity. His prolix presentations are ample evidence that a) he wants his worldview to encompass every possible conspiracy theory out there, and b) everything must be tied to the latest news, current events and popular culture, as if we are always on the cusp of the most epic collapse/revalation -- it's wearying.
 

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Everything you want to know about Icke.......maybe....;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

"
Over the next seven years—in The Robots' Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001)—he developed his worldview of New Age conspiracism.[9] His endorsement of the anti-Semitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in The Robots' Rebellion, combined with Holocaust denial in And the Truth Shall Set You Free, led his publisher to refuse to publish his books, which were self-published thereafter.[10] At the heart of his theories lies the idea that many prominent figures belong to the Babylonian Brotherhood, a group of shapeshifting reptilian humanoids who are propelling humanity toward a global fascist state, or New World Order.[5][11] The reptilians use the rings of Saturn and the Moon, all reptilian constructs, to broadcast our "five-sense prison": an "artificial sense of self and the world" that humans perceive as reality.[12][13]

Michael Barkun has described Icke's position as New Age conspiracism, writing that Icke is the most fluent of the genre.[14] Richard Kahn and Tyson Lewis argue that Icke's reptilian hypothesis may be Swiftian satire, offering a narrative with which ordinary people can question what they see around them.[15] Icke has been described as an "anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist";[16] according to Political Research Associates, his politics are "a mishmash of most of the dominant themes of contemporary neofascism, mixed in with a smattering of topics culled from the U.S. militia movement."
 

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Oh, for fuck's sake. I'm all for being paranoid about aliens and invasions - as Slartibartfast once said - that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that -
but you can't go around putting your trust in 'Cosmic Truth Vibrations from distant solar systems'. Any source of information should be automatically suspect - even Truth Vibrations.

Especially unsolicited Truth Vibrations from distant solar systems. At best they are some kind of spam.
 

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I don't like the guy, but this is going a bit too far:

The Australian government is being pressured by Jewish groups and the Labor party to revoke the visa of the conspiracy theorist David Icke before a speaking tour in March.
Labor has written to the immigration minister, David Coleman, calling on him to ban Icke from the country on the basis ofhis “extreme antisemitic views, including campaigning for Holocaust denial to be taught in schools”.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...should-be-banned-from-australia-minister-told
 

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His two most recent U.K. tours had problems with venues. Groups would complain he was speaking there and the booking would be cancelled at short notice. In the end he stopped publishing the venue details and you were only informed of it shortly before the actual talk.
 

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Not really. The two are not synonymous or interchangeable. Zionists are Semites, but not all Semites are Zionists.
A zionist simply means someone who supports zionism i.e. self-determination for the Jewish people. You certainly don't need to be semitic (or Jewish) to do that (but perhaps it helps).
 
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Topic: David Icke & His Work
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Icke's credibility slipped a few notches for me when he said (according to reports) that he was the son of god.
I've googled around to try to pin down if he really said it but couldn't find anything to confirm it.
If he'd have said "a" son of god it wouldn't have been so bad.
 
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