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Dinosaurs: New Findings & Theories

New discovery quacks existing theories.

Remains of a species of herbivorous dinosaur previously unknown in the Southern Hemisphere have been discovered in Chile, challenging long-held beliefs about the range of duck-billed dinosaurs, scientists said Friday.

Measuring up to 4 meters (13 feet) in length and weighing a ton, Gonkoken nanoi lived 72 million years ago in the extreme south of what is now Chilean Patagonia.

"These were slender-looking dinosaurs, which could easily adopt a bipedal and quadrupedal posture to reach the vegetation at height and at ground level," said Alexander Vargas, director of the paleontological network of the University of Chile and one of the authors of the study published by the journal Science Advances and presented in Santiago.

The discovery demonstrated that Chilean Patagonia served as a refuge for very ancient species of hadrosaurs, a type of duck-billed dinosaur common in North America, Asia, and Europe during the Cretaceous period, from 145 to 66 million years ago.

Their presence in the remote southern lands surprised scientists, who will have to "understand how their ancestors got there," Vargas said.

https://www.sciencealert.com/remain...-changes-what-we-know-about-their-home-ranges
 
I can thoroughly recommend Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur on BBC iPlayer.
It tells the fascinating story of the most gigantic Titanosaur discovered to date and is genuinely awe-inspiring.
In fact, I felt a faint echo of the dinosaur magic I used to experience as a young lad.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p03dwy5z/attenborough-and-the-giant-dinosaur
A replica of the skeleton in the Natural History Museum London until 7th Jan2024 (at minimum £16 a ticket!)

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/visit/exhibit...MI0eyRxaCbgAMV0wSiAx1zRAA3EAAYASABEgK_dfD_BwE
 
A herbivore but wouldn't want to meet it in Jurassic Park.




New dinosaur species discovered in Thailand


Reconstruction of Minimocursor phunoiensis gen. et sp. nov. (PRC 150) in left lateral view (except reversed images of the right jugal). Recovered elements of the holotype shown in white (A); holotype with referred materials, which are not to scale, shown in light purple (B); and life restoration (C). Drawings by Wongwech Chowchuvech (A,B) and Sita Manitkoon (B). Credit: Sita Manitkoon et al, Diversity (2023). DOI: 10.3390/d15070851

A multi-institutional team of paleontologists has identified a new dinosaur species dug up in Thailand in 2012. In their paper published in the journal Diversity, the group describes where the fossil was found, its characteristics and its condition.

The fossil was uncovered at a dig site in Phu Noi, in Northern Thailand. The geological area is known as the Phu Kradung Formation. The dig site has yielded a large number of fossils over the years. In this new effort, the research team focused their effort on a fossil embedded in stone that was in good condition. It is a previously unknown species, now named Minimocursor phunoiensis.

The research team describes the fossil as an "exceptionally articulate skeleton," and suggest it is one the most well-preserved dinosaurs ever discovered in Southeast Asia. They found it to be of the neornithischian clade, which were plant-eating dinosaurs.

The researchers also found that the dinosaur was not yet mature when it died. It had four limbs but walked on two legs. It also had a long body and long tail, and a beak-like snout with a bony lump on its jaw known as a jugal boss. It also had a ridge along its pelvis. It has been dated to 145 to 163 million years ago. The team estimates that when full grown, the dinosaur would have been approximately 2 meters long.

https://phys.org/news/2023-07-dinosaur-species-thailand.html
 
Watch the birdie!


close up of feathered dinosaur painting


Artist's impression of Fujianvenator prodigiosus. (Zhao Chuang)

Amidst remains of turtles and fish preserved in a southeastern China fossil bed, scientists have uncovered the skeleton of a dinosaur with curious bird-like features.

Estimated to be roughly 30 million years older than any confirmed bird fossil, the finding could tell us a thing or two about the first critical steps into their evolution.

Chinese Academy of Sciences paleontologist Min Wang and colleagues compared the new fossil, named Fujianvenator prodigiosus, with the remains of other dinosaurs from that time and more modern ones to identify the animal's place within the dino-bird family tree.

The researchers determined the pheasant-sized and likely feathered Fujianvenator prodigiosus belonged to the ancestral group avialae which includes modern birds and their most closely related dinosaur ancestors.

Remains of early bird ancestors like this are hard to come by, so they each hold important clues to the evolution of birds and the environment of Earth they experienced.

Researchers have named the collection Fujianvenator was found in Zhenghe Fauna, to recognize the extraordinary diversity and unique composition found at that time and place in Earth's history.

Painting of a feathered dinosaur with a colorful crest and turtles in the background


Reconstruction of the 150-million-year-old bird-like dinosaur. (Zhao Chuang)

For decades, the preserved 150-million-year-old remains of a dinosaur called Archaeopteryx defined a critical early moment in the evolution of modern birds.

https://www.sciencealert.com/paleon...tant-missing-link-between-dinosaurs-and-birds
 
A cute little herbivore.


Isle of Wight fossil shows Europe had different herbivorous dinosaurs to Asia and America


Credit: University of Bath

Scientists have discovered a new species of small plant-eating dinosaur on the Isle of Wight in southern England (UK). The new species, Vectidromeus insularis, is the second member of the hypsilophodont family to be found on the island, suggesting that Europe had its own family of small herbivorous dinosaurs, distinct from those found in Asia and North America.

Hypsilophodonts were a group of nimble, bipedal herbivores that lived around 125 million years ago. The animals lived alongside early tyrannosaurs, spinosaurs, and Iguanodon. The new fossil represents an animal about the size of a chicken but was a juvenile and may have grown much larger.

Vectidromeus is a close relative of Hypsilophodon foxii, a dinosaur originally described in the Victorian era, and one of the first dinosaurs to be described from relatively complete remains. Small and with gracile, with bird-like hindlimbs, hypsilophodonts were used by famous scientist Thomas Henry Huxley as evidence that birds were related to dinosaurs.

Hypsilophodon is also found on the Isle of Wight, but was found higher up in the rocks, perhaps two or three million years younger than Vectidromeus. Vectidromeus differs in details of the hip bones, suggesting it's a closely related but distinct species.

Dr. Nicholas Longrich, from the Milner Center for Evolution at the University of Bath, led the study. He said, "Paleontologists have been working on the Isle of Wight for more than a century, and these fossils have played an important role in the history of vertebrate paleontology, but we're still making new discoveries about the dinosaur fauna as the sea erodes new fossils out of the cliffs."

The Cretaceous strata on the Isle of Wight are hundreds of meters thick and may span several million years—scientific consensus is still not entirely clear how old they are—so the fossils may be sampling a whole series of evolving ecosystems, each with a different set of species.

The discovery was made as part of a collaboration led by the University of Bath, along with the University of Portsmouth, the Isle of Wight Dinosaur Museum in Sandown, and local fossil collectors.

"Working with the amateur community is really important," said Longrich. "It's good to have a diverse team; everyone brings something different to the table. These guys have spent their lives collecting and preparing these fossils, they know details about the rock, the geology, and the bone that nobody else does. Everyone sees different pieces of the puzzle."

https://phys.org/news/2023-09-isle-wight-fossil-europe-family.html
 
A cute little herbivore.


Isle of Wight fossil shows Europe had different herbivorous dinosaurs to Asia and America


Credit: University of Bath

Scientists have discovered a new species of small plant-eating dinosaur on the Isle of Wight in southern England (UK). The new species, Vectidromeus insularis, is the second member of the hypsilophodont family to be found on the island, suggesting that Europe had its own family of small herbivorous dinosaurs, distinct from those found in Asia and North America.

Hypsilophodonts were a group of nimble, bipedal herbivores that lived around 125 million years ago. The animals lived alongside early tyrannosaurs, spinosaurs, and Iguanodon. The new fossil represents an animal about the size of a chicken but was a juvenile and may have grown much larger.

Vectidromeus is a close relative of Hypsilophodon foxii, a dinosaur originally described in the Victorian era, and one of the first dinosaurs to be described from relatively complete remains. Small and with gracile, with bird-like hindlimbs, hypsilophodonts were used by famous scientist Thomas Henry Huxley as evidence that birds were related to dinosaurs.

Hypsilophodon is also found on the Isle of Wight, but was found higher up in the rocks, perhaps two or three million years younger than Vectidromeus. Vectidromeus differs in details of the hip bones, suggesting it's a closely related but distinct species.

Dr. Nicholas Longrich, from the Milner Center for Evolution at the University of Bath, led the study. He said, "Paleontologists have been working on the Isle of Wight for more than a century, and these fossils have played an important role in the history of vertebrate paleontology, but we're still making new discoveries about the dinosaur fauna as the sea erodes new fossils out of the cliffs."

The Cretaceous strata on the Isle of Wight are hundreds of meters thick and may span several million years—scientific consensus is still not entirely clear how old they are—so the fossils may be sampling a whole series of evolving ecosystems, each with a different set of species.

The discovery was made as part of a collaboration led by the University of Bath, along with the University of Portsmouth, the Isle of Wight Dinosaur Museum in Sandown, and local fossil collectors.

"Working with the amateur community is really important," said Longrich. "It's good to have a diverse team; everyone brings something different to the table. These guys have spent their lives collecting and preparing these fossils, they know details about the rock, the geology, and the bone that nobody else does. Everyone sees different pieces of the puzzle."

https://phys.org/news/2023-09-isle-wight-fossil-europe-family.html
Looks like my great,great,great,great, great, ( to the power of probably 1000) grandparent in the foreground, is about to be stomped.! ;)
 
Not sure where else to put this, but thought it worthy of note.

'Barry' the dinosaur goes on sale in rare auction​

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An unusually well-preserved dinosaur skeleton, a Camptosaurus known as Barry that dates from the late Jurassic period some 150 million years ago, will go under the hammer in Paris next month.

The dinosaur, which was first discovered in the 1990s in the US state of Wyoming, was initially restored in 2000 by palaeontologist Barry James, from whom it got its name.

Italian laboratory Zoic, which acquired Barry last year, has done further restoration work on the skeleton, which is two metres tall and five metres long.

"It is an extremely well-preserved specimen, which is quite rare," said Alexandre Giquello, from Paris auction house Hotel Drouot where the sale will take place.

"To take the example of its skull, the skull is complete at 90% and the rest of the dinosaur (skeleton) is complete at 80%," he said.

Read more on RTE News
 
New tiny titan.

A strange species of tiny titanosaur has finally been given a name, nearly 50 years after its bones were unearthed from the Egyptian desert.

The newly described species, called Igai semkhu, lived 75 million years ago in what is now the Kharga Oasis.

The name Igai semkhu translates to "Forgotten Lord of the Oasis" in ancient Egyptian and can be represented in hieroglyphics. "It's named after a deity the Ancient Egyptians would have worshiped in the oasis it came from," study author Matthew Lamanna, a paleontologist at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History, told Live Science.

The relatively diminutive titanosaur, which was a "mere" 33 to 50 feet (10 to 15 meters) long, was described July 2023 in the Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology.

"It's definitely something to get excited about," Lamanna said. "It is helping fill in this black hole in our understanding of the final 30 million years of the Age of Dinosaurs on one of the largest landmasses on Earth."

German researchers first chipped Igai semkhu from rocks in the Western Desert in Egypt in 1977, but the specimen was forgotten for decades until Lamanna and his colleagues took a second look.

It turned out I. semkhu was a previously unknown genus and species of titanosaur, which is a subgroup of sauropods. Sauropods were plant-eating dinosaurs with small heads, long necks and big, elephant-like bodies.

https://www.livescience.com/animals...m-egypt-fill-a-black-hole-in-dinosaur-history
 
125 million year old dino footprints.

Dinosaur footprints exposed on resort's beach​

Dinosaur footprint

The footprints were laid bare during coastal flood checks by the Environment Agency

At a glance
  • The dinosaur footprints were uncovered at Yaverland, Isle of Wight
  • They were found on the seafront during excavations for sea defences
  • The remains are thought to be from a three-toed mantellisaurus
  • Fully-grown, it would have been almost twice the length of an average car
A set of well-preserved dinosaur footprints have been uncovered on a beach at a seaside resort. The prints were found at Yaverland, Isle of Wight, by engineers looking at sea defence plans for the seafront.

They are thought to belong to a mantellisaurus, a three-toed, seven metre (23ft) long plant-eating dinosaur.

The Environment Agency said the fossils, dating back 125 million years, were exposed during excavation work near a beachside cafe, a car park and a bus stop.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd17kgldevxo
 
The bird that was really a dinosaur.

A team of paleontologists and biologists from Hokkaido University, Hokkaido University Museum, North Carolina State University and the Mongolian Academy of Sciences, has uncovered a previously unknown species of dinosaur that appears to have slept in the same position as modern birds.

In their paper published in the open-access journal PLOS ONE, the group describes where the fossil was found, its condition, and the unique position in which the specimen had folded itself before dying.

Until recently, members of the Alvarezsauridae family, a group of small therapods (carnivorous bipedal dinosaurs), were believed to be a kind of flightless bird—now, they are classified as Maniraptoran dinosaurs, a type that is non-avian but is still related to modern birds. In this new study, the researchers found a new species of Alvarezsauridae they have named Jaculinykus yaruui. It translates to "speedy, tiny dragon" and has a lineage with a group that had several bird-like features.

The fossil was found at a dig site in Mongolia's Gobi Desert called the Barun Goyot Formation, embedded in rock in a place called Nemegt. The site has yielded a number of dinosaur fossils over the past several years. The newly found fossil has been dated to approximately 71 million years ago. The team describes it as being in very good condition—it is a nearly complete, 3D preserved fossil.

https://phys.org/news/2023-11-fossil-unearthed-mongolia-gobi-dinosaurs.html
 
Two citipes for breakfast.

The last meal of a 75-million-year-old tyrannosaur has been revealed by scientists - two baby dinosaurs.

Researchers say the preservation of the animal - and of the small, unfortunate creatures it ate - shines new light on how these predators lived.

It is "solid evidence that tyrannosaurs drastically changed their diet as they grew up," said Dr Darla Zelenitsky, from the University of Calgary.
The specimen is a juvenile gorgosaurus - a close cousin of the giant T. rex.



Diagram of prey remains inside the fossilised tyrannosaur
IMAGE SOURCE,BBC/ROYAL TYRELL MUSEUM OF PALAEONTOLOGY

This particular gorgosaur was around seven years old - equivalent to a teenager in terms of its development. It weighed about 330kg when it died - about a tenth of the weight of a fully-grown adult.

The hind limbs of two, small bird-like dinosaurs called citipes are visible beneath its ribcage.

"We now know that these teenage [tyrannosaurs] hunted small, young dinosaurs," said Dr Zelenitsky, one of the lead scientists in this study, which is published in the journal Science Advances.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-67642374
 
Science 'could lose' duelling dinos
By Simon Redfern, Science reporter, BBC News

Rare dinosaur remains could be forever lost to the scientific community when they go under the hammer in November.
The remarkably preserved fossils of two "duelling" dinosaurs frozen in a death clinch could fetch up to $10m.
But scientists want the opportunity to examine the specimens of the tyrannosaur, which appears to have bitten off more than it could chew.
Details of the discovery, from Montana, US, were discussed at the British Science Festival in Newcastle.

The large arms and thin head of this most complete tyrannosaur ever discovered suggest it is a new species, called Nanotyrannus, living alongside and related to T. rex.
The observations were made by Dr Phil Manning of Manchester University.

Some 65 to 67 million years ago, in an area that now lies the middle of Montana, T. rex was the top predator of the ecosystem. Dr Manning has just returned from an excavation of a new T. rex skeleton that he is preparing for a museum in Leiden, Germany.

Fossil fragments of T. rex are found throughout the rocks called the "Hell Creek Formation" in Montana, but never before has an entire tyrannosaur skeleton been found.

Only two T. rex skeletons that are more than half complete have been ever been recovered. The Fields Museum in Chicago has the most complete T. rex, at 85% of a skeleton, which was bought at auction for a record sum, and the Black Hills Museum in South Dakota has a 65% complete T. rex.

There has been great excitement, therefore, over the recent excavation of an entire and complete tyrannosaur predator from the Hell Creek Formation. More than that, it was found forever frozen in a linked death clasp with its prey, a complete Triceratops.

Dr Phil Manning from the University of Manchester explained at the British Science Festival in Newcastle how new observations show a tooth from the tyrannosaur embedded between the neck vertebrae of the Triceratops, while the skull of the tyrannosaur appears to have been shattered by a blow from the Triceratops.

"It was a bad day for both of them" quipped Dr Manning. "These animals could have been fighting on the banks of a river. They both became mortally injured." They were then rapidly buried and preserved as fossils.

But there is more to this remarkable death duelling pair than the preservation of their last moments as entire skeletons. The preservation also solves a longstanding scientific question.

In 1988, a similar skull bone from a predatory dinosaur was identified as a distinct species, which was then named Nanotyrannus, but the identification from one skull fossil was not widely accepted, with many suggesting that this was simply a young T. rex.
The dispute over whether a second large predator lived alongside T. Rex has rumbled on over the last decades, but Dr Manning's observations of the new entire skeleton help resolve the issue.

T. rex has some notable distinctive features, one of which is its very small arms. Dr Phil Manning has just returned from a visit to inspect the new specimen from Montana, and described its very large fore arms. Despite being about half the body size of an adult T. rex the arms of Nanotyrannus are noticeably larger than those of T. rex.

Nanotyrannus is characterised by Dr Manning as having its own ecological niche, with a long swan-like neck, relatively large fore arms, and a narrower gracile skull. "If you think of the savannah of Africa today, the lion is taking down the big prey and the cheetah is maybe taking down the small prey. Maybe we are looking at the cheetah of the Cretaceous here: we've got similar niche partitioning of the ecosystem that existed 65 to 67 million years ago".

"When you have a big predator, like T. rex, it means that you have a healthy established ecosystem. So it's not surprising to find a more complex system in place at the end of the Cretaceous" Dr Manning explained.

Dr David Norman of the University of Cambridge was not involved in the study. He commented to the BBC "A really nice skull has been described previously, and looks rather low and long compared to a classic T. rex skull, which led to the suggestion of Nanotyrannus.
"If this new specimen has larger forelimbs and a gracile skull on a more slender swan-like neck, it provides plausible reasons to substantiate the idea that this is a new genus."

The remarkable specimen was discovered on private land by an independent fossil collector, and is now being offered for sale by auction. It is expected to fetch as much as $10m dollars when it goes under the hammer in November.

The scientific community demands that original research material like this sample be deposited in accessible museum collections if the description or discoveries of new species or genus are to be accepted, to allow observations to be verified and studied openly by others.

The auction of the Nanotyrannus - Triceratops pair may yet stymie the acceptance of Nanotyrannus as a new species. If it goes to a private collection it will no longer be available to science, and the unique observations made thus far will never be subject to peer-scrutiny.

The whole issue of the commercialisation of fossil discovery is raising concerns among palaeontologists and other scientists, and may hinder future discovery, they say.
Discussing the issue, Dr Norman commented: "This is the most distasteful part of it. Ever since the T. rex was sold to the Fields Museum in Chicago for $8m, the commercial value of fossils has been hyped.
"This spiralling effect means that more and more scientifically important objects risk being removed from the community for scientific study. They fall into private hands because they become objects d'art.

"It destroys the whole ethos of the availability of specimens. These fossils were left by Nature, shouldn't they be available to be appreciated and studied by everybody, rather than falling into private hands?
"There are national issues about how fossils are sold and valued that vary from country to country. It is becoming a minefield now that fossils can have a high value, and makes it a curatorial nightmare for museums."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24033966

The debate continues on into 2024.

A new study of long-debated dinosaur fossils has found growth patterns inconsistent with those of T. rex, suggesting the bones belong to a distinct species, but other experts aren't convinced.

In the latest episode of a long-standing debate over the identity of a set of dinosaur fossils, a controversial new study has found that the dino bones belong not to a young Tyrannosaurus rex but to a separate species: Nanotyrannus lancensis. In the decades since the first skull was discovered in Montana in 1942, paleontologists have gone back and forth on whether the skull and later fossil discoveries belong to a distinct species or to juvenile T. rexes.

The authors of the new study, published Wednesday (Jan. 3) in the journal Fossil Studies, claim to have snuffed out the baby T. rex hypothesis once and for all — although other experts aren't convinced.

"I was very skeptical about Nanotyrannus myself until about six years ago when I took a close look at the fossils and was surprised to realize we'd gotten it wrong all these years," lead author Nicholas Longrich, a paleontologist and senior lecturer at the University of Bath in the U.K., said in a statement. "When I saw these results I was pretty blown away."

Longrich and co-author Evan Saitta, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago and research associate at Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History, measured growth rings on the fossils and found they were closely packed towards the outside of the bone. This pattern is inconsistent with the rapid growth of a young dinosaur and suggests growth was slowing and the dinosaur was reaching its full size when it died.

"If they were young T. rex they should be growing like crazy, putting on hundreds of kilograms a year," Longrich said. When the researchers modeled the growth of the fossils, they found that the dinosaur would have reached just 15% the size of a mature T. rex, weighing around 2,000 to 3,300 pounds (900 to 1,500 kilograms) and standing 16 feet (5 meters) above the ground. In comparison, an adult T. rex was about 17,600 pounds (8,000 kg) and towered 30 feet (9 m) tall. ...

https://www.livescience.com/animals...rsial-study-doesnt-settle-the-question-at-all
 
"pharaoh's dawn chicken from hell," Great title for an anachronistic horror Biblical B movie.

A grad student has discovered a never-before-seen dinosaur after he purchased fossils online for a class project.

The beaked beast, nicknamed "pharaoh's dawn chicken from hell," roamed Earth during the late Cretaceous period (100.5 million to 66 million years ago) and hails from the South Dakota section of the Hell Creek Formation (which dates to around 65.5 million years ago), according to a new study, published Jan. 24 in the journal PLOS One.

Study lead author Kyle Atkins-Weltman, a doctoral student at Oklahoma State University, told Live Science he purchased four fossils for $5,000 in 2020 when he couldn't find the bones needed to complete one of his first research projects.

https://www.livescience.com/animals...-chicken-from-hell-after-buying-fossil-online
 
New Pterosaur fossil from Skye.


"A unique species of flying reptile, or pterosaur, that lived 168-166 million years ago has been discovered on the Isle of Skye.
Its wings, shoulders, legs and backbone were found in a rock on a beach, but the fossil's skull was missing.
Scientists were surprised to find a pterosaur from this period off Scotland's west coast - they were thought to mostly live in China.
The creature - called Ceoptera - is the second pterosaur found on Skye......"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68207021
 
Someone once said we are just pebbles on a beach as compared to the universe,

The dinosaurs lived on earth for approximately 165 million years and it took approximately another 65 million years for man to appear about 200,000 years ago.

Will humans live as long as dinosaurs ?
 
Someone once said we are just pebbles on a beach as compared to the universe,

The dinosaurs lived on earth for approximately 165 million years and it took approximately another 65 million years for man to appear about 200,000 years ago.

Will humans live as long as dinosaurs ?
Humans are a species, or if you like the genus Homo, which has been around a couple of million years. Dinosauria is a vast, diverse clade which (incidentally) is still around today. (Aye, I know we're all getting sick of being reminded birds are dinosaurs. I am too. Yet they still are.) No single genus of dinosaur has survived from the early Triassic to today, or even from the early Triassic to the Cretaceous extinction.

On the other hand, every species has an ancestry going back to the last universal common ancestor, and we share an ancestry with dinosaurs going back certainly no further than the earliest tetrapods (and doubtless far more recently, but that falls outside of my knowledge).

On the other hand, during the Permian the synapsids dominated the earth. That's us, sort of. We're synapsids, and we were ruling over the planet before dinosaurs were even a twinkle in the sauropsids' eye. Famous 'dinosaur' dimetrodon actually existed millions of years before the first dinosaur, and was a synapsid, more closely related to you (I'm assuming you're human, or at least a mammal) than to any dinosaur. Most of those synapsids weren't our direct ancestors, obviously, but our ancestors were among them.

Our synapsid relatives even dominated after the Great Dying at the end of the Permian, into the early Mesozoic (traditionally called the Age of Reptiles). Look up Lystrosaurus (don't be put off by the 'saurus' in its name, it's a therapsid, the same group of synapsids to which us mammals belong), and how it flourished in the early Triassic.

So, we come from a lineage that's competed very well with that of the dinosaurs. I don't feel I've got anything to prove to the magpie in the garden.
 
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