Doctor Who 2 (Avast! There Be Spoilers!)

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i've just been watching ressurection of the daleks.

some poor jobbing actor had to hold a rubber dalek mutant to his neck and pretend it was strangling him, lesley grantham was there in a dodgy uniform in a role that required him to be exceptionally wooden, and the special effect for when the daleks caught a lethal virus involved giving the guy inside a can of shaving foan to spray out through the gaps in the shell.

i'd forgotten just how bad who could get when it was having a bad day :D
 
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BlackRiverFalls said:
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some poor jobbing actor had to hold a rubber dalek mutant to his neck and pretend it was strangling him, ...
Often identified as one of the scariest bits of the 'classic' series. :lol:
 

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Often identified as one of the scariest bits of the 'classic' series. Laughing
maybe it's a bit too reminiscent of john wayne's demise by giant squid in reep the wild wind!

Time Crash is available on You Tube here
that was rather enjoyabubble. almost a shot at redemption by a lot of people's least favourite doctor... i can't help thinking the 'faded glory' look suits davidson better as a doctor now than when he was flavour of the day :D
 

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It's Doctor Who's birthday today, and it looks like he's getting a Sontaran.
 

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Oh it's a Sontaran! I thought it was one of the Mitchell Brothers from Eastenders :)
 

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Timble2 said:
Looks good, but then the Sontarans were always some of the best-looking and well done monsters.
Sorry but I couldn't help laughing when in their first appearance the helmets came off and their heads were exactly the same shape....

What came first in the BBC props dept ...the head or the helmet?
 

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Rrose_Selavy said:
Timble2 said:
Looks good, but then the Sontarans were always some of the best-looking and well done monsters.
Sorry but I couldn't help laughing when in their first appearance the helmets came off and their heads were exactly the same shape....

What came first in the BBC props dept ...the head or the helmet?
Apparently that was the idea behind their design, that they'd take off their helmets and their heads were that shape. A bit like the old joke about policemen.
 

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7114699.stm

Billie Piper to return to Dr Who

Actress Billie Piper is to return to Doctor Who, the BBC has confirmed.
She will star in three episodes of the sci-fi drama, reprising her role as the Doctor's companion, Rose Tyler.

Rose's return will mean the Doctor has three assistants in next year's series - Donna, played by Catherine Tate, and Freema Agyeman as Martha.

The new series begins in March and will run for 13 episodes. There will be three special editions in 2009 before the show takes a break until 2010.

Piper left Doctor Who last year, when Rose was transported into a parallel universe.

Awards

The character had been a hit and Piper won a number of awards for her performances. She was named most popular actress at the National Television Awards in 2005 and 2006.

A separate show based on Rose had been planned by writer and series producer Russell T Davies, but was scrapped when Davies decided the programme was "a spin-off too far".

Filming is currently under way in Cardiff for the new series of Doctor Who, which sees the Doctor meeting an old group of enemies - the Sontarans - 35 years after first encountering them.

Before that, the programme will return to television screens at Christmas with a special episode set on the Titanic, which will co-star singer and actress Kylie Minogue.
Better news than Catherine Tate's return, I'd say.
 

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It's a relief to see, on the Beeb's latest trailer for the Christmas special, that the advance publicity has been misleading, and that the episode will not be set on the good ship Titanic. OK, it will, sort of, but this Titanic is a spacecraft, not the old White Star liner.

OK, so it's a silly conceit, and the ship looks very much like the original ocean-goer, but I like that kind of fun - it has more than a whiff of Douglas Adams about it. Let's just hope it's not too much like Enlightenment, a sailing-ships-in-space story with Peter Davison which, until just now, I'd manged to blot from my memory.

Bad news? Well, there's not much chance of seeing Christopher Eccleston's Doctor (in fact, didn't he say he's actively avoided the Titanic, now I think of it?), and second, the Doctor is faced by yet more Christamassy killer robots, angels this time, throwing their halos, Oddjob-style. Can't they think up any new adverseries, or at least revive some decent ones?
 

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I thought Douglas Adams too. The angels remind me of The Robots of Death.
 

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What did we think of the Christmas special, then? Poseidon Adventure in space, wasn't it? And an awful lot of people dying for the time of year. I thought it was going to be Davros as the baddie at the end for a minute. But there was a Douglas Adams reference, the bit with the Queen was v. funny, and it was dedicated to Verity Lambert, which was nice.

And the trailer for next year whetted my appetite once more, yes the Sontarans are back. Hoorah!
 

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Not quite up to scratch, I felt. The science element was even worse than normal (flaming meteoroids in space? :roll: ) and the pacing was a bit too slow. Somehow the characters weren't developed enough for us to care too much about their fate.

Not seen the Poseidon adventure, but I was reminded of the Mines of Mordor, so I was a bit disappointed that the fat lady never came back to sing....
 
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I just caught the end of the prog (i've taped the rest for later), but I did see in the trailers, that Jamie Marsters, alias Spike from Buffy, is in the new series of 'Torchwood.' :)

I know the fact that they actually commissioned a new series of Torchwood does seem hard to believe, but I'm sure that it's nothing that some decent jokes couldn't fix. If only they could get Joss Whedon and some of the other Buffy scriptwriters into to write the series. ;)
 

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My first thought wasn't of the Titanic but The Posiedon Adventure too. A blatant bit of silliness, even for Doctor Who, with characters barely realised dying with Star Trek Red Shirt frequency.





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A major thing that stuck in my craw wasn't that Astrid(? Kylie's character) died heroically but utterly needlessly. If she'd figured how to lift the forks of a forklift, she could figure out how to drop the miserable gobshite to a fiery death without going herself. I should know - I drive one too and it's easy.
 

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So that was Christmas? Oh well, it wasn't a disastrous episode (no pun intended), but it was far from fantastic. More aliens who look, dress and speak exactly like people from 20th Century Earth, even though most of them have never heard of the place. Just one token "proper" alien, Taramasalata, or Bananarama, or whatever his name was.

It was a nice touch to have the utter arsehole survive and make money out of the whole episode - talking of money, Richard Bucket was left on Earth with a million-pound credit card, and the Doctor tells him he's rich. Talk about a credit crunch - wait 'til the poor bloke gets his first monthly bill!

Stormkhan said:
A major thing that stuck in my craw wasn't that Astrid(? Kylie's character) died heroically but utterly needlessly. If she'd figured how to lift the forks of a forklift, she could figure out how to drop the miserable gobshite to a fiery death without going herself. I should know - I drive one too and it's easy.
I think they tried to circumvent that by using the old "angel's halo slicing the brake-line" ploy, but as any fule gno, a forklift wouldn't have brake pipes cable-tied to the upper frame. What would be the point? The pedals are so close to the wheels, you don't need any exposed piping.

Anyway, couldn't she work out the forward tilt, or just stick the bleedin' thing in reverse? Or, I don't know, just get off before it plummeted?

I reckon RTD was so disappointed that he couldn't get Kylie for season 4, that he decided to kill off her character in a huff.

BTW, I have to put my hands up and admit that, in fairness to the Minoguester, she wasn't even slightly annoying, despite my reservations earlier. I am so not looking forward to a season of Catherine Tate...
 

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See, now this is what I love about this place. The concept of a nigh-immortal bloke with two hearts flying around in a phone box, saving a present-day Earth-orbiting Titanic-replica spaceship owned by a mad disembodied head protected by metal angels? No problem. But Kylie Minogue not really knowing what to do with a fork-lift truck? Outrage!
Pietro said:
I know the fact that they actually commissioned a new series of Torchwood does seem hard to believe, but I'm sure that it's nothing that some decent jokes couldn't fix. If only they could get Joss Whedon and some of the other Buffy scriptwriters into to write the series.
Looking back on it, this was my problem with Torchwood. It didn't know what is was. Doctor Who with shagging and swearing? A very dry comedy? Scooby Doo meets Queer as Folk (I think that's closest..)

It had good production values, well-drawn characters, one or two really good episodes, and a tip-top cast. What it lacked was an overall shape and direction: an identity, basically. Get that, and it'll be a can't-miss series.
 

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Did anyone notice that Astrid is an anagram of Tardis? These things aren't thrown together!

No Doctor Who with Bernard Cribbins in it can be too bad. And it looks like he's back next year too.
 

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gncxx said:
No Doctor Who with Bernard Cribbins in it can be too bad.
May I draw the jury's attention to "Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 A.D."?

Not as bad as Colin Baker-era stuff, I agree, but there are limits.
 

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stuneville said:
gncxx said:
No Doctor Who with Bernard Cribbins in it can be too bad.
May I draw the jury's attention to "Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 A.D."?

Not as bad as Colin Baker-era stuff, I agree, but there are limits.
That's what I was referring to, m'lud. It's better than the first Peter Cushing film and damn good fun to boot.
 

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gncxx said:
That's what I was referring to, m'lud. It's better than the first Peter Cushing film and damn good fun to boot.
Ah - I was mixing it up with the first one. You're quite right. Jury please note, any film which contains a line about "Daleks heading for Watford" has to be worth watching.
 

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stuneville said:
See, now this is what I love about this place. The concept of a nigh-immortal bloke with two hearts flying around in a phone box, saving a present-day Earth-orbiting Titanic-replica spaceship owned by a mad disembodied head protected by metal angels? No problem. But Kylie Minogue not really knowing what to do with a fork-lift truck? Outrage!
I think that some of my own quibbles are more down to the lack of internal consistency than fantastic storylines. There are plenty of things with Who that are easy to ignore most of the time, but once I start to think about them, they really start to bug me.

Take the whole "Tardis as universal translator" palaver. Fine, if we accept that anyone within a certain distance of the Tardis will automatically have foreign/alien languages interpreted for them, then that saves the process of all the major characters having to learn each others' tongues before the action kicks off. So far, so good. Then the doctor starts to engage in witty wordplay with his companions. Surely the Tardis can't translate puns? Not to worry - most of the good Doctor's companions are English, and it's fair to assume that he has picked up English over the years, with all the time he spent on Earth.

BUT... that doesn't wash with the latest episode. The ship was named Titanic, crewed and populated by aliens from the planet Stow, yet the posters and viewscreens all had English text on them. Even the mock lifebelts had "Titanic" written on them. That's not the worst of it, though. The crewman on the deck was called Alonso, of all names, so the Doctor could finally cry "Allons-y, Alonso!", a joke which requires knowledge of French and Spanish, on a ship where no-one had heard of Earth until recently, shortly after the Tardis had jetted off to the planet below!
 

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BUT... that doesn't wash with the latest episode. The ship was named Titanic, crewed and populated by aliens from the planet Stow, yet the posters and viewscreens all had English text on them. Even the mock lifebelts had "Titanic" written on them. That's not the worst of it, though. The crewman on the deck was called Alonso, of all names, so the Doctor could finally cry "Allons-y, Alonso!", a joke which requires knowledge of French and Spanish, on a ship where no-one had heard of Earth until recently, shortly after the Tardis had jetted off to the planet below!
I know...I know. The trick with Who is to not so much suspend disbelief but haul it into the stratosphere, and hope it makes up for it with wit, inspiration and the occasional creepy bit. Alas, this year's Xmas special was ... not good. Sorry, but it just had too many 'jumping the shark' moments for me - as illustrated by the Queen waving to a giant alien spaceship modelled on the Titanic as it comes within a hair's breadth of colliding with Buck house. Didn't like it - wasn't funny, just cringeworthy (and much too close, for my liking, to that moment when the Bond franchise well and truly leapt the aquatic carnivore: namely at the end of one adventure - whose title escapes me - when Bond took a personal phone call from Maggie Thatcher, as played by Janet Brown in a pinny. Ugh!)

I hope it doesn't portend a downward spiral for the series, that's all I can say.
 
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