Doctor Who [Spoilers]

It was a big shame that Polly (Anneke Wills) was not present at the meeting, as she and Ben were returned back to their own lives in London after their period of 'companionship'. And personally I would have loved it if Sarah Jane's buddy Rani Chandra (Anjli Mohindra, so good in "The Sarah Jane Adventures") had been there too. She never got to be a companion, but she would have been great. She met the 10th and 11th Doctors. And of course, in the real world, Anjli's significant other is the Master himself, Sacha Dhawan. But it was a real treat to see those who were there. Jo! Mel! And Ian Chesterton - at last. He was in the first episode - very nearly the first scene - back in November 1963. Who needs time travel?
 
Did Bernard Cribbins cark it before filming for this episode began? (he started pushing up daisies on July 27th)
 
Trevp666 said:
Did Bernard Cribbins cark it before filming for this episode began? (he started pushing up daisies on July 27th)
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I understand that most of this episode was filmed way back. A year or so ago. I suppose Bernard Cribbins could in theory have been there at the meeting, but of course his granddaughter Donna had her memories of the Doctor wiped in order to prevent her brain exploding. Taking her along could have been a messy experience. In the... err... real world, I suppose Chibnall and RTD probably liaised on the question of who ought to be there, bearing in mind that both Donna and Wilf will be showing up to some extent in next year's 60th anniversary specials.
 
CharmerKamelion said:
I understand that most of this episode was filmed way back. A year or so ago. I suppose Bernard Cribbins could in theory have been there at the meeting, but of course his granddaughter Donna had her memories of the Doctor wiped in order to prevent her brain exploding. Taking her along could have been a messy experience. In the... err... real world, I suppose Chibnall and RTD probably liaised on the question of who ought to be there, bearing in mind that both Donna and Wilf will be showing up to some extent in next year's 60th anniversary specials.
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I think if he was able to film it’ll be in next years episode.
 
Disney Plus probably paid BBC an ungodly amount of money for Dr. Who.

Starting January 1 anything Dr. Who will stream on Disney Plus,

Disney owns the world,
 
CharmerKamelion said:
It was a big shame that Polly (Anneke Wills) was not present at the meeting, as she and Ben were returned back to their own lives in London after their period of 'companionship'. And personally I would have loved it if Sarah Jane's buddy Rani Chandra (Anjli Mohindra, so good in "The Sarah Jane Adventures") had been there too. She never got to be a companion, but she would have been great. She met the 10th and 11th Doctors. And of course, in the real world, Anjli's significant other is the Master himself, Sacha Dhawan. But it was a real treat to see those who were there. Jo! Mel! And Ian Chesterton - at last. He was in the first episode - very nearly the first scene - back in November 1963. Who needs time travel?
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Anneke was not able to take part due to health concerns.
 
gordonrutter said:
Anneke was not able to take part due to health concerns.
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Oh. Not what I wanted to hear. I hope she has recovered. She has always been such an enthusiastic supporter of the show.

I wonder what twinkling little nuggets of nostalgia RTD might have lovingly crafted for us "fans of a certain age" to bite our cushions over in the 60th anniversary episodes? I hope he manages to keep lots of them secret. I have a wish list of characters I would dearly love to even just glimpse again, but won't mention any of them in case I jinx them!
 
CharmerKamelion said:
Oh. Not what I wanted to hear. I hope she has recovered. She has always been such an enthusiastic supporter of the show.

I wonder what twinkling little nuggets of nostalgia RTD might have lovingly crafted for us "fans of a certain age" to bite our cushions over in the 60th anniversary episodes? I hope he manages to keep lots of them secret. I have a wish list of characters I would dearly love to even just glimpse again, but won't mention any of them in case I jinx them!
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She's fine.
 
Peripart said:
I do hope your username isn't a clue to one of them!
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Well, if they worked out some time wimey way to bring 'me' back, I could link to the TARDIS's psychotronic memory circuits and assume the likeness and personality of anyone the Doctor remembers! I think that would be a top hole idea.
 
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Dinobot said:
That chair with the laptop on it - who was it viewing online?
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Wow. I didn't spot the laptop. Very subtle. Maybe Ryan? Sarah Jane? Polly? Martha?

I wonder what Graham did to connect with the Doctor's old friends? It was obvious that - even though they never met on-screen before this - Ace and Tegan have been connecting for some time prior to the events of this episode. I wonder if Tegan has been involved in Ace's charity (A Charitable Earth).
 
Cards on the table; I didn’t watch this latest episode…. I gave up on Doctor Who after the departure of Peter CapaldI (Who I thought was pretty damned good in the role…..just stuck with some crappy storylines/scripts)……but from what I’ve heard it had all the hallmarks of a cynical attempt to desperately re-engage with lost viewers (like myself) by throwing as many links to a (far better) past as possible (including the big hitter, David Tennant)

I won’t be watching the next Doctor …….they’ve already lost me……and I’m not alone!
 
Sgt Girth said:
Cards on the table; I didn’t watch this latest episode…. I gave up on Doctor Who after the departure of Peter CapaldI (Who I thought was pretty damned good in the role…..just stuck with some crappy storylines/scripts)……but from what I’ve heard it had all the hallmarks of a cynical attempt to desperately re-engage with lost viewers (like myself) by throwing as many links to a (far better) past as possible (including the big hitter, David Tennant)

I won’t be watching the next Doctor …….they’ve already lost me……and I’m not alone!
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As Tegan's late lamented Auntie Vanessa advised her : "if you stop enjoying it, give it up." No point watching a programme you don't enjoy. I haven't stopped enjoying it to greater or lesser degrees through all its many peaks and troughs - and I do agree that poor old Peter Capaldi got handed some crappy material towards the fag end of Moffat's increasingly up-itself approach. I hung on in there and made it through to something that was a bit more to my taste (though not to everyone's taste - but let's be honest, DW has never been that).
 
Trevp666 said:
LOL
I gave up on Doctor Who after the departure of Tom Baker!
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Well Tom was great. Probably 'my' Doctor, if I have one. In theory, he could still be there today, at the controls of the TARDIS, but he had a good innings in the role and as the Doctor would likely say "nothing lasts forever".
 
CharmerKamelion said:
Wow. I didn't spot the laptop. Very subtle. Maybe Ryan? Sarah Jane? Polly? Martha?

I wonder what Graham did to connect with the Doctor's old friends? It was obvious that - even though they never met on-screen before this - Ace and Tegan have been connecting for some time prior to the events of this episode. I wonder if Tegan has been involved in Ace's charity (A Charitable Earth).
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Kate Lethbridge Stewart did say she had been using Tegan and Ace for jobs prior to this story. So they probably met through their involvement in UNIT.
 
You know, thinking about it, I might have actually been in 'Bessie', the car Pertwee used in a lot of episodes.
It looked old but it was a 'Siva Edwardian', built on the chassis of a 1954 Ford Popular.
IIRC my dad came home in it on a number of occasions but I would have only been about 4 in 1970, and 8 by the time Tom Baker took over.
 
gordonrutter said:
Kate Lethbridge Stewart did say she had been using Tegan and Ace for jobs prior to this story. So they probably met through their involvement in UNIT.
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Oh I kind of missed that, but it makes sense. There was so much going on. And I have watched it twice. This episode could spawn dozens of spin-offs. I bet the "Big Finish" contract department is going into meltdown already.
 
CharmerKamelion said:
Wow. I didn't spot the laptop. Very subtle. Maybe Ryan? Sarah Jane? Polly? Martha?

I wonder what Graham did to connect with the Doctor's old friends? It was obvious that - even though they never met on-screen before this - Ace and Tegan have been connecting for some time prior to the events of this episode. I wonder if Tegan has been involved in Ace's charity (A Charitable Earth).
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I heard that the empty chair was a nod to Sarah Jane and the sad loss of Liz Sladen.
 
catseye said:
I heard that the empty chair was a nod to Sarah Jane and the sad loss of Liz Sladen.
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Yes, I had heard that too. It was very subtly done. I didn't notice there was an empty chair there after watching it twice, let alone there being a laptop on it. So "Doctor Who" can still do subtle! Who knew?
 
I've seen POTD now and was fairly confused for much of the story. However, did love Sacha Dhawan's Master - he plays that wonderful mixture of charisma and total, unearthly evil so amazingly well. And, although I have to admit that I didn't get on with JW's Doctor and, in fact, only sporadically watched episodes during her run, I cried at the end.
 
Against my better judgement I also watched Power of the Doctor. It was the kind of incoherent mess that I have come to expect from Whitaker's era. As someone once said "A this point it's more like Doctor Why Bother".
 
I'd really like to see more 'quiet' stories, where it's about character rather than whizz-bang flashing lights and explosions. Recently (ie, the Chibnall era) there seems to be more of an emphasis on making lots of noise and running about without the moments of introspection that I used to like, almost as though he needed to distract us from the fact that the story didn't really make a lot of sense. And also, it's impossible to hear what anyone is saying, what with the said explosions and the background music (I still can't do subtitles, sorry).

So Russell, if you're reading - quieten it down, slow it down, sort out the sound balance and, for the love of all things Whovian, make the Doctor clever again!
 
catseye said:
However, did love Sacha Dhawan's Master - he plays that wonderful mixture of charisma and total, unearthly evil so amazingly well.
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Yes, absolutely. The Master has to come over as a superintelligent nutcase and there's only two ways to go: controlled, vengeful seething or balls-out swivel-eyed lunacy. John Simm excelled at vacillating between the two, and Dhawan could finally let rip this time (Cossack dancing to Boney M being an absolute highlight of POTD.) Other than that, it was better paced than the series but was still resolutely Chibnall, with a dash of Moffat "look at me, aren't I clever" deus ex machina . I agree in the hope that Davies - who is incredibly good at structure, pace and above all joie de vivre can get the meaty-but-light feeling back, which is why I think he's using Tennant to draw a line under the last couple of series and do a soft reset to when he was in charge.
 
(Not 'spoilers'...more 'spoiled')

I knew there were some 'missing' Dr Who episodes, caused mainly by the BBCs habit of recording over the expensive videotape, but not this many!
97 missing episodes across series 1 to 6, and 2 'unaired' versions of episodes of 'Planet of Giants' (the originals were edited into one single episode).
Some of the gaps were bridged with 44 animations, and there was one full episode that was 'recreated' in 2019.

Additionally, when the BBC audited their archives, there were a number of other originals that were found to be missing, some of which have been recovered from international sources (copies held by broadcasters in other English-speaking nations) and/or from private collections.
These appear to total 79 episodes altogether.

The completeness (or otherwise) of many of the original series through to the end of the Pertwee era is complicated as there have been many 'found' footage items over the years, in various states of preservation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes
 
Trevp666 said:
(Not 'spoilers'...more 'spoiled')

I knew there were some 'missing' Dr Who episodes, caused mainly by the BBCs habit of recording over the expensive videotape, but not this many!
97 missing episodes across series 1 to 6, and 2 'unaired' versions of episodes of 'Planet of Giants' (the originals were edited into one single episode).
Some of the gaps were bridged with 44 animations, and there was one full episode that was 'recreated' in 2019.

Additionally, when the BBC audited their archives, there were a number of other originals that were found to be missing, some of which have been recovered from international sources (copies held by broadcasters in other English-speaking nations) and/or from private collections.
These appear to total 79 episodes altogether.

The completeness (or otherwise) of many of the original series through to the end of the Pertwee era is complicated as there have been many 'found' footage items over the years, in various states of preservation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes
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Everything from the start of Pertwee onwards exists, episode 1 of Invasion of the Dinosaurs is a recolourised version using the BBC b and w copy married with a colour signal from an American VHS copy. The most recent recoveries were two complete Patrick Troughton stories, including the first appearance of the Brigadier. However one episode of this story is now missing, the person who found the story told people and before he had it in his possession to return to the BBC someone contacted the station and bribed someone to sell them the episode so that is a still missing episode that we know for a fact exists. There are nine missing episodes that are in the hands of private collectors. All stories have audio recordings. The animations the BBC were producing appear to have stalled as their partner for these has pulled out. Compared to some other programmes from the same time we actually have a lot so we are lucky.
 
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