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Highway workers lament increase of human waste

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

KENNEWICK -- Forced to clean up an increasing number of jugs and bags of human waste along highways, the Adams County Waste Reduction & Recycling office took out a full-page newspaper advertisement to combat the problem.

The ad features a photo of a plastic milk jug filled with urine, and the message, "Okay, One last time: This is not a urinal."

From March 4 to Nov. 27, 2002, one Adams County highway cleanup crew picked up 2,666 jugs of urine and 67 bags with human excrement in them.

The problem isn't limited to Adams County.

Megan Warfield, litter program coordinator for the state Department of Ecology, had posters printed that are similar to the newspaper ad and made them available for any county that wanted them. About a dozen counties have ordered copies to deal with the problem, she said.

"All of the cleanup crews encounter it. It's pretty much the same around the state," she said. "They're mostly found on interchanges near rest areas. Why can't they stop there?"

Ninety-nine percent of urine is sterile, but could be dangerous if it contains hepatitis or blood, she said.

Warfield said human waste falls under a newly created category that the Legislature created last spring: potentially dangerous litter.

Human waste, dirty diapers, cigarettes, cigars, tobacco or other items that can start a fire, and hypodermic needles or medical instruments designed to cut or pierce, fall into that category.

The fine is
Highway workers lament increase of human waste

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

KENNEWICK -- Forced to clean up an increasing number of jugs and bags of human waste along highways, the Adams County Waste Reduction & Recycling office took out a full-page newspaper advertisement to combat the problem.

The ad features a photo of a plastic milk jug filled with urine, and the message, "Okay, One last time: This is not a urinal."

From March 4 to Nov. 27, 2002, one Adams County highway cleanup crew picked up 2,666 jugs of urine and 67 bags with human excrement in them.

The problem isn't limited to Adams County.

Megan Warfield, litter program coordinator for the state Department of Ecology, had posters printed that are similar to the newspaper ad and made them available for any county that wanted them. About a dozen counties have ordered copies to deal with the problem, she said.

"All of the cleanup crews encounter it. It's pretty much the same around the state," she said. "They're mostly found on interchanges near rest areas. Why can't they stop there?"

Ninety-nine percent of urine is sterile, but could be dangerous if it contains hepatitis or blood, she said.

Warfield said human waste falls under a newly created category that the Legislature created last spring: potentially dangerous litter.

Human waste, dirty diapers, cigarettes, cigars, tobacco or other items that can start a fire, and hypodermic needles or medical instruments designed to cut or pierce, fall into that category.

The fine is $1,025 for anyone caught dumping such waste, but the new penalty doesn't seem to be easing the problem.

Karen Cagle, who supervises highway cleanup crews in Eastern Washington, had never heard of urine jugs when she started her job in 1989. Now the numbers grow each year.

"Several years ago, we started finding them and didn't know what to do with them and left them. But you can't leave it there or the freeways would be (flooded)," she said. "It's incredible what's out there. Where is it going to stop?"

Gary Lembacher, who oversees the litter program in Eastern Washington, said he does not let the kids on his work crews pick up the bottles.

"I just don't trust any liquids," he said. "You don't know if it's pesticide or if there's something used in methamphetamine."

Taxpayer money not only pays for highway cleanup, but also pays for the state Department of Transportation to dispose of the human waste at the landfills.

"I don't know what the answer is," he said. "People are getting more out of control."
,025 for anyone caught dumping such waste, but the new penalty doesn't seem to be easing the problem.

Karen Cagle, who supervises highway cleanup crews in Eastern Washington, had never heard of urine jugs when she started her job in 1989. Now the numbers grow each year.

"Several years ago, we started finding them and didn't know what to do with them and left them. But you can't leave it there or the freeways would be (flooded)," she said. "It's incredible what's out there. Where is it going to stop?"

Gary Lembacher, who oversees the litter program in Eastern Washington, said he does not let the kids on his work crews pick up the bottles.

"I just don't trust any liquids," he said. "You don't know if it's pesticide or if there's something used in methamphetamine."

Taxpayer money not only pays for highway cleanup, but also pays for the state Department of Transportation to dispose of the human waste at the landfills.

"I don't know what the answer is," he said. "People are getting more out of control."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/152686_waste16.html

You can get a copy of the poster here:

http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/swfa/litter/pdf/trucker_bottle_poster.pdf

I was going to attach it but its not a valid extension.

Emps
 
I uite like the strapline - lock those tossers up!!

Tossing Urine On Wyoming Roads Might Become Illegal

Tossers Could Get Jail Time Under New Measure

POSTED: 5:58 PM MST February 11, 2004

CHEYENNE, Colo. -- Urinating in a bottle and tossing it along the road would be made illegal under a bill introduced in the Wyoming Senate Wednesday.

Lawmakers said the practice has become problematic in many areas of the state.

The measure would make it littering, a misdemeanor punishable by up to nine months in jail and a
Tossing Urine On Wyoming Roads Might Become Illegal

Tossers Could Get Jail Time Under New Measure

POSTED: 5:58 PM MST February 11, 2004

CHEYENNE, Colo. -- Urinating in a bottle and tossing it along the road would be made illegal under a bill introduced in the Wyoming Senate Wednesday.

Lawmakers said the practice has become problematic in many areas of the state.

The measure would make it littering, a misdemeanor punishable by up to nine months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Bill sponsor Bill Vasey, of Rawlins, admitted that the bill would be hard to enforce. But he said the measure is still needed to address an increasingly pungent problem, especially among highway cleanup crews.
,000 fine.

Bill sponsor Bill Vasey, of Rawlins, admitted that the bill would be hard to enforce. But he said the measure is still needed to address an increasingly pungent problem, especially among highway cleanup crews.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/2841228/detail.html
 
Sound like a job for ...

the book How to Shit in the Woods (it's real--I have a copy). Maybe they could make like the Israelites in the desert and carry a paddle (shovel, spade) with them at all times. Maybe there should be human poop-and-scoop laws.

Americans live in their cars more or less literally, and many of the old standards, such as stopping to eat and drink, pulling over to exercise, etc., have fallen victim to laziness, haste, declining public facilities, security concerns, or simply the erosion of savoir-vivre and manners.

Nowadays, you do not get out of your car on an American highway unless you are asked to do so by a police officer. It's part paranoia and part self-defence: Lock and ride.

As for urinating in bottles, I have heard of cases of people doing this despite being only three steps from the nearest commode. Can't comprend the mentality, but there is usually drugs or alcohol involved.
 
Re: Sound like a job for ...

littleblackduck said:
Americans live in their cars more or less literally, and many of the old standards, such as stopping to eat and drink, pulling over to exercise, etc., have fallen victim to laziness, haste, declining public facilities, security concerns, or simply the erosion of savoir-vivre and manners.

I guess I'm the lucky one.
I've lived in the States off and on for at least 35 years, and I have NEVER had a driver's license, nor have I driven an auto more than the four times I was ordered to in the service. [they had never bothered to ask if I was licensed, they just assumed I was!]

I have never taken a dump outside, nor have I whizzed into a bottle, unless asked to do so by a Doctor.

Therefore I would sugest that the term "Some Americans" or even, if you need to, "Most Americans" would be a bit more appropriate than a blanket "Americans live in their cars."

Don't mean to quibble, but......

Oh yeah, never mind, I DO mean to quibble!

Trace [A Southern, Northern American] Mann
 
And to be fair I was walking down the road the other day and there was one of those drive through card board drinks holders (a rectangel wih folded down sides and end and couple of holes cut in them) with the remains of two drinks sitting in the gutter about 2 feet from a large dustbin. Someone had clearly pulled over and rather than undo their seat belt and expend about 5 seconds of their life taking it to the bin they just opened the door a crack and sneaked it into the gutter. To be honest even throwing it into the bin from there wouldn't have been too tricky either.

I don't like litter at the worst of times but that kind of thing just got me down - I din't think Brit's quite that lazy. Ahhhhhhhh now I think about it it was probably an American tourist passing through :p

Emps
 
what about, the park up somewhere nice...eat mac D's and then chuck em straight out of the window.... scum!
 
I am American, take long drives often and many long car trips. I always stop at a gas station of or a restaraunt. You usually have to stop to gas up and eat anyway, why wouldn't you just do your business then? It makes no sense. Have to say only time ever used the bathroom outside was on a camping trip and there is certain camping ettiquette about these things.
 
‘Urine trouble,’ some states warn truckers

Tens of thousands of 'trucker bombs' litter roads

MSNBC
Updated: 4:00 p.m. ET June 2, 2005

SEATTLE — Roadside litter comes in all shapes and sizes — from dirty diapers to syringes — but there's one category that out-grosses the rest: trucker bombs.

Most drivers whiz along the nation's highways largely oblivious to their roadside surroundings. But next time you are out there, take a closer look.

"As soon as you look for it you’ll see it," says Megan Warfield, litter programs coordinator at Washington state's Department of Ecology. "You just see them glistening in the sun. It’s just gross."

They are trucker bombs, plastic jugs full of urine tossed by truckers, and even non-truckers, who refuse to make a proper potty stop to relieve themselves.

The state hasn't counted how many such jugs are found each year, but a single, small county decided to do its own tally. "In one year," Warfield says, "one crew found 2,666 bottles of urine, 67 feces covered items, not including diapers, and 18 syringes."

It even happens at rest stops. "That’s the mystery," Warfield says. "There’s a bathroom right there, there’s also a trash can."

Job stress, pressure cited

Truckers, for their part, point to a lack of convenient parking areas and an industry that's become more stressful since deregulation in the 1980s.

Urine jugs, says Todd Spencer, executive vice president of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, "are an indicator of how much stress and pressure drivers are under." Those factors range from having to get deliveries on time to making up for higher fuel prices by reducing costs elsewhere.

The legal work week for truckers is 60 hours, the former truck driver says, and "the real work week is usually 20 to 30 hours beyond that."

"What actually drives this more than anything else," he adds, "is that the vast majority of drivers are paid only for miles driven," so they cut corners where possible.

Spencer doesn't see much improvement for drivers either, saying companies would have to be forced to improve conditions.

Leigh Strope, a spokeswoman for the Teamsters union, concurs that a major factor is that "many drivers only get paid when the wheels are rolling."

But she also insists that union drivers aren't the ones stooping to urine jugs. "You won't find Teamsters urinating in jugs and littering the nation's highways," she says. "Our drivers are guaranteed rest and dinner breaks because it's in their union contract."

Handling the goods

Disposing of trucker bombs, aka torpedoes or pee bottles, is a thankless task that in many cases falls to highway cleanup crews.

California has a hazardous waste contractor to deal with human waste. In Washington, a spill response crew is called in to dispose of large volumes of trucker bombs.

Safety experts emphasize that urine is 99 percent sterile and that jugs of it can be moved if crews avoid contact with the liquid, Warfield says. But cleanup crews remain reluctant, with some fearing the liquid could actually be something else also dumped along highways — dangerous chemicals used to make the illegal drug methamphetamine.

$1,025 fine

Hoping to break truckers of the dirty habit, Washington state lawmakers created a "dangerous litter" category in 2002 and increased fines to $1,025 from $95 for general litter.

When it comes to human waste, the dangerous category covers trucker bombs and dirty diapers. Together they accounted for 8,000 pounds of trash collected from state roads last year.

The state has also launched a "Litter and it will hurt" campaign — its first prevention campaign in a decade.

"We have made a little bit of progress," Warfield says, citing a new survey that found 2,000 tons less of roadside litter than in 1999.

The Washington State Patrol issued 3,995 tickets or warnings about litter in 2003, the most recent year for which data is available, nearly 800 fewer than in 2002.

Several other states have taken similar steps to stop truckers from dumping containers of urine. Wyoming this year increased the maximum penalty for littering bodily fluid to nine months in jail and a $1,000 fine. The maximum penalty for other litter is six months in jail and a $750 fine.

Mowers 'hit them, they explode'

In April, Colorado increased its "human waste" fine from $40 to $500. Transportation employees convinced lawmakers of the need for the drastic increase with their tales of finding urine jugs as they mowed roadway ditches. "We hit them, they explode. The operator ends up wearing this stuff," Randy Dobyns told state senators.

Dobyns estimated he picks up at least 50 containers a week, sometimes milk jugs, water bottles or even bags filled with urine. "The folks who dispose of this stuff are very creative in their use of containers," he said.

Some states have gone so far as to appeal to truckers themselves, but Warfield recalls how that backfired on a colleague in Arizona. "He did not get a warm reception," she says.

Poster strategy

Darcy Wilson had another approach after her husband complained of having to pick up trucker bombs left on the grounds of a 10-acre truck stop 30 miles east of Seattle on Interstate 90, a major truck route.

She did some research and found that the state Department of Ecology had made posters that read, "This is not a urinal." The agency was happy to send her the posters, to which she attached an updated sign about the higher state litter fine.

Wilson posted a dozen on light posts and trash cans and says her husband believes he's finding fewer jugs of urine lying around the truck stop.

"People are looking at the fine," she says.

But truckers continue dumping the heavy jugs in trash cans that still have to be emptied. "Truckers don't want to walk into a bathroom" with the jugs, Wilson says, so her husband is urging his boss to order portable bathrooms where truckers could dump the containers in private.

"We'll do anything to not have to pick up that stuff," she says.

Recycling solution?

Unfortunately, a recent breakthrough in diesel filter technology that uses urine won't be helpful.

European researchers are developing a filter that uses animal urine to cut down on harmful emissions. Truckers who use the filter will fill up with the purified urea solution each time they stop for diesel.

But Oliver Kröcher, one of the filter researchers at the Paul Scherrer Institute near Zurich, Switzerland, says using human urine "is not practical at all, since ... very pure urea has to be used" and that wouldn't be the case with urine straight from the source.

"Thus, there is no way to apply this crazy idea," he says.

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© 2005 MSNBC Interactive

© 2005 MSNBC.com

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7912464/
 
Those poor guys on the mowers hitting a jug of urine . . . EEEEW!! Nasty! :eek!!!!:
 
Emperor said:
I don't like litter at the worst of times but that kind of thing just got me down - I din't think Brit's quite that lazy.

Emps

How do you stand Liverpool City Centre?
 
rjm said:
Emperor said:
I don't like litter at the worst of times but that kind of thing just got me down - I din't think Brit's quite that lazy.

Emps

How do you stand Liverpool City Centre?

I largely try and avoid it as much as possible ;) but you point is well taken. Its probably that we don't really have great distances in this country and you can usually hold it in ;) I did hear about a guy I know who was alleged to have kept a cup in his car in case the urmmmmmm the "urge" caught him whilst driving (and as he was a sexual deviant I didn't put it past him - he urmmmm pleasured himself 14 times in one day and when you aim for that kind of thing you can't really afford to waste time when driving). I do hope he rinsed his deposits out when he got home rather than flinging his "muck" out of the window.

I remember driving through the middle of town once when I wa a kid (no I didn't steal he car my folks were driving ;) ) and I saw a tramp woman at the bottom of Bold Street standing in the road pissing into a grid. It was quite a startling sight.
 
The only time I have ever passed through Newcastle in daylight was on a the day of a football match. There seemed to be dozens of men urinating against every available bit of wall. That, and the fact that every one I knew who studied there got mugged, hasn't encouraged me to ever go back.

(Durham and the Countyof Nothumbria by contrast are very nice.)
 
waste from trains

Until several years ago it was common practice here in the USA for passenger train toilets to just empty out onto the tracks underneath. There must have been a lot of waste in the golden era of rail travel in the early 20th century but I have never heard of the track workers union complaining about it. It finally ended when Congress found out the National Railroad Passenger Corporation was continuing this tradition and forbid it.
 
Re: waste from trains

CLamb said:
Until several years ago it was common practice here in the USA for passenger train toilets to just empty out onto the tracks underneath.

They still do here. There are instructions NOT to flush while in the station, but some one still does it. :x

It isn't much fun waiting for a train with a steaming pile on the tracks in front of you.
 
Re: waste from trains

Austen said:
It isn't much fun waiting for a train with a steaming pile on the tracks in front of you.
At least there'd be something on the tracks in front of you :(. Too much to hope for a train..

I used to work for a Rail maintenance company - apparently, just a mile or so beyond most stations there are tremendous tomato plants on the trackside: reason being the human digestive tract can't break down tomato seeds, so they get expelled in the usual manner, and on a moving train that means downwards at high speed, getting sprayed onto the trackside - and a mile past a station is when people will have finished using the khazi as soon as the train started moving.

That Virgin railways cheese and tomato sarnie isn't an option now, is it (not that it probably was before..)?
 
When my school year, back in the mid-80's, went to Germany on a visit (I already knew I was dropping German and declined the trip), the legend upon their return was that someone, halfway through Belgium, had used the coach facilities, pressed the wrong button, and deposited the week's contents all over the motorway.

Not so sure I believe this tale these days, surely the mechanism would have been more idiot-proof than that? :?
 
:shock: I'm sure,that in belgium,NO-ONE WOULD HAVE NOTICED!








sorry.

I'll just go and........
 
A dirty business: Braun Road residents lash out at diaper dumper
By Janine Anderson

MOUNT PLEASANT - Jenny Van Pool wants to put a sign up on Braun Road near Interstate 94: "Want me to come take a dump in your yard?" She's upset over the dirty adult diapers that appear in the ditch on a regular basis. Friday afternoon there were nearly two dozen diapers clearly visible in the ditch and surrounding fields in the blocks of Braun Road east of Interstate 94.

Several months ago one of her neighbors put up a big wooden sign that read "Take your s*** home with you" that, for a time, effectively stopped the tide of diapers.

"As soon as it was removed, there were piles of them," Van Pool said. "Why should we living on our street have to pick up someone else's crap? You got to have gloves to pick them up. You got to have gloves. It's so nasty."

She and her future daughter-in-law, Sarah Renteria, got so sick of seeing the diapers on the roadside that they called The Journal Times. They don't know if whoever is leaving the diapers reads the paper, but they hope someone will say something and they will get embarrassed enough to knock it off.

"We know it's someone that regularly drives down there," Renteria said. "The diapers look exactly the same. They're big, huge white diapers, wrapped up. They're sitting there for so long they come apart."

The diapers appear in little piles, maybe six at a time, several days in a row. Sometimes they get cleaned up right away; others are left for months, torn open by animals and left decomposing on the side of the road.

"I won't even take a walk down there 'cause it's gross," Van Pool said.

They got curious about who was leaving the disgusting litter in their neighborhood and staked out the Braun Road overpass, but never caught anyone dumping a load of diapers.

"We have no clue," Renteria said. "It's a mystery. We never caught anyone. We kind of think it's happening at night. If they're picked up in the morning there's no more the rest of the day."

If Van Pool had caught anyone leaving the piles of diapers around, she would have taken action.

"I feel sorry if we catch the person," she said. "I'll pull their head off."

While they are angry about the human waste that litters their neighborhood, they are mystified about why the diapers keep appearing.

"The whole thing I don't get is why would you have poopy diapers in the car?" Renteria said. "You do not leave that in the car. Maybe it's because they're a little embarrassed (and don't want anyone to know they wear adult diapers). Maybe this is the next step to get them to have a little respect."

Source

Could be someone who is caring for a senior or invalid at home but still...blecch. I'd set up a night-vision camera, me.
 
Leaferne said:
A dirty business: Braun Road residents lash out at diaper dumper

Could be someone who is caring for a senior or invalid at home but still...blecch. I'd set up a night-vision camera, me.

There are things called TRASH CANS for this kind of stuff :evil: And you'd think it would be easier to toss something into the trash can than hauling crap out to the country. Some people are stupider than animals.
 
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