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Equatorial Guinea Coup: Scorpions Arrest Mark Thatcher

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[Emp edit: This story is a complex one and actually makes sense of a number of tales we have been tracking for a bit so I have split off a number of older posts from other threads:

http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17438

http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13938

and merged them here.]

Zimbabwe Seizes U.S.-Registered Plane, 'Mercenaries'

Mon Mar 8, 2004 09:27 AM ET


HARARE, Zimbabwe (Reuters) - Zimbabwe has seized a U.S.-registered cargo plane with 64 suspected mercenaries of various nationalities and a cargo of "military material," Home Affairs (Interior) Minister Kembo Mohadi said Monday.

"A United States of America-registered Boeing 727-100 cargo plane was detained last night at about 1930 hours (5:30 p.m. GMT) at Harare International Airport after its owners had made a false declaration of its cargo and crew," Mohadi said in a statement.

"The plane was actually carrying 64 suspected mercenaries of various nationalities," he said, adding that an investigation had also revealed "military material" in the cargo.

Mohadi said fuller investigations were under way to establish the identity of the men and the nature of their mission. There was no word on where the airplane arrived from, or whether Zimbabwe was its destination.

Mohadi said a fuller statement would be released "in due course."

Officials at the U.S. embassy in Harare could not be reached for comment.

Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has been engaged in a bitter war of words with both the United States and Britain, which have accused him of a political crackdown following his victory in 2002 presidential elections which the opposition and Western observers said were flawed.

Mugabe in turn accuses Western powers of attempting to undermine his government in retaliation for his controversial seizure of white-owned farms for distribution to landless blacks.

Once one of the most prosperous countries in southern Africa, Zimbabwe now faces regular shortages of food, fuel and foreign exchange as well as soaring rates of inflation and high unemployment.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4519206
 
US invades the world

Dark Detective said:
There's a rash of US-funded coup stories at the minute. If they're true, it's almost as if Wolfowitz and co. have got a shopping list of regimes to topple before the election. Haiti, Venezuela, Zimbabwe...

I suspect a lot o people ar nervous about being next onc the US drops Iraq like the proverbial hot spud - this caught me eye earlier:

President Chavez warns United States against invading Venezuela

06:17 PM EST Mar 08
ALICE CHACON



CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez on Sunday vowed to freeze oil exports to the United States and wage a "100-year war" if Washington ever tried to invade Venezuela.

The United States has repeatedly denied ever trying to overthrow Chavez, but the leftist leader accuses Washington of being behind a failed 2002 coup and of funding opposition groups seeking a recall referendum on his presidency.

Chavez accused the United States of ousting former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide and warned Washington not to "even think about trying something similar in Venezuela."

Venezuela "has enough allies on this continent to start a 100-year war,"
Chavez said during his weekly television show.

He added that "U.S. citizens could forget about ever getting Venezuelan oil" if the United States ever tried to invade.

Venezuela provides about 15 per cent of U.S. oil imports, but relations between the two countries are rocky over Chavez's friendship with Cuban President Fidel Castro, his criticism of U.S.-led negotiations for a free trade zone in the Americas and his opposition to the war in Iraq.

The United States was slow to condemn the 2002 coup, initially accusing Chavez of provoking his own downfall.

Chavez has increasingly railed against U.S. meddling in Venezuelan affairs as his opponents step up protests to demand the recall vote.

On Saturday, at least 500,000 Venezuelans marched in Caracas to protest the National Elections Council's ruling last week that an opposition petition for the recall vote lacked enough valid signatures. Opponents turned in more than three million signatures Dec. 19, but the council ruled only 1.8 million were valid. The council ordered more than one million citizens to confirm they signed and rejected more than 140,000 signatures outright.

Rioting over the decision killed eight people and hurt scores more. The violence subsided after the Organization of American States and the U.S.-based Carter Center pledged to help give citizens a fair chance to prove they signed.

Venezuela is deeply divided between those who fear Chavez is trying to impose Cuba-style socialism and those who say he has given an unprecedented political voice to the impoverished majority.

Chavez insists the recall petition is fraud-ridden. He claims many signatures belong to dead people, minors and foreigners.

On Sunday, Chavez promised his government would investigate the deaths and injuries from last week's violence. Opposition leaders accuse national guard troops of committing abuses while trying to keep rock-throwing protesters from blocking roads with burning tires. Chavez accuses his opponents of instigating chaos.

"The government is investigating all the acts of violence and especially those in which people died," Chavez said. "Violence only takes place when a group of the opposition leaders decide there will be violence."

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040307/w030750.html

The States would love to control that 15%.

Then again I wouldn't be suprised if the 'mercs' turn out to be perfectly innocent but everyone seems on edge.

Emps
 
Emperor said:
And if that doesn't work just send in a plane full of 'mercenaries':

Zimbabwe Seizes U.S.-Registered Plane, 'Mercenaries'

Mon Mar 8, 2004 09:27 AM ET


HARARE, Zimbabwe (Reuters) - Zimbabwe has seized a U.S.-registered cargo plane with 64 suspected mercenaries of various nationalities and a cargo of "military material," Home Affairs (Interior) Minister Kembo Mohadi said Monday.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4519206

Seems they were just passing through:

Mercenaries were after Taylor: report

March 25, 2004


Alleged mercenaries facing charges of trying to topple the president of oil-rich Equatorial Guinea were actually on a mission to abduct former Liberian president Charles Taylor from Nigeria, a newspaper has reported.

This Day, quoting sources close to some of the South African nationals among the 70 presumed soldiers of fortune detained in Zimbabwe, said their objective was not to topple Equatorial Guinea's long-serving President Teodoro Obiang Nguema but to deliver Taylor to a special war crimes court in Sierra Leone.

Fifteen other presumed soldiers of fortune have been detained in Equatorial Guinea on charges of trying to oust Mr Nguema. One of the men has since died of cerebral malaria.

"Sources close to some of the men [being held in Zimbabwe] suggest there was never a plan to oust President Nguema ... They say the west African state was merely to be the springboard for a seaborne expedition to Calabar, the port city in south-eastern Nigeria, where Taylor found asylum," the newspaper said.

Taylor has been in exile in Nigeria since August last year after stepping down to pave the way for peace in his country, riven by 14 years of nearly continuous war.

He was indicted by the Sierra Leone tribunal last year on 17 counts of crimes against humanity for his alleged role in arming and training the notorious Revolutionary United Front (RUF) in their decade-long rebel war that left as many as 200,000 dead before it was officially declared over in January 2002.

Taylor has since been the object of an international arrest warrant. The special tribunal in Sierra Leone's capital Freetown enjoys the support of the United Nations, and the global police agency Interpol.

"Calabar is on an estuary and Taylor's guarded compound overlooks the Cross River," the daily said, adding that the Equatorial Guinea capital of Malabo, located on an island "is less than 300 kilometres from Calabar".

In September, the United States passed a law setting aside $US2 million ($A2.67 million) to serve as a bounty on Taylor's head for anyone who could get him to Sierra Leone.

This Day said the mission was linked to the reward.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/24/1079939716746.html
 
'Mercenaries' face Zimbabwe court

The trial in Zimbabwe of a group of 70 mercenaries accused of plotting to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea has been adjourned until Thursday.

The men - mostly South Africans but including a former SAS captain from the UK, Simon Mann - appeared in a makeshift courtroom at Chikurubi maximum security prison in Harare.

Their plane was impounded in March, when they picked up weapons bought from the Zimbabwe state arms supplier.

The group said they were going to the Democratic Republic of Congo to provide security for mining operations.

But the governments of South Africa, Zimbabwe and Equatorial Guinea believe they were heading to the small, oil-rich country to overthrow the government.

Razor wire

"It's just a postponement until tomorrow. We are going through the charges both the state and the defence have consented to the day," defence lawyer Jonathan Samkange said.

The men appeared in khaki prison uniform and shackles.

The BBC's Alastair Leithead in Johannesburg says there is much confusion surrounding the alleged coup plot and how the men came to be arrested.

They face charges of breaching Zimbabwe's firearms, security, immigration and aviation laws.

But the trial is the first time they will face formal charges, even if they are relatively minor compared to the gravity of the accusations, our correspondent says.

Mr Mann, the alleged leader of the group, has been involved with private security firms in Angola and Sierra Leone.

Court proceedings take place in a building inside the prison surrounded by high concrete walls and razor wire.

In previous appearances in the same court, journalists, relatives and members of the public have faced numerous searches.

Torture

The Zimbabwean government recently signed an extradition deal with Equatorial Guinea, where other South Africans are being held in custody suspected of being the advanced party in the alleged plot.

The suspects in Chikurubi jail
Most of the suspects are South African
The group's lawyers have appealed to the South African government to extradite them there instead, so they would not face a possible death penalty.

But South African state lawyers have opposed this legal request and the constitutional court is to deliver its decision.

Families of the men say they are pleased the trial is finally due to start after waiting four-and-a-half months in maximum security prison with restricted access to lawyers and relatives and amid complaints about prison conditions.

Mr Samkange told AFP news agency that some of the men's relatives had visited them in prison on Tuesday.

"They're okay," he said. Following their arrest in March, they had claimed they were tortured by Zimbabwean security agents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3912051.stm

An who did Simon Mann used to work for? Executive Outcomes! (In charge of computing and communications) In fact he was a co-founder of the organisation and it's later offshoot Sandline International. See: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PeteSawyer/eo.htm

Also:

Soldier of fortune

Eton, Sandhurst, the SAS: it was a classic establishment career. But now Simon Mann is in a high-security prison in Zimbabwe, charged with plotting to overthrow a west African dictator. Rory Carroll and Jamie Wilson on the fall of an old-fashioned adventurer

Wednesday May 19, 2004
The Guardian


Perched on the banks of the river Beaulieu in Hampshire is a rambling house named Inchmery. Today its 20 acres of pasture are placid, but half a century ago they were a training ground for Polish paratroopers preparing for D-Day. When an old pine tree blew over in a storm several years ago it was found to be riddled with bullets from the Poles' target practice. For a man in search of a life less ordinary, the intrigue attached to the property must have seemed irresistible. In 1997, Simon Mann bought it.

Spring may be turning to summer, but Mann can only imagine the clear views across the mouth of the Beaulieu river and the Solent to the Isle of Wight. Since March 7 his home has been a 4m x 1.5m solitary confinement cell in Chikurubi prison, a maximum-security facility outside the Zimbabwean capital of Harare, where, his lawyer claims, he has been tortured, assaulted by prison officers, suffered lice, inedible food and general deprivation.

Mann is accused of planning to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea by leading a mercenary force into the capital, Malabo, and kidnapping or killing the president. His lawyers are fighting a formal extradition request from the West African country, where, it is safe to assume, prison conditions will be no better.

It is a story with implausible characters and plot twists. There is the alleged cannibal dictator, his playboy son and scheming relatives. There is the offshore oil waiting to make millionaires out of those audacious or desperate enough to seize it. There is the exiled politician and the Chelsea plutocrat. There is the planeload of mercenaries stopping in Harare to pick up weapons. And, at the heart of it all, there is Simon Mann. How the plot went awry and landed this unusual Englishman in manacles may come to be judged as the end of an era of white buccaneers who thought they ruled Africa.

The 51-year-old has spent most of his career in the murky world of special forces and the mercenary. He is an establishment deviant. The son of an England cricket captain who made a fortune from the Watney's brewing empire, he was educated at Eton and Sandhurst and joined the Scots Guards, one of the more pukka regiments of the royal household. But he hungered for something more. He passed the gruelling selection procedure for the SAS at the first try and became a troop commander in 22 SAS, specialising in intelligence and counter terrorism. He served in Cyprus, Germany, Norway, Canada, central America and Northern Ireland. So far, so conventional; he was not out of place among the dukes and earls of White's, London's oldest club, where he was a member.

But in 1981 he left the army. "I think he wanted a new challenge, and after a while some people find army life a little bit mundane," says a former colleague. The adventures on which he embarked as a result would lead him, eventually, to a cell, decked in khaki prison garb, his life in ruins. He has authorised the sale of his Aerostar jet to pay for defence lawyers and parcels of food, toilet paper and toothpaste for himself and his co-accused. "Amanda [Mann's wife] worries the house may also have to go," says a friend in South Africa.

Unravelling the riddle of Simon Mann is not easy when even relatives were kept ignorant of his activities. "I only really know as much as you," his father-in-law, Maurice, a retired accountant from north London, tells the Guardian. "I know nothing about his business - it was as big a shock to me as to you." But enough fragments emerge to build a picture of a complex character, part thrill-seeker, part businessman, who mined Africa's wars for profit before coming unstuck in a deal too far. If convicted on firearms and public-order offences, Mann may shuffle out of Chikurubi prison in his 70s. If extradited to Equatorial Guinea he could face the death penalty. Last month, one of the alleged "advance party" of mercenaries died in Black Beach prison in Malabo. Authorities there blamed malaria, but local reports said he had died after being tortured.

Mann began his post-army freelance career quietly enough, selling supposedly hack-proof computer software. But he soon moved into the security business, reportedly providing bodyguards to wealthy Arabs to protect their Scottish estates from poachers, before briefly being persuaded back into uniform in 1990 to serve on British Gulf war commander Sir Peter de la Billiere's staff in Riyadh. In 1993 he set up a mercenary outfit, Executive Outcomes, with the controversial entrepreneur Tony Buckingham. It made a fortune protecting oil installations from rebels in Angola's civil war.

In 1995 when EO became too high-profile, he set up an offshoot, Sandline International, with another ex-Scots Guard, Lt-Col Tim Spicer, and shipped arms to Sierra Leone in contravention of a UN embargo. "Mann would not have been one of the front-line guys in choppers, more the businessman in the suit," says Will Reno, an American politics professor who specialises in African conflict.

An estimated m (£5.6m) made, Mann stepped down a gear. According to the land registry, he bought Inchmery, a former residence of the Rothschild family, in 1997 in the name of Myers Developments Inc, a firm registered in the offshore tax haven of Guernsey. Under the advertisement, "Is this the most beautiful beach house in the country?" he then rented it out and moved to Cape Town.

Already with three children from two previous marriages, Mann had another three with his new wife, Amanda, and settled at 18 Duckitt Avenue, a £200,000 Cape Dutch gabled house in Constantia, a secluded suburb beloved by British expatriates such as Earl Spencer and Mark Thatcher. He went fishing, bought sculpture and threw dinner parties for a small set of friends. "They seemed very happy," says Donald Greig, a jeweller who knew the couple. But no one seemed to know Mann's source of income. "He was a very private sort of person," says Rupert Wragg, a schoolfriend who also ended up in Cape Town.

But not, it seems, entirely private. In a bizarre twist, Mann agreed to play the part of Colonel Derek Wilford, commander of the paratroopers who fired on marchers in Derry, in a gritty television reconstruction of Bloody Sunday. In an interview with this newspaper in 2002, Mann suggested he had taken part in the film partly to defend the army (though he admitted Bloody Sunday was a "cock-up"), and partly, he said, to aid the peace process.

The director, Paul Greengrass, found Mann one of the most interesting, thoughtful and courageous people he had ever met. "He is a humane man, but an adventurer. He is very English, a romantic, tremendously good company."

What happened next suggests that the adventurer did not fully grasp how easily things can go wrong, though his motives may have been pragmatic - it is rumoured that Mann needed the money. Whatever the reason, Mann embarked on a monumental blunder.

Equatorial Guinea is a small, malarial country in west Africa ruled by a tyrant, Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, who pockets vast profits from offshore oil drilling. He wants his favourite son, a dangerous playboy known as Teodorin, to succeed him, a prospect that frightens powerful relatives. Severo Moto Nsa, an exiled opposition politician who claims the president has eaten human testicles, also feels threatened by the succession.

President Obiang accuses Ely Calil, a Chelsea-based tycoon, of plotting a coup to vault his friend Severo Moto into power in return for oil concessions. Both men rubbish the allegation. Details are murky but there is strong evidence of a two-pronged plot. Since last year, Nick du Toit, a South African former mercenary, has forged ties with one faction of the ruling clan involving fishing rights and customs control. It is rumoured that his real task was to somehow nobble the military, especially the president's Moroccan bodyguards, to clear the way for a small invasion force.

The second prong was to be led by Du Toit's former commanding officer at Executive Outcomes, Mann. Allegedly promised m at meetings with Calil and Severo Moto last year, he recruited 66 veterans of apartheid South Africa's bush wars, many of them black mercenaries from Angola and Namibia. They are thought to have trained at a farm south of Johannesburg. The alleged plan was to collect a consignment of AK-47 rifles, mortar bombs and 30,000 rounds of ammunition and fly to Equatorial Guinea.

At 7.30pm on March 7 a Boeing 727-100 recently purchased by Mann's company, Logo Logistics, was impounded after arriving at Harare. The crew and passengers were arrested, as was Mann, who had arrived several days earlier and was waiting at the airport. Soon afterwards, Du Toit and 14 others were arrested in Malabo and the governments of Equatorial Guinea and Zimbabwe were boasting about foiling a coup.

Relatives of those in Harare say that the men were on their way to Congo to guard diamond mines, so there was nothing sinister about the 0,000 Mann has admitted paying the state-owned Zimbabwe Defence Industries for weapons. "They were set up," says Alwyn Griebenow, their lawyer. However, a written confession purportedly from Mann and dated March 9, which was leaked to a South African newspaper, admits the coup plot. Griebenow says it had no legal standing and prosecutors had not cited it. In the only public hearing so far, Mann rebuffed journalists with the words "I have nothing to say." One observer said he looked like Richard Burton in The Wild Geese.

Doubters of the coup plot point to anomalies. Some of the arrested men were in their 60s and unfit. Many had good jobs and did not need the money. The flight plan went only as far as Burundi. These are intriguing points, but explainable by haste and incompetence: "Amateur hour. It was doomed to fail because they had absolutely no respect for operational security. Everybody knew it was happening," scorns one acquaintance of Mann, one of several security sources who claims to have known of the coup months in advance.

One version is that South African intelligence infiltrated the group and tipped off Harare and Malabo. Another is that Mann's arms deal was not squared with key players in Zimbabwe who therefore sabotaged it. Another is that the plotters were manipulated by Malabo's ruling family.

For all his sophistication, Mann appears not to have read the hidden agendas, or realised that Africa is no longer the pushover it once was, argues Reno. "Good lord, what idiots, the whole thing seems inept. Are they just ignorant about what goes on in these places?" States are stronger than they were a few decades ago. So too is regional cooperation through bodies such as the African Union, which makes it much more difficult, though not impossible, for mercenaries to topple governments. "I think this story marks the end of an era," says Reno.

In studying the layout of military installations in Malabo, it is possible that the plotters, if such they were, overlooked the metaphorical potential of the fact that the island is built on extinct volcanoes, once dangerous things whose time has passed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/zimbabwe/article/0,2763,1220047,00.htm

So, who's explanation do we trust?
1) The founders of a mercenary firm
2) Disgruntled politicians in exile
3) Mucky little oil-grabbing (and possibly testicle-eating) dictators.
4) Zimbabwe's notoriously corrupt judiciary and executive who look likely to approve extradition to another bad joke of a state in return for valuable oil agreements.

Take your pick.
:(
 
We first strarted discussing this event in the

'US working to overthrow other states?' thread, but I'm thinking this one is a better fit.




'Mercenaries' admit lesser charges

Tuesday, July 27, 2004 Posted: 2:55 PM EDT (1855 GMT)


• Zimbabwe: West aided 'mercenaries'


HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) -- All but three of 70 suspected mercenaries accused of plotting a coup in Equatorial Guinea have pleaded guilty to lesser charges in Zimbabwe and were immediately convicted.

The 67 men on Tuesday admitted breaching Zimbabwe's immigration and aviation laws when they flew to Harare in March, offenses punishable by up to two years in jail.

They were arrested in Zimbabwe and accused of seeking weapons here to use in overthrowing Equatorial Guinea's president.

Defense attorney Alwyn Griebenow said all 70 would plead innocent when more serious conspiracy, security and firearms charges are considered Wednesday.

Chief prosecutor Stephen Musona accepted the guilty pleas and Harare Magistrate Mishrod Guvamombe formally convicted the 67 of the lesser charges.

Neither the defense lawyers, nor family members, would comment on the likely penalty faced by the men.

But several of the suspects held up six fingers to relatives gathered in a makeshift courtroom at the Chikurubi maximum security prison, indicating they expected six months in jail, of which they have already served just over 4 1/2 months.

The 67 were detained after their aging Boeing 727 landed at Harare International Airport on March 7. They were accused of conspiring to carry out a coup in the tiny, oil-rich West African nation of Equatorial Guinea with weapons acquired in Zimbabwe.

Alleged coup leader Simon Mann, a former British special forces member, and two associates who were not on the plane were arrested separately in Zimbabwe and accused of illegal arms purchases. They also face the three more serious charges carrying a penalty of up to life in prison.

Prosecutors allege Equatorial Guinea's Spanish-based rebel leader, Severo Moto, offered the group US$1.8 million and oil rights to overthrow President Theodoro Obiang Nguema in the former Spanish colony.

The suspects, most of them former members of South Africa's apartheid-era military forces, deny the charges and say they were headed to security jobs at mining operations in eastern Congo.

In April, Zimbabwe said it had revised its extradition policy to include Equatorial Guinea, raising the possibility the suspects could be sent to the West African nation to face charges with seven others arrested there.

If tried in Equatorial Guinea, described by human rights groups as one of the most repressive countries in the world, they could face execution.

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/07/27/zimbabwe.mercenaries.ap/index.html
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3596948.stm
Mark Thatcher held over coup plot
The son of the former prime minister, Margaret Thatcher, Mark, has been arrested at his home in Cape Town.
He is said to have been detained by police elite anti-fraud unit, the Scorpions, investigating an alleged coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea.

A spokesman for South Africa's National Prosecuting Authority reportedly said he was held on suspicion of providing funding and logistical assistance.

Mr Thatcher will appear before magistrates Court later on Wednesday.
:hah:
 
I'm not sure who I trust least, the President of Equatorila Guinea or Mark Thatcher. From what I have read Equatorial Guinea needs a new government.
 
Austen said:
I'm not sure who I trust least, the President of Equatorila Guinea or Mark Thatcher. From what I have read Equatorial Guinea needs a new government.

Quite possibly... but in a wonderfully ironic twist of fate, Mark Thatcher has been arrested for funding terrorism. It would be mean to add that he couldn't possibly go himself as he'd get lost on the way, so I won't :D

Sadly (thankfully?) his Mummy can't help by shooting the enemy as they desperately try to run away.

Jane.
 
Perhaps his Mummy was the one who told him to do it. And who told her? The Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzards of course. :blah:
 
Quite! Delicious twist. However we all know about the president ( and his sons' ) corruption and the misuse of American oil interest funding. :(
 
The most surprising and irritating thing about the BBC report is that he is referred to as SIR Mark Thatcher.
He got knighted? For What?
 
Making loads of lolly?
or surviving in the heat of the desert...here comes the little prince;)
 
All Prime Ministers (which was once a term of abuse, but I digress), automatically become Barons or, in Lady T's case, Baronesses, and their offspring Lords and Ladies of the Realm.

And people look at us and laugh :D

Jane.
 
well he is an arms dealer... so why not fund a war... its what many countries do after all. He and his mum should have been arested years ago.
 
mejane said:
All Prime Ministers (which was once a term of abuse, but I digress), automatically become Barons or, in Lady T's case, Baronesses, and their offspring Lords and Ladies of the Realm.

And people look at us and laugh :D

Jane.
Small quibble, not sure how Baroness Thatcher affects it, but Dennis was made a baronet just after she retired (the Barony for Maggie was not a guarantee - is John Major a baron?). The reason that Dennis was made a Baronet, not just knighted, was that was the lowest title which would make Maggie Lady Thatcher.

At the time many said that, while Dennis deserved something for being married to her, the idea of Sir Mark was too much to bear.
 
A very curious family all round if you ask me ( or even if you don't...). :eek:
 
So it looks like the nasty little shit tried one dodgey scheme too many and got caught?

Marvellous! This calls for a celebratory drink.
 
"Born in 1953, Sir Mark inherited his late father's hereditary baronetcy in 2003."


"He left Harrow public school in 1971 with just three O-levels, did not go to university and failed his accountancy exams three times.

He went through a series of short-term jobs which each lasted about a year. "



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3597196.stm
 
John Major refused any honour when offered - basically he said it wasn't his sort of thing - which earns him a lot of respect in my eyes.

As for the Thatchers: IIRC the fact that their titles are hereditary is unusual and remarkable as not many of those get created nowdays.
 
Rrose Selavy said:
"Born in 1953, Sir Mark inherited his late father's hereditary baronetcy in 2003."

Why isn't Carol a Lady? I much prefer her to him. Did you see the interview with he at the airport where she said she was most worried about her mother? She obviously doesn't get on with her twin at all!

I don't know if Maggie knows what day it is any more. I wonder if the doctors ask her that standard question as a test for senility:

"Can you tell me who the Prime Minister is?" ... ;)
 
Haven't seen her for a while. Any sign of palsy lately? Last I'd seen, the effects of the alleged stroke she'd had seemed to have worn off. (Maybe it was just Bell's Palsy all along?)

Carol won't be a lady due to the laws of inheritance. Probably the same ones that put Anne after Eddie's little girl. (Been arguing that they should be changed, particularly now when they won't have that much of an effect on the monarchy.)
 
Maybe the shock of this will finish the old bag off. I'll put some Cava on ice.
 
Regardless of the suitability of the regime in Equatorial Guinea, I'd seriously question the ability of the turkeys who thought Mark Thatcher - I'll not call him "sir" - was a great person to get involved.
It's like wanting Brian Sewell to captain your rugby team on the pitch ... looks good on paper but not really practical.
On Radio 4 this morning, someone commented (completely seriously) that Mark Thatcher liked to invest his money "not in regular channels" such as merchant bankers but in highly theatrical and "bizarre" schemes.

So ... I want to assasinate the leader of my country and stage a military coup. I know - I channel the funds through a public idiot with a famously right-wing Mum (who's loosing her marbles anyhow) and who everyone associates with wildcat and failing schemes and who lives in a country that has an anti-fraud squad calling themselves The Scorpions and laws about investing in unsanctioned military action.
Seems like a plan - crack open the bubbly and a few cases of AK-47 magazines.

Perhaps they plan on copping a plea of guilty but insane?
 
i bet that the charges get droped, cos mumsy will pull some strings :rolleyes:
 
Nah, the 'pulling strings' stage is past. If she'd privately intervened in advance of a public arrest it may just have had an a small effect - it's too late for that now.
 
Insider info Androman? You've not recently sold a helicopter by chance have you?
 
I think he's just too busy clutching his sides.
 
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