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Excessive Plastic Surgery: Real Or UL?

MrRING

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There is a funny site to visit called AWFUL PLASTIC SURGERY that proports to showcase bad (and some good) plastic surgery. Some of it's funny and accurate, and as obvious as the Michael Jackson plastic surgery debacle.

But looking a little closer, there are some of the people who are proported to have plastic surgery on the site who don't look like they've actually had any. The Elisa Dushknu picture under "cheek implant" only seems to show a differen't light and a different expression on the face. In the "fake boob job" section there doesn't seem to be any consideration for push up bras or anything like that. And Lil' Kim's supposed proof of artificially light skin seems to discount the possibility that it was exposed for different things in the two pictures, or the possibilities of a tan.

Is this site then disseminating the truth along with creating UL about celebrities who have pictures that the site thinks appear to show inconsistances that come with plastic surgery?
 

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I saw this site many moons ago when it only had a few celebs on but it does seem like they are reaching a tad.

Liz Hurley and Jennifer Aniston's lips could be down to cunning makeup.

Paul Stanley doesn't look any different just the angle of the pic.

Elisa Dushku - she is just smiling a bit more.

While an awful lot of Holywood stars have had something done if people are scrutinising their appearance in such depth then no wonder really - I'm pretty sure we all would. I occasionally see the weekend colour magazine from the mirror and they have some gloating thing in there (or they did) where they showed a celeb all made up for a photoshoot (probably with air brushing) and then one of them au naturel - while it may make the readers feel better about themselves (for a minute or two) but if you were the celeb you'd have to be a hard ass not to see something like that and think about getting it fixed (and they could probably fix up your bad case of hard ass while you were there). Surely its time for a truce - if fashion will stop showing computer enhanced pictures of women with already impossible figures could the tabloids stop picking over the minutiae of celebratory image? We are only ruining just about everyone's self image like this and it isn't doing anyone any good. I kind of wish people would vote with their feet and not support such things but......

I keep catching bits of the Plastic Surgery Live thing on Channel 5 and the utter freakshow value of what people are prepared to do to themselves keeps dragging me in for a few minutes and I seriously think the world has gone mad. A trailer said: "Next week: Anal bleaching" and a shot showing what I'd imagine an anal bleaching would look like (although I was trying not to imagine it) and I think that just about sums it all up - if you are so self regarding that you need to get that part of yourself lighter then you should just stop messing around and disappear up it.
 

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It does appear like anal bleaching itself is (was?) bordering on an urban myth - see (warning it is an adult-oriented site but there is nothing too explicit, other than some stuff about anal bleaching) on that page but it isn't work friendly and don't go clicking ;) :

http://www.dazereader.com/analbleaching.htm

I wouldn't recommend Googling for it either ;)
 

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Mr. R.I.N.G. said:
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But looking a little closer, there are some of the people who are proported to have plastic surgery on the site who don't look like they've actually had any. The Elisa Dushknu picture under "cheek implant" only seems to show a differen't light and a different expression on the face. In the "fake boob job" section there doesn't seem to be any consideration for push up bras or anything like that. And Lil' Kim's supposed proof of artificially light skin seems to discount the possibility that it was exposed for different things in the two pictures, or the possibilities of a tan.

Is this site then disseminating the truth along with creating UL about celebrities who have pictures that the site thinks appear to show inconsistances that come with plastic surgery?
Some of them are hard to see thats true. But its hard to see Jocelyn Wildenstein in the pictures chosen for her as well and there's no doubt SHE has had it!

Boob jobs are always blindingly obvious. Push up bras give you cleavage, not (as it is put on the site) "two halves of a cantaloupe melon shoved down your dress." I feel ill after looking at that lot.:cross eye I can't believe men like them.

The thing that worries me most about this site is the string of adverts for plastic surgery down the side. Also, in the midst of all the plastic surgery pics was a photo of a man that they said NEEDED plastic surgery.:hmph:

I've not yet had the nerve to find out what "anal bleaching" is yet..
 

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As Min says, The Bride of Wildenstein has gone over the top just a tad . . . God knows what she was thinking of, wanting to look like that. From the 'before' photo, it looked as if she had a snub nose, which she might have wanted to have slimmed down, but apart from that, she appeared to have been an attractive woman. Now she just looks like a freak.

Some of these surgeons who carried out such surgery should be struck off, instead of being allowed to take the money and run . . .

Carole
 

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I pity anyone who is vain enough to want plastic surgery, a proceedure that should be reserved to help medical complaints, burn disfigurement and so on. I don't count "low self esteem" as being a valid motive for plastic surgery.
While I can understand the "fascination of horror" that some people have - usually the same people who stand around at a blood-spattered accidents just looking - I don't care what plastic surgery anyone, especially celebs, have had. It's not that important, is it?

This surgery site just seems to be sensationalist where there is no sensation.
 

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carole said:
As Min says, The Bride of Wildenstein has gone over the top just a tad...
AAAAHHHHHHHHHH! Yes, that big photo hadn't loaded before.:eek!!!!:

Well, I'd rather hope that celebs themselves might look at all these disasters and STOP HAVING SURGERY! The pictures are really sad. Why (for example) would someone as beautiful as Emmanuelle Beart do that to themselves?

Apparently you don't need any training to become a plastic surgeon, any medic can just become a plastic surgeon, which is why there are so many botch jobs.
 

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No licencing or training, you say? Hmmmmm ...

Anyone want higher cheekbones? Fatter lips? I take this baseball bat, see, you lie down with your head braced and your eyes closed and .... Wallop!

Completely painless - I don't feel a thing!
:D
 

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I think they should go right on making me laugh.These folks are from space or something aren't they.their purpose,to bring to life pantomime elements in every new day.
 
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I used to think that both Pete Burns and Marilyn were really good looking blokes (much to my parents confusion) but oh my god what have they done???

What an awesome website that is. If i ever thought about plastic surgery that would sure as hell put me off.

(Get Catherine Zeta Jones....!!!!)
 

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I used to think that both Pete Burns and Marilyn were really good looking blokes (much to my parents confusion) but oh my god what have they done???
Marilyn looks like he's had a Smartie implanted at the tip of his nose.
 

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Scroll down for a snap of George Michael looking like David Brent! :eek:

Plastic surgery, yuk, how pointless.

The way men worry about baldness is silly too. The manly thing to do is shrug and shave it! Women know that the hair loss is caused by blokey hormones. You won't catch Mr Trouser Snake wearing a toupee. ;)

If I meet a man with a combover, I distrust him because he obviously thinks he can easily fool people. ;)
 

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I intend to grow old disgracefully, with long hair and beard for as long as I can. However, if my hair goes grey, I may have to have a re-think. I don't want to look like Peter Stringfellow.

Strangely, my dark hair is becoming more red (inherited from my mothers chestnut hair I think) and my dark beard has a grey "stripe" down from my lower right lip. The Vectian thinks this looks a bit dignified. I think it looks like I dribble!

However, I refuse to resort to dye! Why defy the Gods who intend the way you look?
 

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from todays Absurder - Under the skin of the plastic surgery industry's UK exhibition

It is the weekend that fantasy plastic surgery comes to town with a flourish that is not so much Beverly Hills as Ideal Homes.

As the first ever Body Beautiful exhibition - the ultimate age-defying and beautifying event, according to the posters - opened its doors yesterday, a hundred doctors put the final touches to their stalls, straightened piles of free gift inducements and sharpened their persuasion techniques ready for business.

'If money was no object, is there any part of yourself you would change?' the representative from Cosmetic Surgery Advisory Services called out from his stall as The Observer passed by.

....

As the most tender part of her eyelid was pulled back and the ink pumped into its edge, the girl murmured; 'You can do whatever you want. I trust you.'

Not everyone at the fair was quite as trusting, including some of the exhibitors themselves.

Naomi Cambridge began working for Collagenics, a company specialising in non-surgical cosmetic procedures, three weeks ago.

'There are so many cowboys in this business it's untrue,' she whispered. 'I've been really shocked. We have people ringing us asking for work all the time who pretend to be doctors and I wouldn't like to bet on how many people here today are really respectable.

'This business, and this event, is all a bit of a meat market,' she added. 'I'm now committed to working in it but I have to say I am not liking everything I see.'
 

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Stormkhan said:
I intend to grow old disgracefully, with long hair and beard for as long as I can. However, if my hair goes grey, I may have to have a re-think. I don't want to look like Peter Stringfellow.
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You could always try for the 'Gandalf' look. ;)


Some of the facial jobs on the website are baffling. A most of the people are pretty good looking to start with, in a lot of cases all the surgery does is homogenize them, loosing any individually, or turn then into the 'Action Figure' version of their own face.

Also, IMO the 'trout pout' effect doesn't look good on anyone.
 

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I feel so much better. Now I know Kylie uses Botox and just how touched up people are, I feel less disgusting!
 

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Emperor said:
It does appear like anal bleaching itself is (was?) bordering on an urban myth - see (warning it is an adult-oriented site but there is nothing too explicit, other than some stuff about anal bleaching) on that page but it isn't work friendly and don't go clicking ;) :

http://www.dazereader.com/analbleaching.htm

I wouldn't recommend Googling for it either ;)
And as part of my public service remit here is another article:

Getting to the bottom of an unwholesome obsession

March 23, 2005

HEARD of sphincter bleaching? Beauticians are billing it as the new Brazilian wax.

"In the last couple of months I've had a lot of requests, so I've started some experiments," says Sydney beautician Anna Marsiano from The Bees' Knees salon.

"I've got one client who's a divorced woman with a couple of kids. She was looking at a Playboy magazine with her new boyfriend and he was making some comments about how clean and light the women looked. My client started to get a little paranoid."

Marsiano says she uses a herbal brand popular in the Philippines as a facial whitener. It is applied to the dark pigmentation around women's rectums as well as to their vaginal areas. Marsiano says the product does not damage the skin and has "rejuvenating" properties.

But another Sydney beautician, asked about her anal lightening equipment, produces a completely different product altogether. It's a cream that clearly states it is designed to be used on hair. This beautician has treated sex workers and strippers for years, but says mainstream demand has risen sharply over the past six months. She acknowledges that her long-term clients (many of whom come in for treatments every six weeks) suffer serious skin problems. "I explain that it will give them eczema and so on, but they want it anyway," she says.

Hard-line feminists will no doubt respond with an outraged "What will the misogynist patriarchy do to us next?" (possibly staging some sort of "reclaim the date" march). The cosmetic entrepreneurs, meanwhile, are bound to capitalise on the controversy by selling DIY backdoor bleaching kits (possibly along the lines of the personalised mouth moulds provided for teeth whitening).

As with all debates about society's relentless pursuit of beauty, however, the answer to "how much is too much?" is hard to ascertain.

Critics should not be so quick to write off glamour-seekers as witless victims. Beauty is currency, with studies showing that spunks of both sexes do better in jobs, schools, relationships and the courts. Devoting time and resources to keeping yourself nice could therefore be viewed as a worthwhile investment.

But making a rational decision about whether to undergo an extreme upgrade such as a labial reduction, a navel reconstruction or an arse implant requires consideration of a tricky cost and reward equation: in short, will X amount of pain, money and risk of disfigurement or death equal Y amount of increased happiness? If it was possible to come up with a definite "yes" to this question, signing up for surgery would make perfect sense.

Unfortunately it is impossible to get enough facts to make an informed decision. Experts describe cosmetic medicine in Australia as "cowboy country". There's no uniform system of accreditation and no easy way to track down the success rate of a particular procedure or practitioner. Financial interest also makes it hard to trust the advice of the scalpel and acid wielders.

The other big unknown is the amount of extra happiness you're likely to feel post procedure. How can you be sure when there are so many variables? And wouldn't it be safer to try a less risky course of action first? On the Insight program on SBS television next week, Victorian Health Services Commissioner Beth Wilson says she's seen cosmetic surgery patients who've had "terrible scarring, numbness, palsy, where the face just hangs down" – an awful price to pay if the happiness gamble doesn't go your way.

The good news on sphincter bleaching is that it's safer than anything involving general anaesthetics or fat-vacuuming gizmos. The bad news is that you could be in for a lifetime of skid marks. The chairwoman of the Australian Medical Association's ethics committee, Rosanna Capolingua, says the use of harsh bleaching substances could cause anal burning and scarring. This, in turn, could lead to anal incontinence or an inability to pass stools at all.

Sound attractive? If the figures in the cost and reward equation don't add up, perhaps it's worth giving the bleach a miss and locating a lover who doesn't expect your bum to look like Barbie's.


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The Insight episode dealing with cosmetic makeovers screens on SBS at 7.30pm next Tuesday.
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While there are some obviously horrendous examples The guy who runs that APSurgery site seems to have very particular favourites and hate figures due to very ilttle evidence on the site other than press photos.
Eg he just loves Sarah Jessica Parker's "nose job" but he thinks Kate Beckinsale has the ugliest breasts of all because he spotted a mark of some sort that might imply surgery - even though it has been denied -


- It is sad how bad some have turned out why do they have to mess themsleves up -Farrah Fawcett looked pretty good for her age a few years back IIRC but now :eek!!!!: .

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"Vain, moi?

It's not an anal bleaching, just a Domestos splash-back, I tell you!

Are you complaining, Mr. Jackson?

Well, OK, I'm not thirteen, I admit. But I'll sure miss those rides." :(
 

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Babies' Bum Syndrome ?

Can't help noticing the focus lately on people's nether regions; Brazillian and other waxing; G strings, and now lighter than light anusus (sp?). Somehow reminds me of the attention grabbing, brilliantly coloured backsides of certain monkeys. Maybe a revised version of Desmond Morris' 'Naked Ape' would be timely? In the meantime, it appears the trend is towards increasingly infant type genital regions for females.

In March, The Australian newspaper identified an upswing in the business of some beauticians who have responded to customers' desires to lighten the skin around their anuses. A beautician in Sydney said she had long been helping sex workers for that condition but that lately the clients are civilians trying to please boyfriends who are taken by how "clean and light" porno actresses seem. Said another beautician of the ingredient she uses, "I explain that it will give them eczema and (other problems), but they want it anyway." [The Australian, 3-23-05]
http://www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/
 

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Re: Babies' Bum Syndrome ?

again said:
Can't help noticing the focus lately on people's nether regions; Brazillian and other waxing; G strings, and now lighter than light anusus (sp?). Somehow reminds me of the attention grabbing, brilliantly coloured backsides of certain monkeys. Maybe a revised version of Desmond Morris' 'Naked Ape' would be timely? In the meantime, it appears the trend is towards increasingly infant type genital regions for females.

In March, The Australian newspaper identified an upswing in the business of some beauticians who have responded to customers' desires to lighten the skin around their anuses. A beautician in Sydney said she had long been helping sex workers for that condition but that lately the clients are civilians trying to please boyfriends who are taken by how "clean and light" porno actresses seem. Said another beautician of the ingredient she uses, "I explain that it will give them eczema and (other problems), but they want it anyway." [The Australian, 3-23-05]
http://www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/
Anal bleaching is discussed here:

www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 643#439643

Pehraps a merge might be in order?
 

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Rrose Selavy said:
While there are some obviously horrendous examples The guy who runs that APSurgery site seems to have very particular favourites and hate figures due to very ilttle evidence on the site other than press photos.
Eg he just loves Sarah Jessica Parker's "nose job" but he thinks Kate Beckinsale has the ugliest breasts of all because he spotted a mark of some sort that might imply surgery - even though it has been denied -


- It is sad how bad some have turned out why do they have to mess themsleves up -Farrah Fawcett looked pretty good for her age a few years back IIRC but now :eek!!!!: .

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The comment on her page about the "ugliest breasts of all" because she has stretch marks pisses me the hell off. I and a lot of other woman who have never had any sort of cosmetic surgery or enhancements have stretch marks just for the mere act of growing. I despise anyone who thinks that makes a woman's breasts the "ugliest of all."
 

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Right on, Sadescha! Men get them too. My brother J. has them in the small of his back and around his arms (he was six feet tall by age twelve so I'm not surprised his skin couldn't keep up). Have seen them on other guys too.
 

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Pinklefish said:
This is sort of relevant:
http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital/bikini/

It's a demonstration of airbrushing.
Good find, that!

I've been scanning slides into the computer, and since several old slides now have various defects, I'm doing a lot of airbrushing to return them to what I think is their original condition.

But this leads me into many "What is reality?" conundrums...

Is that speck in the sky an insect, bird, UFO, or film defect?

Is that spot on a face a real human spot or some speck of something that got attached to the slide?

I encountered one case where I carefully airbrushed out a 'defect' on some sailing slides, only to realise, when I encountered the 'defect' for the third time, that it was actually a real-life stain on an old and blotched headsail!


What is real? Am I real...? :madeyes:
 

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This place is great. Where else could you have a serious discussion about bum brightening within being considered odd. :lol:
 

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This reminds me of a Big Brother housemate a few years ago here in Oz who was very enthusiastic about showing off his newly depilatorised (sp?) arsehole on national television.

How charming, I thought.

If I were on TV that's what I'd want to be known for too...having a hairless arsehole.
 

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I can see this really catching on and companies advertising heavily. Shades of viagara.

“For a whiter, brighter tomorrow use our new and improved overnight Pinkass patches”

Smiling people running and dancing down the street.

Shudder.
 

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Andy wrote:

“For a whiter, brighter tomorrow use our new and improved overnight Pinkass patches”

Smiling people running and dancing down the street.
At this, my mind immediately envisioned the postures people would need to contort themselves into, in order to show off their whiter, brighter anus regions. Sort of the same position dogs get into to urinate; one leg cocked. All of which would need to be done in the nude, with their heads turned to the back, to see how well their lighter, brighter anusus were being received by those behind them. And in this mental image, people with whiter, brighter anusus were smiling delightedly. To finish off the image, the people were dancing la-la-la style along the street, arms held out at the side, maybe a gerbera tucked playfully between their buttocks while they occasionally indulged in light-hearted little leaps of joy .... or, as Andy puts it: 'Smiling people running and dancing down the street'.

It genuinely made me smile, and not scornfully. Humans are so quaint, so easily made happy, no wonder the gods keep this earth spinning. Where else could they find this kind of entertainment, century after century?

So let them have pale anusus, I say. Make anal bleaching free to all in the interests of raised morale.

But what does it say about us? Isn't it becoming increasingly clear that a lot of people, given the choice, would prefer to have again their childhood bodies: sweat, hair, discolouration and sag free? Is it because we'd prefer not only to appear as children, but also to live perpetually in the uncomplicated, innocent manner of children? Is this symbollic of our desire to be free of our animalistic inheritance; a move towards a shift in consciousness; an evolutionary step towards androgeny and spiritual lightness?

And are we in the process of discarding the old god of sweat, blood and tears and towards a new god; something similar to Walt Disney and *his* kingdom of flawless, hairless, even-toned, anus-free Ken and Barbie angels?

(Sorry Emperor: didn't realise there already existed an anal-bleaching thread. Such an innocent life I lead. Yes, please, by all means merge. )
 
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