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The Exorcism Thread

That's a very common view for a lot of born-again christians.

Usually Casper the Friendly Ghost and Doctor Who cop for it as well.
 
Malaysian toddler killed in suspected exorcism
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19159967

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Police in Malaysia say a toddler has died after seven of her family members and a maid piled on top of her in a suspected exorcism.

The three-year-old girl's parents were among the adults who carried out the ritual late on Sunday in the town of Bukit Mertajam, a police chief said.

A local newspaper said the ritual lasted 20 hours, but police could not confirm the length of time.

The eight have been arrested, the local police chief Azman Abdul Lah said.

Police broke into the house after receiving a tip-off and found the eight piled on top of the toddler, he said.

The adults - including the girl's grandmother, uncle, aunt and two cousins - were in a dark room under a blanket, he added.

"They were chanting in the room. Police believe they were involved in an exorcism ritual to drive away evil spirits," he told reporters.

The girl died of suffocation, police said, and investigations were ongoing.
 
Maybe the increase in possessions is linked to the economic crunch: house repossessions.

Milan diocese creates exorcism hotline
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20561010

The number of people seeking religious intervention has increased in the region

The Catholic diocese of Milan has doubled the number of priests who practice exorcism and set up a hotline to deal with the volume of calls.

In an interview published on a Church-affiliated news website, it said it had increased the number of specially trained priests from six to 12.

It has also published the names and mobile telephone numbers of priests able to deal with such requests.

The number, set up in early November, will run for a few hours each day.

People calling it will be able to book an appointment to see a local priest with specific training.

Monsignor Angelo Mascheroni, who has trained priests to carry out exorcisms for the past 15 years, said demand had soared recently.

"From the number of calls we receive, the need has doubled," he told the diocese's news website Incrocinews.

An official from the diocese told the BBC that they were receiving between three and four telephone calls a day.

Monsignor Mascheroni said the Church received interest from people from all walks of life.

"We get young and old, men and women, people with different levels of education - from school-leavers to graduates," he said.

"Often, parents call me saying that their son or daughter doesn't go to school, that they are taking drugs or rebelling. There's no demon there but, at the age of 18, young people don't want any more limitations. It's important to be able to discern the different situations," Monsignor Mascheroni said.

But cases requiring an actual exorcism were often very rare, he added.

"Everyone should be listened to with calmness and no-one should be shocked by the words they hear because God is always stronger than the devil. But really diabolical phenomena are, at least in my experience, very rare."
 
But cases requiring an actual exorcism were often very rare, he added.
Er, what exactly does that mean?

- cases requiring an actual exorcism were sometimes not very rare?

A student of formal logic could get a whole thesis out of this! ;)
 
Exorcism In French Town Prompts Residents To Call Police Over Screams

Police in southern France probably didn't know what to expect after they received an onslaught of calls from Limoux residents reporting blood-curdling screams at a nearby property Friday night.

As it turns out, it wasn't a murder in progress, but something far more bizarre. Investigating the reports, police stumbled upon an exorcism ritual being held at an evangelical church.

According to L'Independant, authorities arrived in the midst of the exorcism ritual and stood by as a pastor attempted to expel a "demon" from a member of the congregation. Pastor Régis Berdeilh was reportedly successful in his effort to rid the churchgoer of demonic possession.

Exorcisms are not uncommon in Europe. Last year, the Catholic diocese of Milan doubled the number of priests who are trained to perform the expulsion ceremony. The diocese also debuted an exorcist hotline to handle the large number of requests.

The archdiocese in Madrid announced it had a similar need to meet an increased demand for exorcisms in May.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/0 ... 94488.html
 
Teenage Exorcists Slam 'Harry Potter' On London Visit Because Magic Comes 'From Satan'

These teenage exorcists have a target in their sights as they arrive in London to battle demons -- Harry Potter.

Brynne Larson, 18, Tess Sherkenback, 18, and her sister Savannah, 21, have been performing exorcisms since high school under the leadership of Brynne's father Rev. Bob Larson, who claims to have performed over 15,000 exorcisms.

BBC3's clip of the upcoming documentary "Teen Exorcists," shows the poised and photogenic trio earnestly talking to filmmaker Dan Murdoch about why they consider London a "center of witchcraft." The Arizona girls headed to London as part of their first international tour with Rev. Larson, and they believe that J.K. Rowling's beloved Harry Potter series is responsible for an upsurge of occult activity in the U.K.

Savannah seriously weighed in on why London is full of dark forces, explaining, "I think it's been centuries in the making, but I believe it all kind of came to a pinnacle, a peak, with the Harry Potter books that have come out, and the Harry Potter rage that swept across England."

Her sister Tess agreed, commenting, "The spells and things that you're reading in the Harry Potter books? Those aren't just something that are made up-- those are actual spells. Those are things that came from witchcraft books."

"Harry is using this magic for good. So here we have the dangerous idea that you can use this magic for good or bad. Whereas in reality, all magic is bad, because you're getting your power from Satan," said Brynne.

The girls have vowed never to read the Harry Potter novels, and hope to help U.K. teenagers defend themselves from "inviting Satan to possess them by reciting the spells in the Harry Potter books."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/1 ... 02265.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b3d4n

The show was quite amusing. A woman who believes she's cursed after consuming some prepared food, is asked:

"What motivation do you think this guy had, for doing black magic... on a pie?"

:D

Her reaction to meeting the Teen Exorcists is not what I was expecting...
 
Her sister Tess agreed, commenting, "The spells and things that you're reading in the Harry Potter books? Those aren't just something that are made up-- those are actual spells. Those are things that came from witchcraft books."

Oh, please. :roll:

About the only spell/incantation that is real is 'Avada Kedavra' (abracadabra). As we all know, that does nothing.
 
Mythopoeika said:
About the only spell/incantation that is real is 'Avada Kedavra' (abracadabra). As we all know, that does nothing.

And with a puff of brimstone scented smoke, Mythopoeika disappeared.
 
Heckler20 said:
Mythopoeika said:
About the only spell/incantation that is real is 'Avada Kedavra' (abracadabra). As we all know, that does nothing.

And with a puff of brimstone scented smoke, Mythopoeika disappeared.

I'm back! :twisted:
 
The country where exorcisms are on the rise
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25032305
By Vladimir Hernandez
BBC Mundo

Man stands by statue of Santa Muerte in front of cathedral

Does God exist? Does the Devil exist? The Catholic church believes they both do - and some priests say they are currently having an immense battle in Mexico.

To some it may seem extraordinary, but priests say the country is under attack by Satan, and that more exorcists are needed to fight him.

This attack, they say, is showing itself in the gruesome drug-related violence, including human sacrifice, that has engulfed the country since 2006.

According to the latest official figures available, at least 70,000 people have died in this period, including gunmen, members of the security forces, and many innocent civilians.

But, the priests say, it's not just the numbers. The savagery also stands out.

In recent years it has not been uncommon in many parts of Mexico for children to find dismembered bodies on the streets on their way to school. Or for commuters on busy roads to drive past bridges with severely tortured corpses hanging from them. Scenes from hell.


A mass exorcism at a church in Veracruz in Mexico
"We believe that behind all these big and structural evils there is a dark agent and his name is The Demon. That is why the Lord wants to have here a ministry of exorcism and liberation, for the fight against the Devil," says Father Carlos Triana, a priest, and an exorcist, in Mexico City.

"As much as we believe that the Devil was behind Adolf Hitler, possessing and directing him, we also believe that he (the Devil) is here behind the drug cartels."

Mexico's exorcists say there is unprecedented demand for their services.

Some are even not taking new cases, as they are having to exorcise demons almost every day.

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Vatican view on Saint Death

Earlier this year, a senior Vatican official condemned the cult of Santa Muerte
"It's not religion just because it's dressed up like religion; it's a blasphemy against religion," said Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Culture
Vatican denounces Mexico 'saint'
"This didn't happen before", says Father Francisco Bautista, another exorcist in Mexico City.

Most of the cases, he explains, require a lesser form of exorcism, called liberation prayers - effective when a person still controls part of his or her mind and body.

Only rarely does the Devil possess someone completely, he says, but when that happens, the bishop of the diocese must intervene.

In Bautista's view, the rising demand for exorcism is partly explained by the large numbers of Mexicans joining the cult of Saint Death, or Santa Muerte.

It is estimated that the cult, whose followers worship a skull in a wedding dress carrying a scythe, has some eight million followers in Mexico - and more among Mexican migrants in Central America, the US and Canada.

"It has also been adopted by the drug traffickers who ask her for help to avoid arrest and to make money," Bautista says. "In exchange they offer human sacrifices. And this has increased the violence in Mexico."

Another reason for the surge in exorcisms, he argues, is the decriminalisation of abortions in Mexico City, in 2007. Both the cult and abortion have given evil spirits a foothold in the country, he insists.

"Both things are closely related. There is an infestation of demons in Mexico because we have opened our doors to Death."

Man shows off tattoo on his arms
If it is surprising how many Mexicans believe in Saint Death, it may also be surprising how many believe, like Father Triana and Father Bautista, that the Devil and demons are at work in the country.

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Mexico's war on drugs

Mexico
Drug traffic from Mexico to US worth estimated $13bn annually
Two main players in recent years have been Sinaloa (or Pacific) cartel and Zetas
Estimated 60,000 people killed in drug-related violence since late 2006
Q&A: Mexico's drug-related violence
Exorcism is an ancient practice and one that appears in many different religions, but many believers doubt the existence of demons.

A frontline of sorts for Mexico's exorcists is the northern region of the country where, for the last seven years, the Mexican military has been waging war against the heavily armed and cash-rich drug cartels.

In parallel with the soldiers, priests have been waging a spiritual conflict. One is Father Ernesto Caro, based in Monterrey, a city blighted by frequent shootouts and kidnappings.

He has exorcised several members of the drug cartels - and there is one case he cannot forget. It was a gang hitman, who confessed to horrific crimes. Father Caro said the man had been in charge of cutting the bodies into pieces and he said he enjoyed hearing them cry as he did so. Others he burned alive.

The priest says the man had committed his life to the service of Saint Death.

"The cult is the first step into Satanism and then into this band of people [the drug traffickers], that's why he was chosen for that job."

Girl holding a Saint Dead figure
"Santa Muerte is being used by all our drug dealers and those linked to these brutal murders. We've found that most of them, if not all, follow Santa Muerte," he adds.

The cult is also followed by criminals, policemen, politicians and artists.

"The biggest presence is in the poorest sectors of Mexican society," says journalist Jose Gil Olmos, who has published two books on Saint Death.

The first references to Saint Death occur in the 18th Century, he says, not in Aztec times, as many believe.

"In modern times the numbers of followers exploded, especially after the early 1990s economic meltdown."

Many middle-class Mexicans found themselves in misery. In despair they searched for hope, and some turned to Saint Death, Olmos says.

"From approximately eight years ago we have seen Santa Muerte having a big presence with drug cartel members, from the bosses all the way down. Why? Because these people say that Jesus or the Virgin Mary can't provide what they ask for, which is to be protected from soldiers, police and their enemies."

Map of drug cartels in Mexico
I went to see what this cult was all about at its biggest annual ceremony in the neighbourhood of Tepito, in Mexico City, a place riddled with drug trafficking and crime.

It's here that one of the biggest sanctuaries of Saint Death in Mexico is located. It's kept tidy by Enriqueta Romero, a woman in her sixties, whose life changed dramatically 12 years ago when she shocked her neighbours by putting a Saint Death figure in her window.

Over the years, more and more people started arriving to pay tribute to the skull figure in a dress. And now thousands gather for the cult's most important ceremony on 31 October, the eve of Mexico's Day of the Dead festival.

"She loves us and heals us. People come here to ask her for help - a son in prison or with Aids, or something to eat," says Romero.

During my visit, some people reach the shrine walking on their knees. One of them is a man who carries a 20-day-old baby in his arms. He's come to present his daughter to the skull.

Child with statue of Santa Muerte
I also see ordinary working-class families, pregnant women asking Death to protect the life of their unborn child, and plenty of people heavily tattooed with the female skull.

Are these people possessed, as the church says?

"No, I also believe in God, in the Virgin, and all the saints, but I am more devout to [Saint] Death. She is the one that helps me the most," says Jose Roberto Jaimes, a man in his 20s who's come on his knees to thank the skull after surviving three years in jail.

I get similar answers from all of the cult followers I talk to.

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Romero says the church itself bears responsibility for the rise of the cult, having shot itself in the foot with the worldwide child abuse scandal.

"They finished off our faith with the things that the priests did. What can they criticise? That we believe in Death? That is not bad. What's bad is what they did," says Romero.

But does she feel comfortable knowing that people behind horrific crimes also follow this cult?

"We are in a free country and everyone can do what they want. We all will have to answer to God at some point," she says.

It was former President Felipe Calderon who launched the offensive against drug cartels in Mexico in 2006, by deploying troops to the worst-hit areas.

Over the years the military has discovered numerous shrines, temples and even churches of Saint Death across the region, and plenty of evidence of human sacrifice.

"He [Calderon] started a war against them and he started a war as well against the cult of Saint Death, and he asked the church to help him," says Father Ernesto Caro.

"The Church is not going to go on TV and say: 'Look, we think that Mexico is going to get better and be saved if we do exorcisms because the Devil is behind all of this.' We have to be discreet [with exorcisms] or else we may be ridiculed, even by our own followers," adds Father Carlos Triana.

Whether exorcisms can help reduce the drug-related violence in Mexico - especially the sadistic killings - is debatable. Although at this point, many in Mexico would probably welcome any help if it brings them some peace.

You can hear and see more about this topic in Crossing Continents, BBC Radio 4 on 28 November 2013 at 11:00 GMT, and Our World, on BBC News Channel or BBC World on the weekend 30 November/1 December 2013, or catch up later on BBC iPlayer.
 
Gruesome. Be interesting to see if they were advised by a priest/pastor.

US women arrested in ‘exorcism rite’ killing of two toddlers
Published time: January 19, 2014 12:05
http://rt.com/usa/exorcism-children-women-killed-853/

Reuters / Alessandro Bianchi

Two Maryland women charged with killing two small kids say they were performing the ritual of exorcism, according to police.

The toddlers’ deaths were discovered on Friday morning around 9:30 am when police officers responded to a home at a townhouse in Germantown, Maryland. There, they found a “very bloody scene” involving six people, four of them children under the age of 10.

Police found the dead children in their bedrooms, so it leads them to believe that the kids might have been murdered in their sleep, NBC Washington reported.

It turned out that two children, 1-year-old Norell Harris and 2-year-old Zyana Harris, were stabbed several times. Their siblings of 5 and 8 years were wounded and taken to hospital, police told Reuters.

Zakieya Latrice Avery, 28, the mother of all four children, was charged with two counts of first degree murder and two counts of attempted first degree murder on Saturday. Later that day, another woman, 21-year-old Monifa Denise Sanford, was detained and charged with the two deaths.

Avery was arrested when she reportedly tried to flee the scene.

"Investigators have learned that the two defendants believed that they were performing an exorcism," police said in a statement Saturday night. However, the motive is still under investigation.

“Cases like this are heartbreaking,” Montgomery County Police Chief Tom Manger told local TV station WUSA9.

“Our thoughts are with the family and friends of the victims along with the 911 operators, police officers, evidence technicians, and fire and EMS personnel that responded,” he said.
 
#BBCtrending: The 'exorcist' of Azerbaijan
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-25885150

A screengrab of an online video showing an alleged 'exorcism'

A disturbing video of an alleged "exorcism" of a young woman in Azerbaijan has been widely viewed and discussed in the country - it's even prompted a number of parodies.

For the past two weeks, Azeris have been gripped by the story of a young woman, Lamiya Aliyeva, whose family say she is possessed by the devil. Aliyeva, who is believed to be 24, first appeared on an Azeri talk show in early January. Soon after, a video was posted online which shows her being treated by self-professed exorcist Vusal Merdinli. In the video, he sings and reads to her from the Koran, while she stares with her eyes wide open, occasionally writhing and making quiet roaring-type noises. What has shocked many is the fact that he burns her skin several times with matches.

The video has been viewed 180,000 times and has been widely discussed on Twitter and Facebook in Azerbaijan. Many say she is a vulnerable young woman who is unwell psychologically and has been taken advantage of. "It is obvious that her nerves are destroyed and she is mentally ill," is one comment on Facebook. One lawyer called it a case of "direct subjection to torture". In an interview with BBC Azeri, Aliyeva herself insists her rights have not been violated. She says she saw Merdinli willingly - and has returned for further treatment.

Although many people in Azerbaijan have been highly critical, others have taken the "exorcism" entirely at face value, says the BBC's Khanim Javadova in Baku, believing this to be a case of a woman possessed by the devil receiving treatment. There have been a number of cases of alleged exorcisms posted on sites like YouTube before, she says, and Azeri TV often features people who are presented as psychics or witches. "It's just propaganda to make money" by witch doctors exploiting the superstitious, says Sabina Hasamova with the Azeri news website Azvision, which has produced a parody video ridiculing the "exorcism" - which itself has been widely shared. An Azeri youth group has even made a parody to highlight corruption among teachers, who - they say - often take bribes to give students better marks.

Reporting by Cordelia Hebblethwaite

All our stories are at BBC.com/trending
 
‘Obsessed with sex’: French priest charged with rape, torture during exorcisms
http://rt.com/news/sex-priest-rape-excorsisms-736/

A French fundamentalist priest raped and tortured three teachers at a private religious school he ran during so-called exorcisms, leaving one the victims so disturbed she couldn’t describe events to investigators.

Police say the priest raped three women in the autumn of 2010 after he met them at the private religious school Ecole Notre-Dame-de-la Sablonniere in Goussonville, west of Paris, which he was running at the time, according to French media reports.

For years the women did not come forward to the police and one of them was so traumatized that she couldn’t even describe what had happened to her. The 40-year old priest was charged on Wednesday on charges of cruelty, torture and rape. He is now being held without bail

The cleric had allegedly raped one teacher to purge her of the “evil” of a previous sexual assault and used his “spiritual influence” to convince two other female teachers to experience similar exorcisms.

While being interrogated earlier this week the priest allegedly told detectives that he had only “simulated” the sexual acts, which the victims claimed were acts of torture using a broom, a toothbrush and some scissors.

An unnamed police source told the French news site Toute Les Nouvelles that the priest suffered from mental problems.

“He’s obsessed with sex. In his own way he was fighting fire with fire,” the source said.

The priest has already been tried several years ago in a religious hearing by his sect of St. Pius X, which sentenced him to two years in a monastery.

The Society of St Pius X is a congregation of traditionalist catholic priests founded in 1970 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and refuses the authority of the Vatican. It has over 600,000 followers in 62 countries but has been dogged by accusations of anti-Semitism and far-right leanings.
 
Pope Francis makes exorcisms official Catholic practice as demon-fighting priests recognised under canon law

Vatican has given backing to exorcism as ‘form of charity’

Pope Francis has given support to the work of exorcists in the Catholic church, after a group of priests who claim to save people from demons were officially recognised under canon law.

The International Association of Exorcists, a group of 250 priests battling the forces of evil across 30 countries, has now had its statutes approved by the Vatican’s Congregation for Clergy, the church’s newspaper L'Osservatore Romano reported.

It gives legal recognition to the performance of an exorcism, and was a cause for joy – according to the head of the association.

The Reverend Francesco Bamonte told L'Osservatore: “Exorcism is a form of charity that benefits those who suffer.”

More than many of his predecessors, Pope Francis likes to encourages the personification of Satan and speaks frequently about the Devil’s work.

Last year he was captured in astonishing footage placing his hands on the head of a boy in a wheelchair, reciting an intense prayer until the boy slumped down exhaling sharply.

At the time La Repubblica quoted an exorcism expert saying: “It was a prayer of liberation from evil or even a real exorcism.” The Vatican has downplayed the incident, saying it was simply a prayer.

The Catholic Encyclopedia defines exorcism as “the act of driving out, or warding off, demons, or evil spirits, from persons, places, or things, which are believed to be possessed or infested by them, or are liable to become victims or instruments of their malice”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 80727.html
 
The beginning of a new dark age?
Spanish Inquisition next...nobody expects that...
 
It's nothing new. I've seen a similar group of folk doing this in broad daylight near to where I live in Upton Park!
 
What happens when an entire country becomes infested with demons?
Can a country with deep Christian roots like Mexico find itself at the mercy of demons? Some in the Church fear so.

And as a result, they called for a nation-wide exorcism of Mexico, carried out quietly last month in the cathedral of San Luis Potosí.

High levels of violence, as well as drug cartels and abortion in the country, were the motivation behind the special rite of exorcism, known as “Exorcismo Magno.”
But how can an entire country become infested by demons to the point that it’s necessary to resort to an Exorcismo Magno?

“To the extent sin increases more and more in a country, to that extent it becomes easier for the demons to tempt (people),” Fr. Fortea told CNA.

The Spanish exorcist warned that “to the extent there is more witchcraft and Satanism going on in a country, to that extent there will be more extraordinary manifestations of those powers of darkness.”
Full story! http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...e-country-becomes-infested-with-demons-47505/
 
Perhaps its time to train up some warrior-priests who can then move through towns and cities dealing with the tools that summon such hellish things. After all, prevention is better than the cure.
 
Perhaps its time to train up some warrior-priests who can then move through towns and cities dealing with the tools that summon such hellish things. After all, prevention is better than the cure.

Perhaps they could treavel around with the flame guitarist.

 
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The Flying Exorcist...

Priest performs exorcism from a helicopter to banish evil from Italian town where several churches have been robbed and defiled

A priest has performed an exorcism from a helicopter to banish evil from an Italian seaside town said to be beset with social and moral decay.


Worshippers organised the airborne battle against evil after several churches were robbed and defiled in Castellammare di Stabia, near Naples.


The aerial benediction was carried out to bless and cleanse the town and the surrounding area. Locals say a series of incidents, including the desecration of graves, crosses placed upside down, thefts from churches and Madonnas thrown off cliffs, suggest the presence of devil worshippers.

“If Satan exists, he has taken control of Castellammare di Stabia. There was nothing left but to try the exorcist,” said a statement from the prayer group that called in the unnamed priest.
It is not yet clear whether the exorcism, which took place on 9 July, has had the desired effect.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...es-have-been-robbed-and-defiled-10425170.html
 
If you can perform an exorcism from that far away, he might as well have just done it from his home with his feet up.
 
If you can perform an exorcism from that far away, he might as well have just done it from his home with his feet up.

Yeah but he needs the helicopter. For hovering purposes. For gods sake it's obvious man.
 
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