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The Exorcism Thread

Nasty stuff.

Crying ‘possessed’ woman is whipped by a priest before fainting in vicious exorcism at an Indian temple
  • WARNING DISTRESSING FOOTAGE
  • The footage taken in Karnataka state, southern India, shows the man hitting her
  • Her concerned family had taken her to the temple to perform an exorcism on her
  • The priest continues to hit her knowing he is being recorded and pulls her hair
By AMELIA WYNNE FOR MAILONLINE

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7589057/Crying-possessed-woman-whipped-priest-fainting-exorcism-Indian-temple.html
 
Driving out Jinni, creating Jihadis

French intelligence fears that the spread of Islamic exorcisms in the country’s impoverished suburban estates is fuelling the radicalisation of Muslims.

The Interministerial Mission on the Struggle against the Problem of Sects, the government’s anti-sect committee, is preparing to publish a report denouncing the practitioners of Islamic healing rituals as “charlatans”.

Both the committee and the Direction Générale de la Sécurité Intérieure — the French equivalent of MI5 — say that a growing number of French Muslims are paying hundreds of euros for rituals such as ruqyah, which involves exorcising jinn, or spirits. Others turn to practitioners promising hijama, or cupping therapy, which involves piercing the skin and placing a suction cup over the cut to draw out the blood.

An intelligence agent, speaking anonymously, told Le Parisien that agencies were surveying such practices amid fears they were pushing Muslims towards radical Islam and widening religious divisions within the country. The agent said that many of the rituals amounted to “the illegal practice of medicine”.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/french-spies-alarmed-by-islamic-exorcists-skl8fmjrd
 
A strange case. I can understand why he got off:

Asked by Judge Durcan to comment on Mr Gibbons’s ‘exorcism’ video, Garda McLoughlin said: “There is something there when viewing the video. It is very, very strange and you do see her scraping herself.”

But it may have been an abusive relationship.

An east Clare man who told gardaí that he carried out a number of exorcisms on his then-girlfriend has been cleared of assaulting her.

At Killaloe District Court sitting in Ennis, Shane Gibbons (aged 48) told the court that the injuries caused to his then-girlfriend may have been caused by demonic possession or may have been caused by self harm “but they were not caused by me”.

General Manager at a firm, Mr Gibbons of Ballynagleragh, Ogonnelloe in east Clare denied the charge of assault causing harm to the woman at his home on August 17, 2019.

In dismissing the charge, Judge Patrick Durcan stated that Mr Gibbons’s defence and version of events concerning the occult, exorcisms and devilish possession should have been explored more by the State. Judge Durcan also said that he found the complainant “to be less than fulsome” under cross-examination and stated that she remained silent when questioned by himself and solicitor for Mr Gibbons, Daragh Hassett, concerning previous unexplained injuries she sustained where the complainant had allowed Mr Gibbons take photos of the injuries. ...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40062332.html
 
If he wanted to drive out evil then the exorcism should have been directed at Serra.

SAN RAFAEL, Calif. (AP) - The archbishop of San Francisco performed a short exorcism ceremony Saturday outside a church where protesters had earlier toppled a statue of Father Junipero Serra.

He said the ceremony was intended to drive out evil and defend the image of Serra. The San Francisco Chronicle reports Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone performed the ritual before some 150 supporters before holding a special Mass inside St. Raphael Catholic Church.

Serra was an 18th-century Spanish missionary priest and the father of the California mission system. He was proclaimed a saint in 2015. Critics say Serra forced Native Americans to abandon their culture or face brutal punishment.

https://www.kolotv.com/2020/10/17/archbishop-performs-bay-area-exorcism-to-cleanse-protest-site/
 
The Russian Orthodox Church has warned worshippers against performing exorcisms at home after a video showing parents attempting to expel a demon from their 10-year-old son in the Volgograd region went viral https://t.co/4YToopuH88

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020...-at-home-russian-orthodox-church-warns-a72258

If questions arise as to whether demons should be driven out of this or that person, first of all, you need to turn to the priests. Any [personal] initiative in this is completely unacceptable,” Metropolitan Ilarion said during a news program on the state-run Rossia 24 broadcaster Saturday.

The video. I didn't watch it:
https://ria.ru/20201102/roditeli-1582710106.html
 
uair01 said:
The Russian Orthodox Church has warned worshippers against performing exorcisms at home after a video showing parents attempting to expel a demon from their 10-year-old son in the Volgograd region went viral https://t.co/4YToopuH88

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020...-at-home-russian-orthodox-church-warns-a72258

If questions arise as to whether demons should be driven out of this or that person, first of all, you need to turn to the priests. Any [personal] initiative in this is completely unacceptable,” Metropolitan Ilarion said during a news program on the state-run Rossia 24 broadcaster Saturday.

The video. I didn't watch it:
https://ria.ru/20201102/roditeli-1582710106.html
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I don't think I'll watch it but I imagine it's distressing :(
 
Another disturbing case.

Police in Sri Lanka have arrested two people in connection with the death of a nine-year-old girl who was repeatedly beaten during a ritual they believed would drive away an evil spirit.

The two suspects – the woman performing the exorcism and the girl’s mother – are to appear in court to hear charges over the girl’s death, which occurred over the weekend in Delgoda, a small town near the capital, Colombo. According to the police, the mother believed her daughter had been possessed by a demon and took her to the home of the exorcist so a ritual could be performed to drive the spirit away.

Police said the exorcist first put oil on the girl and then began to repeatedly hit her with a cane. When the girl lost consciousness, she was taken to a hospital, where she died. A post-mortem has been scheduled.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40235525.html
 
Barking people asked to leave.

On Monday at a Home Depot in Dickson City, Pennsylvania, police were called to put an end to an exorcism underway at the store. Curiously, the exorcism seems to have been for the trees? That sounds more like a funeral to me. Or perhaps a protest. From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

According to reports, the exorcism was being held for the trees that had been turned into lumber.
The police blotter item posted on the Dickson City police Facebook page gave few clues as to what happened, simply saying: "3:26pm Commerce Blvd. @ Home Depot for disorderly people having an exorcism in the lumber isle for the dead trees. They were escorted out of the building."
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https://boingboing.net/2021/06/24/police-interrupt-exorcism-at-home-depot.html
 
ramonmercado said:
Barking people asked to leave.

On Monday at a Home Depot in Dickson City, Pennsylvania, police were called to put an end to an exorcism underway at the store. Curiously, the exorcism seems to have been for the trees? That sounds more like a funeral to me. Or perhaps a protest. From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:



https://boingboing.net/2021/06/24/police-interrupt-exorcism-at-home-depot.html
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It's kind of amazing that this story went around the world simply on the basis of one short blurb on the Facebook police page. There are NO details to this whatsoever.

This is the blurb:

3:26pm Commerce Blvd. @ Home Depot for disorderly people having an exorcism in the lumber isle (sic) for the dead trees. They were escorted out of the building.

It's weird but, clearly, just people goofing off. I've got friends who live here so I'm checking out if they heard anything more but it seems to be just nonsense blown way out of proportion.

Update: Some journalists called the PD and found that it was more like a seance.
"There were two people hanging out in the lumber department doing their little exorcism thing," the officer said. "Some people at the store started picking up that something was happening that was not necessarily normal."
The individuals involved will not be charged, the officer said.
"It was a séance type of thing for the dead," he said.
 
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Anonymous said:
Guardian & Exorcism

No, I do not regard The Guardian newspaper as a reliable source. One of its journalists once requested an interview with Bishop Manchester. He declined. The newspaper went ahead anyway with a half-page feature, attributing "quotes" to the bishop that had never been uttered, as no contact was established beyond a refusal. Together with a picture from a Photo Agency Library, The Guardian cobbled together a completely invented story about Bishop Manchester and his work in exorcism. Nothing negative, you understand. But totally made up by the Guardian staff writer.

Being left-wing, white and middle-class does not make an organ "reliable." The Universe is a Roman Catholic newspaper which is far more likely to get its facts straight when it comes to quoting Vatican sources, as it uses the official Vatican press agency. Biased or not, it is reporting the official Roman Catholic line on matters such as demonry and exorcism, which is certainly at variance with the slant on offer from The Guardian newspaper.

And, yes, I have am involved in the ministry of exorcism.
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The Guardian's approach to matters spiritual has always taken one of two directions. in the case of the "official" licenced practitioners of religion - the big established religions - it appears to view them as too big to pick a fight with on their own turf and its editorial line has always been a cautious neutrality. But if it's the "alternative" spiritual world - people who for instance can't afford lawyers - the gloves are dropped and it takes on a blanket approach of nasty, sneering patronising superiority concerning those deluded losers. A staff writer called Catherine Bennett used to really love tearing alternative ideas to shreds and getting nasty about people involved in them. Gods know sometimes this approach is merited - fraudulent psychics, for instance, or people selling snake-oil nostrums - but to go there as a default position for everything, without even a cursory glance at the case for the defence - isn't. It stops being journalism and starts being just sneering bullying.
 
Bit unusual for a gay exorcism to be performed in a CoE Church.

Children's charity Barnado's is to conduct a review into claims conversion therapy was performed at a church.

Matthew Drapper said he suffered long-term trauma after undergoing a form of "exorcism" at Sheffield's St Thomas Philadelphia church eight years ago.

Barnado's said the Diocese of Sheffield had asked it to carry out a "comprehensive and independent investigation" into Mr Drapper's claim.
St Thomas church has denied it engaged in any conversion therapy. A Barnardo's spokesperson said its review would look into allegations that an individual was "discriminated against at St Thomas' Philadelphia Church due to their sexuality".
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Mr Drapper, 33, previously told the BBC he was made to repeatedly shout a prayer during a 20-minute session, which left him "cramping up and struggling to breathe".

"They told me to speak to the gay part of myself as if speaking to a wild dog coming up to me - and for me to say to 'leave my body'," he said.
"The people I was with told me they could see demons leave me and go out of the window." ...
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61106998
 
ramonmercado said:
Bit unusual for a gay exorcism to be performed in a CoE Church.

Children's charity Barnado's is to conduct a review into claims conversion therapy was performed at a church.

Matthew Drapper said he suffered long-term trauma after undergoing a form of "exorcism" at Sheffield's St Thomas Philadelphia church eight years ago.

Barnado's said the Diocese of Sheffield had asked it to carry out a "comprehensive and independent investigation" into Mr Drapper's claim.
St Thomas church has denied it engaged in any conversion therapy. A Barnardo's spokesperson said its review would look into allegations that an individual was "discriminated against at St Thomas' Philadelphia Church due to their sexuality".
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Mr Drapper, 33, previously told the BBC he was made to repeatedly shout a prayer during a 20-minute session, which left him "cramping up and struggling to breathe".

"They told me to speak to the gay part of myself as if speaking to a wild dog coming up to me - and for me to say to 'leave my body'," he said.
"The people I was with told me they could see demons leave me and go out of the window." ...
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61106998
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Probs trying to get the evil demon to come out.
 
I was surprised that I found this book strangely soothing and uplifting:
An Exorcist Explains the Demonic: The Antics of Satan and His Army of Fallen Angels
by Gabriele Amorth, Stephano Stimamiglio (Editor), Charlotte J. Fasi (Translator)
4.17 · Rating details · 776 ratings · 85 reviews
From Fr. Gabriel Amorth, the renowned exorcist in Rome, comes this powerful, eye-opening book on the deadly antics of Satan and his fallen angels, as well as spiritual remedies for each.
These pages provide a basic orientation in the dark phenomenology, succinctly explaining Catholic doctrine on the fallen angels and the innumerable manifestations.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show...arch=true&from_srp=true&qid=xmmecfNeEn&rank=3

I should not have liked it, because Father Amorth is a very orthodox Catholic and he even believes in spells and witchcraft. I suppose that's because of his Italian folklore background. But even so, there was a deep humanity in this book. Strange ...
 
Vid at link, not sure if she's deranged or just a narcissist.

A California mom whose 3-year-old daughter suffocated to death during an exorcism to rid the child of “an evil spirit” said shortly before her arrest that she was sad the girl had died but was thankful she wouldn’t have to live in a world where “everything is just so bad, like, everything just going downhill.”

In a video posted to YouTube on Jan. 27, 2022 and unearthed by The Daily Beast, Claudia Elisia Hernandez Santos, 25, told viewers, “Like, I could sit here and be negative… be sad about the whole situation that she passed away, but it’s like, there’s no point, you know, because it is what it is. It is what it is. You know, she’s not here with me, it is what it is, you know? And it’s like, what’s the point, you know? I’m just gonna be… putting myself down when there’s no point for me to do that, you know? Like, I cannot change the past.”

On Jan. 31, Hernandez was booked into the Santa Clara County jail on one felony count of assault on a child with force likely to produce great bodily injury resulting in death, according to detention records.

The previously unreported video of Hernandez discussing her daughter’s shocking death is titled “Arely Naomi Proctor Hernandez,” and runs for nearly 45 minutes. In it, Hernandez covers a range of topics related to her late child but makes a specific point not to get into details of how she died.

“People could talk, but at the end of the day, I know what happened,” she says. “God knows what happened, and the people that were there when she passed away knows what happened.”

However, according to an affidavit filed in Santa Clara County Superior Court, the San Jose Police Department also has a pretty good idea of what happened. The charges against Hernandez can be traced back to Sept. 24, 2021, when Hernandez called police shortly after 8 p.m. to report that her daughter was dead. When cops arrived at the Iglesia Apostoles y Profetas church, which is run out of a private home in San Jose, they found little Arely unconscious on the floor, states the affidavit, which was first obtained by the NBC Bay Area Investigative Unit. After attempting “life-saving measures,” Arely was pronounced dead at an area hospital about 45 minutes later, the affidavit says. ...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/claud...hurch-exorcism-shrugged-it-off-in-youtube-vid
 
ramonmercado said:
Vid at link, not sure if she's deranged or just a narcissist.

A California mom whose 3-year-old daughter suffocated to death during an exorcism to rid the child of “an evil spirit” said shortly before her arrest that she was sad the girl had died but was thankful she wouldn’t have to live in a world where “everything is just so bad, like, everything just going downhill.”

In a video posted to YouTube on Jan. 27, 2022 and unearthed by The Daily Beast, Claudia Elisia Hernandez Santos, 25, told viewers, “Like, I could sit here and be negative… be sad about the whole situation that she passed away, but it’s like, there’s no point, you know, because it is what it is. It is what it is. You know, she’s not here with me, it is what it is, you know? And it’s like, what’s the point, you know? I’m just gonna be… putting myself down when there’s no point for me to do that, you know? Like, I cannot change the past.”

On Jan. 31, Hernandez was booked into the Santa Clara County jail on one felony count of assault on a child with force likely to produce great bodily injury resulting in death, according to detention records.

The previously unreported video of Hernandez discussing her daughter’s shocking death is titled “Arely Naomi Proctor Hernandez,” and runs for nearly 45 minutes. In it, Hernandez covers a range of topics related to her late child but makes a specific point not to get into details of how she died.

“People could talk, but at the end of the day, I know what happened,” she says. “God knows what happened, and the people that were there when she passed away knows what happened.”

However, according to an affidavit filed in Santa Clara County Superior Court, the San Jose Police Department also has a pretty good idea of what happened. The charges against Hernandez can be traced back to Sept. 24, 2021, when Hernandez called police shortly after 8 p.m. to report that her daughter was dead. When cops arrived at the Iglesia Apostoles y Profetas church, which is run out of a private home in San Jose, they found little Arely unconscious on the floor, states the affidavit, which was first obtained by the NBC Bay Area Investigative Unit. After attempting “life-saving measures,” Arely was pronounced dead at an area hospital about 45 minutes later, the affidavit says. ...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/claud...hurch-exorcism-shrugged-it-off-in-youtube-vid
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WTF. If found guilty, incarcerate for a long time, tie her tubes, stelazine under-skin bang packs. Just off the top of my mind. Oh yes, tie her tubes. Again. Just to make sure. (I know two of these suggestions are currently illegal in the US, but one can dream.) "It is what it is."
 

Burnt-out Catholic exorcists complain they face long lines of 'possessed' people, and little support from bishops​


A survey from a Vatican-approved religious university in Rome found that Catholic exorcists feel overworked and undersupported by bishops.

Italian exorcists spoke to researchers at Regina Apostolorum's 16th annual exorcism course in Rome, attended by 120 participants.

The course attracted a significant crowd thanks to Pope Francis's support of exorcism.

The conference's exorcists said that they needed more support from psychologists to determine whether people are mentally unstable or demonically possessed.

Father Giuseppe Bernardi claimed to have performed a nine-hour exorcism on a woman who hurled abuse in Latin and assaulted monks, the newspaper said.

The woman's father thought she was suffering from "a psychiatric problem," reported the Journal of Vicenza. But the mother, and later Bernardi, believed she was possessed by a "demonic influence".

Participants at the conference claimed that demonic possession could be recognized by unusual physical strength, vomiting, or a sudden ability to speak Latin, Hebrew, or Aramaic.

Italy has 290 exorcists, and there were 37 in Spain, the survey found. "Many of the potentially possessed people they see in Spain have spent time with New Age, spiritual or meditation groups," researchers said.

In the UK and Ireland, there were 28 working exorcists.

https://www.insider.com/catholic-exorcists-complain-too-many-possessed-people-to-handle-2022-5

maximus otter
 
maximus otter said:

Burnt-out Catholic exorcists complain they face long lines of 'possessed' people, and little support from bishops​


A survey from a Vatican-approved religious university in Rome found that Catholic exorcists feel overworked and undersupported by bishops.

Italian exorcists spoke to researchers at Regina Apostolorum's 16th annual exorcism course in Rome, attended by 120 participants.

The course attracted a significant crowd thanks to Pope Francis's support of exorcism.

The conference's exorcists said that they needed more support from psychologists to determine whether people are mentally unstable or demonically possessed.

Father Giuseppe Bernardi claimed to have performed a nine-hour exorcism on a woman who hurled abuse in Latin and assaulted monks, the newspaper said.

The woman's father thought she was suffering from "a psychiatric problem," reported the Journal of Vicenza. But the mother, and later Bernardi, believed she was possessed by a "demonic influence".

Participants at the conference claimed that demonic possession could be recognized by unusual physical strength, vomiting, or a sudden ability to speak Latin, Hebrew, or Aramaic.

Italy has 290 exorcists, and there were 37 in Spain, the survey found. "Many of the potentially possessed people they see in Spain have spent time with New Age, spiritual or meditation groups," researchers said.

In the UK and Ireland, there were 28 working exorcists.

https://www.insider.com/catholic-exorcists-complain-too-many-possessed-people-to-handle-2022-5

maximus otter
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I personally know of two cases where a priest has been called in to deal with an evil poltergeist/presence. Sorry, in both accounts the witnesses have used the term "priest" but this seems rather interchangeable in terms of actual denomination within the UK and certainly the latter witness was rather embarrassed to admit he had asked for help and so I didn't push him on this matter.

One is a work colleague who moved into a rather nondescript house in Cornwall. An upstairs bedroom emanated a sense of evil and the family dog refused to even go up the stairs. As they had children and thus had two use all the available bedrooms they called in the church and had the house "cleansed". I do not know how much "cleansing" was involved but I am told it worked and as a result he has become a born-again Christian.


The second was the Globe Inn at Milverton, Somerset and occurred when renovations took place under a new owner in the early 2000s. I was told quite sincerely by the owner that a most malevolent entity was 'unleashed' that caused an oppressive activity and poltergeist activity that including pushing people on the stairs and breaking bottles and glasses. They called in a 'priest' who again 'cleansed' the property. They were also told to always leave a light on in a particular alcove and as a result there was a lamp there that was on day and night. I stayed in the bedrooms above the pub for a number of weeks and there was absolutely no activity but I have to say it always felt cold and unwelcoming up there, but of course this may have been influenced by my insight into previous goings-on.
 
World's first exorcism centre created for 'those in bondage with the devil'

The world's first ever centre for exorcism is being constructed for those who are "in bondage with the devil".

The Archdiocese of Manila is currently building the "ground breaking" centre in the Philippines.

The centre will be used as a headquarters of the Philippine Association of Catholic Exorcists (PACE), the Ministry of Exorcism and the Ministry on Visions and Phenomena.

The Archdiocese of the Manila Office of Exorcism said it will be a “product of more than seven years of prayers, planning and fundraising.”

In a statement, the archdiocese said: "This religious structure will be the first of its kind in Asia, if not the world."

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/worlds-first-exorcism-centre-created-27220567

maximus otter
 
Exorcism as a solution to prevent mass shootings.

Former Secretary of Education Bill Bennett, during a Fox News appearance on Wednesday, suggested that expelling demons could be a way to cut back on mass shootings.

Bennett, who served as education secretary under President Ronald Reagan, weighed in on the function of “red flag” laws ― like those in Illinois ― that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of people who are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others.

Bennett, during his Fox News appearance, said parents, schools and police officers are among the people who can “pay more attention” to potential red flags for mass violence. “But, you know, you may need an exorcist, too,” he suggested.

Bennett added that young men accused of mass shootings have “deeply spiritual problems.”

“It’s a deeply spiritual void, I think, that these young men have in their hearts and their souls, and I think it needs to be addressed,” Bennett said. ...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-...sts-mass-shootings_n_62c6486fe4b0aa392d3a3e3f
 
maximus otter said:

Burnt-out Catholic exorcists complain they face long lines of 'possessed' people, and little support from bishops​


A survey from a Vatican-approved religious university in Rome found that Catholic exorcists feel overworked and undersupported by bishops.

Italian exorcists spoke to researchers at Regina Apostolorum's 16th annual exorcism course in Rome, attended by 120 participants.

The course attracted a significant crowd thanks to Pope Francis's support of exorcism.

The conference's exorcists said that they needed more support from psychologists to determine whether people are mentally unstable or demonically possessed.

Father Giuseppe Bernardi claimed to have performed a nine-hour exorcism on a woman who hurled abuse in Latin and assaulted monks, the newspaper said.

The woman's father thought she was suffering from "a psychiatric problem," reported the Journal of Vicenza. But the mother, and later Bernardi, believed she was possessed by a "demonic influence".

Participants at the conference claimed that demonic possession could be recognized by unusual physical strength, vomiting, or a sudden ability to speak Latin, Hebrew, or Aramaic.

Italy has 290 exorcists, and there were 37 in Spain, the survey found. "Many of the potentially possessed people they see in Spain have spent time with New Age, spiritual or meditation groups," researchers said.

In the UK and Ireland, there were 28 working exorcists.

https://www.insider.com/catholic-exorcists-complain-too-many-possessed-people-to-handle-2022-5

maximus otter
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I wonder if this links to the cuts in funding for the mental health services? Is there a correlation in a rise in the need for exorcists when local mental health services lose money? Because it could be people's way of drawing attention to the rising rates of mental illness...
 
ramonmercado said:
Exorcism as a solution to prevent mass shootings.

Former Secretary of Education Bill Bennett, during a Fox News appearance on Wednesday, suggested that expelling demons could be a way to cut back on mass shootings.

Bennett, who served as education secretary under President Ronald Reagan, weighed in on the function of “red flag” laws ― like those in Illinois ― that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of people who are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others.

Bennett, during his Fox News appearance, said parents, schools and police officers are among the people who can “pay more attention” to potential red flags for mass violence. “But, you know, you may need an exorcist, too,” he suggested.

Bennett added that young men accused of mass shootings have “deeply spiritual problems.”

“It’s a deeply spiritual void, I think, that these young men have in their hearts and their souls, and I think it needs to be addressed,” Bennett said. ...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-...sts-mass-shootings_n_62c6486fe4b0aa392d3a3e3f
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Of course,this is the second most obvious solution to the problem, immediately after arming the children, as suggested some time ago by "colonel Erran Morad". By the way, exorcists should be provided with semi-automatic weapons in case holy water doesn't work well enough ... :p
 
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