Films That Would Not Get Made Today

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Perhaps the Mods could delete offending posts from now on? Otherwise some people will keep testing the water, secure in the knowledge that their posts remain up but cannot be responded to after a Mod intervenes.
taken under advisement... I'm still struggling with the idea that people need to be ridden this hard. It may come to it :(
 

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Yeah, he and his associates had to pay Carpenter a total of €450,000. It went to appeal so probably cost as much if not more in legal costs.
He could of just asked carpenter if he could remake escape from New York like a normal person and a remake is on the cards with carpenter blessing and because that besson lost out he's loss.
 
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Mondo Cane. A bizarre documentary/shockumentary from Italy that showed the stranger side of life from around the world. Religious rituals, animal slaughter/abuse, unusual local tribes and their ceremonies, that kind of stuff. Weird and somewhat repulsive.
Also the Faces of Death series.
 

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Mondo Cane. A bizarre documentary/shockumentary from Italy that showed the stranger side of life from around the world. Religious rituals, animal slaughter/abuse, unusual local tribes and their ceremonies, that kind of stuff. Weird and somewhat repulsive.
Also the Faces of Death series.
Ah yes I've heard of mondo films nasty stuff but people are curious about things like that.
 

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How about some of the classic Carry On movies?

Whilst I still find Up The Khyber hugely entertaining, it is decidedly un-PC at times and Bernard Bresslaw in "blackface" wouldn't be permitted today.
 

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Absolutely, Stanley Baker bent over backwards to make sure the film was fair to both sides. He'd be horrified that it has a racist reputation. Mind you, there's a joke about it in sitcom Rising Damp from the 1970s, so it's not exactly a new phenomenon. Chief Buthelezi was in it and loves it!
Baker also made sure that the Zulus who took part were well looked after too.
 

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Whilst I still find Up The Khyber hugely entertaining, it is decidedly un-PC at times and Bernard Bresslaw in "blackface" wouldn't be permitted today.
See also Carry On Up The Jungle for Bresslaw as a native bearer.

My son and his other half bought me the entire Carry On collection for Xmas and I've rewatched most of them in chronological order (I bloody love Carry On films :) .) The early ones actually stand up quite well as typical of late fifties /early sixties British comedy: Carry On Cabby could have been a minor Ealing storyline, for example. It's only once Talbot Rothwell started scripting them that the bawdy took hold. What's striking though is that for all of their reputation, in terms of what would be found offensive by today's standards they're actually quite tame, particularly in comparison with the TV comedy of the time. A modern audience would (I think) find "Love Thy Neighbour" far more repugnant than Carry On At Your Convenience.

Of course they're dated, but given their number and frequency they do provide an interesting reflection of British attitudes over a twenty year period.
 

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See also Carry On Up The Jungle for Bresslaw as a native bearer.

My son and his other half bought me the entire Carry On collection for Xmas and I've rewatched most of them in chronological order (I bloody love Carry On films :) .) The early ones actually stand up quite well as typical of late fifties /early sixties British comedy: Carry On Cabby could have been a minor Ealing storyline, for example. It's only once Talbot Rothwell started scripting them that the bawdy took hold. What's striking though is that for all of their reputation, in terms of what would be found offensive by today's standards they're actually quite tame, particularly in comparison with the TV comedy of the time. A modern audience would (I think) find "Love Thy Neighbour" far more repugnant than Carry On At Your Convenience.

Of course they're dated, but given their number and frequency they do provide an interesting reflection of British attitudes over a twenty year period.
Agreed. When I first saw Up the Khyber I did a double take and thought blimey, did Bresslaw really say something that sounded like "Faqir Off!"? Obviously sugar-coating the days of the Raj and poking fun at foreign names and titles (the Wazir's rebellion becoming the "Revolting Khazi" etc.) would be a red flag today.
 

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The early ones actually stand up quite well as typical of late fifties /early sixties British comedy: Carry On Cabby could have been a minor Ealing storyline, for example. It's only once Talbot Rothwell started scripting them that the bawdy took hold.
Are the early 'Carry On' films less... rude, then?

You see, I love 50s and 60s British films, they're by far my favourite era. But I don't like rude stuff, so I avoid Carry On films like the plague... can't be doing with any of that sort of humour. But I'm curious to hear that some early ones are different... I do, for instance, love Ealing comedies; so are the early ones 'better' in that respect, then?


On topic: I can't think of any films I've watched that couldn't be made today :shy: I must live a sheltered existence.
 

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See also Carry On Up The Jungle for Bresslaw as a native bearer.

My son and his other half bought me the entire Carry On collection for Xmas and I've rewatched most of them in chronological order (I bloody love Carry On films :) .) The early ones actually stand up quite well as typical of late fifties /early sixties British comedy: Carry On Cabby could have been a minor Ealing storyline, for example. It's only once Talbot Rothwell started scripting them that the bawdy took hold. What's striking though is that for all of their reputation, in terms of what would be found offensive by today's standards they're actually quite tame, particularly in comparison with the TV comedy of the time. A modern audience would (I think) find "Love Thy Neighbour" far more repugnant than Carry On At Your Convenience.

Of course they're dated, but given their number and frequency they do provide an interesting reflection of British attitudes over a twenty year period.
I said it before about Carry On films that people fail to understand that every film had strong women often getting the better of hapless men. It wasn't just about boobs and bums.

On the Buses is far more offensive and basically unwatchable and not funny in the slightest. ITV had some stinkers in the 70's.
 

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Are the early 'Carry On' films less... rude, then?.. I'm curious to hear that some early ones are different... I do, for instance, love Ealing comedies; so are the early ones 'better' in that respect, then?
Yes, they're almost a different genre altogether. Cabby, Sergeant, Regardless are all gentle, slightly whimsical black and white British comedies. Think Boulting Brothers. From about '64 onwards they started upping the sauce, but as Naughty Felid rightly pointed out the seaside postcard aspect does play a part, with women often holding the actual power.
 

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...for all of their reputation, in terms of what would be found offensive by today's standards they're actually quite tame...
The entire film collection is rated 15, and l’d bet that that's for Carry On Emmanuelle alone. From memory, all the rest are at most PG, even for Camping, the one where you (don’t) see Babs’ babs.

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Obviously Zulu, because it showed colonials in a positive light, and any of those old Westerns that depicted the Apaches, Comanches etc. as anything other than enlightened heroes.
Bone Tomahawk (2015) features a tribe who are sadistic, giant, inbred, cannibalistic monsters.

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I doubt that Clockwork Orange would see the light of day. The violence pretty tame compared to Hollywood blockbusters, but the sexual themes and the subversive elements probably would not get touched now.
 

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In Leon I felt Reno and Portman had more of a father/daughter relationship. Did I miss something?
 

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cruising.I think al Pacino has distanced himself from that film I think some people may have found to be homophobic and I have seen it as teen God it's definitely not a film suitable under 18 but it did not bothered me and I think was under 18 when I get seen it when I had cable in my room.
There's a strange film out in UK cinemas this week called Knife + Heart about a serial killer preying on gay men. It's set in the world of gay porn. Vanessa Paradis is the star. Obviously not mainstream, but worth a look for the adventurous.
 

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It was Portman who was suggesting to other characters in the film that Reno was her "lover". Nothing untoward occurred between them.
But Besson has been #metoo-ed for his alleged preference for underage girlfriends.
 

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*nodding* I nearly added that I thought that it wouldn't get made in the same way now, but didn't want to influence anyone commenting :)
 
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