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- Jul 14, 2014
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But I see it as a mere mortal turning bread into the actual flesh and blood of God. I just can't square it, if a priest is given that sort of Magic by God then why not the power to heal? I could accept a real presence in the bread though.Yes, it is "magic" and for me, demonstrates why so much is possible. Will, ritual and an external force.
Hehe, if he had just called it LaVeyanism then it would never have been as successful, as contentious and as notorious as it in fact became. The naming ambiguity was important.Mark R,
Maybe if he had simply called it LaVeyism then the ambiguity would have been avoided.
Yes, I often stare at the star-filled sky (well, as star-filled as it gets in London). The vastness of it, the wonder of the fact that the little points of light are all stars, most with their own planets, far, far away never ceases to awe me. I try to get my head round it, and try to imagine what it might be like to be on one of the planets orbiting one of those stars, looking up into the night sky there.Find a dark sky. Look up. Wonder at the vastness.
That’s spiritual enough for me.
Some years ago, my Daughter was in Turkey and sent a lengthy text one late night, expressing how overwhelming it was, just to simply take a moment to herself on the beach and observe the most clearest nighttime sky ever imaginable.Find a dark sky. Look up. Wonder at the vastness.
That’s spiritual enough for me.
Oh...I'm sure he meant all of us, himself too.......he was a humorist, armchair philosopher and 'trickster'...he once referred to himself as a guerilla ontologist.Dr wu,
May I take it that he included himself in that ?
You are right though. No one knows what the really big picture is. It is just too big with too many unknowns.
Leonard Susskin suggests that anyone who knows says they know how quantum physics works is fooling them selves. No one knows.
But they use their best estimate and work with it anyway.
Perhaps not only myself who appreciates this..One of my favorite films (the earlier version is also very good) ...based on Razors Edge by Maugham of course.....it sums up the 'religious experience' for me ..I used to read a great deal about Eastern mysticism in college and after for many years and even practiced Zen bench sitting and meditation aspects of Vipassana for a few years. I simply didn't have the patience so gave it up....though I still use eastern precepts when it comes to religion and metaphysics.
Well....not trying to be cautious here...but conclusion on what exactly?Perhaps not only myself who appreciates this..
Ultimatey, what is your conclusion?
Hmm... (maybe just wondering if you have come up with the answer!).Well....not trying to be cautious here...but conclusion on what exactly?
Oh...because I'm an old man ...is that what you meant?Hmm... (maybe just wondering if you have come up with the answer!).
On life, the Universe and everything...
You've had long enough now!
Am I alone in now contemplating... fair dialogue, or should never have asked you in the first place...Oh...because I'm an old man ...is that what you meant?
To be honest, as Ram Dass once said," it's an answer you have 'to be' not one you 'can know'." Or as Haguin once said..."Your coming and going is nowhere but where you are.' Or T S Eliot once said, "We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time."
That's the best I can do when someone asks me about the meaning of it all.
There you have my view as well. I've met many people of different religions. Those who are simply believers do appear to have some kind of inner peace. Those fanatics, zealots and their ilk display exactly the opposite characteristics and the irony of their behaviour seems to elude them completely.And this is what I'm getting at. I am jealous of people who have found religion, who believe in something else - be it life after death, a deity or some other spiritual level. I want that "inner peace" and tranquility that comes from knowing.