Hmm...
Psyber said:
Andro: Timble provides some good ones immediately previous to our posts, as does Ruff.
Timble's post about the waters around Cyprus is certainly interesting, however, where's the actual evidence for a drowned, antediluvian civilisation? The Lost Lands of the North Sea concern early mesolithic hunter-gatherers, no question of a technological, pyramid building culture there.
If, by Ruff's post you mean,
Then, interesting though the news reports about the apparent structures in the deep sea, off Cuba are, there's been little, or nothing concrete to be seen since and the sonar pictures, could easily be natural, geometric, geological formations. Really. And most of the links don't seem to work.
As for
Agharti, where are the photos and artifacts? Excavations? Expeditions? Anything more solid than the old
'Dero,' Shambala,' myths, or the dubious extrapolations of the work of Erich von Daniken?
Psyber said:
Here is a small taste of the other information available:
http://www.earthfiles.com/
Alleged Cuba, ruins, see above.
Psyber said:
Yes. Cuba, ditto. Undersea ruins off Japan, some interesting photos, might be artificial stone formations, some that look very much like unusual natural geological formations, little hard evidence, or proper excavation evidence to be see.
'Cambay' off coast of India, where's the photos, who estimated the ancient dates, where's the proof?
Psyber [/i][b]
[url]http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/cambay1.php[/url][/quote] Yes. Well Graham Hancock said:
"More megalithic structures found off the coast of Yonaguni-jima, Japan"
Yes, in an occasional photo, formations look temptingly artificial and man made, but then some of the photos seem more likely to show unusual geological formations, perhaps of basaltic lava, once again we're talking about an area of major volcanic and seismic activity, so where does that get us re. dates?
Psyber said:
Graham Hancock involved, Nothing posted on this one, since: Thursday, 11 April, 2002, 15:54 GMT 16:54 UK. Where's the proof of dates and a report, or update?
More about the undersea ruins off India, from two years ago, no updates, recently. Mention of Graham Hancock's involvment prominent. We've already had one, or two of the photos on,
http://www.india-atlantis.org/ But, appart from some pictures of some 'stone blocks' where's the good stuff and why are there so many charming, and inconsequential, tourist shots?
Psyber said:
http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/04/11/wtemp11.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/04/
Daily Telegraph (Filed: 11/04/2002)
"India's National Institute of Oceanography, which was involved in the discovery, believes the ruins at Mahabalipuram in Tamil Nadu could be 1,200 to 1,500 years old.
But Mr Hancock, who argues that civilisation predates the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians by thousands of years, believes the city could go back to 3,000 BC."
I'm sure he does, but where's his proof? And 3000
bc is still along way away from 9000
bc. That's 6ooo years difference!
Bit of recalibration going on there.
Psyber said:
The site's been re-organised, but it's mostly there to promote Hindu mysticism, nothing wrong with that, but put's damper on the possibility of hard proof.
Psyber said:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_563330.html?sessid=18cfe062464baa830fc938c
"Divers find ruins of mythical city off India
Explorers believe they have discovered remains of a mythical city off the coast of India.
According to legend it was swallowed up by the sea about 2,000 years ago."
...
"In January scientists announced the discovery of an ancient metropolis 120ft under the sea in the Gulf of Khambhat, north-west India, which could be one of the oldest cities known. Fragments of pottery, carved wood, bone and beads have been dated to more than 9,000 years old.
Mr Hancock believes the discovery supports his theory that complex civilisations existed in the Ice Age but were wiped out when the ice melted, submerging 15 million square miles of land."[/B]
Story filed: 10:45 Wednesday 10th April 2002
So, we're back to the times of Ice Age, again. but, is there a report about the dating of the artifacts, bone and wood fragments that's more creditable than a mention in an Ananova news report?
And the two sites, two dates? The City that sunk beneath the sea 2000 years ago and the site with the inundated ancient temples that supposedly dates back to the Ice Age? A certain cavalier atitude to dates and sites, martialled into the proving of Graham Hancock's Ancient Ice Age Civilisation Theory, curious, or what?
Psyber said:
Page not available, when I checked.
Psyber said:
Couldn't get to this page.
Psyber said:
Already covered this one above.
So, what have we got? A handful of recently discovered sites, some like those off Cyprus, mostly supposition, little proof. Some, like those of the coast of North East England, where the dating is early, but the mesolithic culture is reasonably well understood and bears little resemblance to that of the fabled Atlantis. Some, like those off Cuba, Japan and India, with a handful of tantalising, but unsatisfying photos and sonar images, and some enthusiatic dating, little else.
When will we get to see some
decent and clear evidence for all this supposition?
When it turns up, I'll be one of the first to cheer!
And where are the pyramids of unknown origin?