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Flying Humanoid Entities & Figures (General; Miscellaneous)

WulversStane

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I was watching a documentary on Mothman that comes on the Mothman Prophecies DVD (it's called In Search Of Mothman, seems like it was a TV programme), and it makes references to sightings of a Mothman type creature in the run up to Chernobyl and also in Mexico City just before the earthquake in the 80s. These had been mentioned in the film itself, and I'd assumed that they were made up just to hammer home the Mothman as an ill omen idea, but does anyone know if they were actually reported at the time? I've tried googling, but most of what comes up seem to either reference the film and/or documentary, and nothing seems to predate it. There's this which talks about the Ukrainian sightings (which seem to be a "big bird" rather than Mothman), but it's unreferenced:

http://www.americanmonsters.com/monsters/avian/index.php?detail=article&idarticle=219
 
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Mothman is described, for all intents and purposes, as a very large bird. The name 'Mothman" was chosen was because "Big Bird" was on Sesame Street. So any information you find referring to mysterious bird sightings would be your best route of study.
 
As part of the Fortean Walks I've been doing (shameless plug, see announcements) I've discovered what may be London's local Mothman, at Lincoln's Inn of all places. Has anyone else heard about this phenomena,
I don't want to say more at the moment as I'd like to compare any responces with what other sources have told me. I'm also doing some more research on it at the moment for the Walks. You don't have to come on then to hear more however as I'll post here whatever I discover.

Steve

[Emp edit: Adding in link to the announcements thread.]
 
this is from www.paranormaldatabase.com

Black Winged Creature

Location: WC1 - Old Chambers, Lincoln's Inn (no longer standing)
Type: Cryptozoology
Date / Time: 1913?
"Further Comments: Charles Appleby was found dead in his room here, large claw marks on his arms and neck, the door and windows locked from the inside. Witnesses outside the building who could see into his room through a window said they could see the man fighting a shadowy bird like creature, though it was at least the same size as Appleby. Reports of the creature continued for a while afterwards, and one team of investigators who put down chalk dust during their stakeout recording finding large claw marks in the dust the following day."

and also this from http://www.myusm.com/usm206170.html (the poster says he 'got it from a book')

Claws of Terror
Category:(Urban Legends) Created:(1/2/2002 5:41:00 PM) Viewed (496 times)

"i pinched this from a book... its not bad though.
A group of men were standing near the lodge of the legal offices at Lincoln's Inn, London, on the evening of 25 Feb 1913. They heard a terrifing scream. they looked up and saw, silhouetted in a window, the figure of a man fighting off an invisible assailiant. They rushed up the stairs to the first floor office but they were too late - Charles Appleby, a young barrister, lay dead on teh floor covered in blood. In the months that followed, a number of other tenants occupied the offices but they all left because of the evil atmosphere that was present. A short while later, another barrister, John Radlettm, was found hanged in the same office where Charles Appleby had been found. Ther were deep scratches on the inside of his locked door. They looked as if they head been made by the claws of and enormous bird. When stories began to circulate about the ghost bird that haunted the offices in Lincoln's Inn, two newspaper editors, Sir Max Permberton and Ralph Blaumenfeild decided to investigate. They locked themselves in the ill-famed room, sprinkled powdered French chalk all over the floor and bean their vigil. The two men spent the evening palying cards, by midnight, they were getting bored with teh whole idea. It seemed obvious that nothing untoward was going to happen. They were about to leave when the locked door swung open. The windows, which had been bolted shut, also opened by themselves and the harsh wind entered the room, extinguishing the gaslight. There was a horrific beating noise which sounded like the flapping of enormous wings. In the dim light the two men could just see a large dark object moving across the room and out through a wall. Then the noise stopped and the light came back on. A reporter, who had been waiting downstairs heard the commotion, rushed into the room and all three men stared in disbelief at the flare. In the chalk, running from the centre of the room to the corner, were a set of gigantic claw marks! A few years later the building was demolished and the giant bird, if that is what it was, was never seen again. "

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Intriguing... Reminds me of the 50 Berkeley Square Ghost!
 
Anyone else slightly encouraged by the thought of something preying on lawyers?

and the scarf, too, please
 
Fascinating. Was this a solitary sighting? Have there ever been any others?
 
I wish people would say what book they're lifting a story from.

This one strikes me as being a bit too good....
 
This was more or less the story I knew and told on my first Fortean Walk there. The extra details from the book are interesting, most sources I've seen are quite vague and say the details are uncertain.

But someone on this walk told me he'd served in the Army regiment based at Lincoln's Inn, and apparently they've always had this phantom creature in their cellar! It sounds like the same thing and its haunted their underground armory (or what was there armory) for the past century. So should me still there.

I'm currently trying to find out more from the regiment but they are not forthcoming. Not sure if I could get access to the armory/cellar though.
But given reputation would insist on armed escort! Would be wonderfully Quatermass :)

Steve
 
Sounds like the Cornish owlman combining with the Horror of Berkley Square.
Then again, the description does sound like a memeber of the legal profession.
 
But someone on this walk told me he'd served in the Army regiment based at Lincoln's Inn, and apparently they've always had this phantom creature in their cellar! It sounds like the same thing and its haunted their underground armory (or what was there armory) for the past century. So should me still there


That's the Inns of Court and City Yeomanry? They've got a museum at 10 Stone Buildings, Lincoln's Inn... never been, but maybe their cellar is open as part of the museum? I might be passing that way tomorrow so I'll have a look ;)

In the chalk, running from the centre of the room to the corner, were a set of gigantic claw marks!

or, maybe not :shock:
 
So it's quite well known of amongst people who have frequented there. But is it only the one sighting?
 
zygmunt said:
But someone on this walk told me he'd served in the Army regiment based at Lincoln's Inn, and apparently they've always had this phantom creature in their cellar! It sounds like the same thing and its haunted their underground armory (or what was there armory) for the past century. So should me still there


That's the Inns of Court and City Yeomanry? They've got a museum at 10 Stone Buildings, Lincoln's Inn... never been, but maybe their cellar is open as part of the museum? I might be passing that way tomorrow so I'll have a look ;)

In the chalk, running from the centre of the room to the corner, were a set of gigantic claw marks!

or, maybe not :shock:

Thats them. Their nickname is the 'Devil's Own' so perhaps he's their commanding officer and lives downstairs! They were formed in the Elizabethan period (by the Earl of Leicester according to one unverified source, so maybe his mate Dee is involved). They are said by insiders I have spoken to to have 'unique traditions', and to refer to each other as 'sir', regardless of rank, and also to be closely linked to the Masons, who recruit from all ranks.

The site of their base was of course a military training area for the Knights Templar, later taken over by the Knights of Lazarus, originally disfigured leper knights, who for short periods could fight like 'zombie knights' without pain on injury. Later they became just another monastic medieval association and a 'subgroup' of the Templars (according to some sources they were founded by the Templars), though they still had effigies of leper knights outside the Lincoln Inn monastry according to one source (to scare people off?). Eventually they were bought out by the Earl of Lincoln (in some versions) who sold it on to the lawyers (in emulation of what had happened at the Temple Inn).

I haven't found a direct link between these two histories, which are seperated by a gap of about two centuries, but the Yeomanry were originally a volunteer force recruited from the lawyers of Lincolns Inn,
the Temple and Grey's Inn.

Steve
 
Curious Ident said:
So it's quite well known of amongst people who have frequented there. But is it only the one sighting?

The lawyer death story was originally a stand alone account of 1913 (maybe), later there is mention of the psychic investigators who detect the footprints and see things (from one source I think). After this nothing.

The person who told me of the military tradition was an ex solder in the regiment who hadn't heard the story but connected it to the regiments story, of this 'black winged apparition' in the armory seen by many solders. This was confirmed by another independent source who mentioned the 'ghost in the armory', though without description. The regiments explanation according to the first source was that it represents the regiments dead in WWI (putting its source close to the 1913 event).


Steve
 
The regiments explanation according to the first source was that it represents the regiments dead in WWI (putting its source close to the 1913 event).

Sorry, I'm a bit confused... the winged creature represents the regiments dead?
 
They always wanted to get their hands on an airplane so when good members died, they grew wings and flew to glory...
 
It's as good a theory as any. Completely fabricated and unfounded on evidence, mind ...
 
Stormkhan said:
It's as good a theory as any. Completely fabricated and unfounded on evidence, mind ...

But why let a little thing like THAT get in the way...? :roll:
 
Flying Humanoid of Mexico City?

The Rense site is full of Mexican UFO wonders. Most seem to be daytime balls of light which may be some curious weather phenomenon, though they are often characterized as Fleets of UFOs.

This page has stills and an MPEG of an alleged Flying Humanoid:

http://www.rense.com/general66/flyinga.htm

:?
 
What amazes me is why people cant put screen stabaliser on, its pretty standard with nearly all camcorders.
 
From the description of its movement, it sounds like a balloon...

The picture's so shakey it's hard to tell what's going on.

"Then the dark body started moving to the right slowly, and rose several feet in the sky and then hovered again, completely still. I kept recording all the time. I was very nervious trying to control myself and I taped the thing the best I could."

"After several minutes the dark figure moved again to the left, disappearing behind the building's roof. The sighting lasted about ten minutes. I don't have any clue what this weird thing was. At the end, my sister said, "That was odd!!"
 
It's flitting around like some kind of insect. More moth than Mothman, IMHO.
 
There is a huge tradition of flying humanoids. For example:

paranormal.about.com/cs/humanenigmas/a/aa082503.htm
Link (and website / service) are dead. The original webpage from which the incidents listed below are drawn can be accessed via the Wayback Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/2013040...rmal.about.com/cs/humanenigmas/a/aa082503.htm

NOTE: These incidents were excerpted from page 1 of s 2-page presentation. See a later post for the page 2 material.


Brooklyn Batman.
Over 100 years ago, a man named W. H. Smith told the New York Sun that he saw a "winged human form" flying over Brooklyn, New York on September 18, 1877. Just about three years later, there were multiple reports from Coney Island, Brooklyn, of a man with bat-like wings flying overhead at approximately 1,000 feet. The man was flying toward the New Jersey coast, witnesses told the New York Times, and that he bore a "cruel and determined expression" on his face.

Wingless Angel.
It's easy to dismiss such sightings as misidentified birds or alcohol-induced illusions when one or two people report them. When as many as 240 people, however, attest to seeing the same thing, the reports are far more difficult to discount. Such a sighting look place over several of days in June, 1905 in Voltana, Spain. The accounts consistently described a woman dressed in white flying through the air - without the aid of wings. The woman sometimes flew against the wind, and one woman said she might have heard it singing as it passed overhead.

Flying Robot.
It was the winter of 1936 in the Pavlodar region of Kazakhstan in what was then the U.S.S.R. when this sighting took place. Mrs. E. E. Loznaya was a 15-year-old girl then, and one day as she was walking to school on a quiet road, her attention was caught by a strange figure above her. Flying quickly across the sky was a man-like figure dressed completely in black. Despite its speed, the girl was able to see and describe it clearly. He was "of medium height and his black clothes covered him completely, like overalls," she said. It made a rumbling noise and appeared to her to be wearing a helmet of some kind, had a black surface where the face should have been, and wore a "rucksack" on its back.

Russian Legend.
There had been legends of a flying man in the Soviet Union, but not quite like the one described above. Hunters around the Sikhote Mountains near Vladivostok claimed to have come across prints of a barefoot human that ended abruptly, as if he had taken off into the air. Such a creature was actually seen by writer V.K. Arsenyev in July, 1908. "I saw the mark on the path that was very similar to a man's footprint... then something rushed about nearby trampling among the bushes. Then I stooped, picked up a stone and threw it towards the unknown animal. Then something happened that was quite unexpected: I heard the beating of wings. Something large and dark emerged from the fog and flew over the river."

Brazilian Birdmen.
In the early 1950s, a couple was taking an evening stroll near their home by the sea at Pelotas, Brazil. When two fast-moving shadows crossed their path, they looked up to see what they at first thought were two enormous birds flying about 30 feet above the ground. It was soon evident to the couple that these were not birds at all when the two flying creatures descended vertically and landed not far away. It was then clear that they looked like men, standing about six feet tall. Discovering they were being watched by the couple, the two "birdmen" squatted close to the ground, as if trying to hide. The female half of the couple convinced her husband to leave - and quickly.

But the far-away photography on this makes it fairly inconclusive to me....
 
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Okay, I need to vent about this because I am scared and I do NOT know why. Lately there have been many reports of sightings of flying/floating entities...particularly in Mexico. To see some of the reports go to http://www.rense.com
Well, I have had experiences with entities of that nature but that was so darn long ago that many of my experiences feel like dreams. And now this is happening and I cannot explain why I am so scared.
Does anyone have any insight into this? Why am I freaking out? It's really getting to me and everytime I see a pic with a humanoid in the sky it just...I don't know.
I don't even know why I am telling anyone. Maybe I am hoping for any explanation which is probably impossible.

WW
 
WonderWoman said:
Well, I have had experiences with entities of that nature but that was so darn long ago that many of my experiences feel like dreams.

Fancy telling us about them?

If anyone wants to follow it up the Flying Mexican Humanoid is being discussed here:

forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22666
Link is obsolete. The current thread / link is:


Policeman Attacked By Flying Humanoid (Mexico; 2004)
https://forums.forteana.org/index.p...ttacked-by-flying-humanoid-mexico-2004.12955/
 
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