It has been reprinted as a hardback in recent years. I regret not snagging the copy I saw in a charity shop two or three years ago.the prostitutes of Covent Garden
I have a regular contract there. It is a place apart , like most small islands. The dutch cottages are still there, and the locals still think of it as several separate areas although to a stranger it looks like one single suburb. I love the place. If you ever do visit PM me and I can give you some contacts.Canvey island is a strange place in itself.
It isan artificial amalgamation of several small islands, by Dutch engineers.
Still has a Dutch village.
I have never been but would love to visit.
.After Wood’s death, his daughter Evelyn asked Forsyth, who was the village handyman, if he could make use of some old glass. Forsyth snapped up the offer and cleared away two lorry-loads from the Wood household. Two lorry-loads of glass negatives!
What surely must have amounted to thousands of these unique photographic plates were then washed clean and used to glaze greenhouses and sheds. Others were trampled underfoot as “rubble” before being concreted over to make bases for those same buildings
At one stage a mate of mine lived in a loft whose insulation was held up with printing plates. I don't know the technology but they were large sheets of tin with the type and so on impressed in to them. i know nothing about vintage printing, but no doubt someone on here will know what process was involved." . . . thousands of these unique photographic plates were then washed clean and used to glaze greenhouses and sheds."
My grandfather, belonged very much to the "these-will-come-in-handy" generation. His sheds were filled with old negatives on glass plates, liberated from the local newspaper. History of a sort! I occasionally wonder what kind of images they would have rendered, had they been spared to go on a modern scanner.
I gather that newspapers used glass plates as part of the photogravure process, so they were not necessarily ancient - he retired about 1960.
From what I remember, they were not artistic at all, mainly groups at weddings, dances and masonic dinners. Ironically, I don't think they were ever actually used for makeshift glazing, just shed-hoarded, like so many other things!
It isn't often on this board that I can bring to bear something that I learned at university (many years ago) so I hope that you'll bear with me for quoting a post over two years old.So: I must ask whether the original literal meaning of the word 'desert' meant "a remote deserted place of any climate"? As opposed to a hot (only) deserted place, as is now what the word means....
Alternatively: was Longfellow writing in metaphor?? Ice deserts?
From the notes for the work above :"This man who goes to seek a solitude in the ocean, will not be buried in a solitude, but will be buried in that place where a woman will drive sheep across his grave." And so the same Baitan, after long wanderings over stormy waters, not finding the desert, returned home and remained there many years the master of a small monastic house
And in a light-bulb moment I've suddenly realised from where the word "deserter" might come. The Life describes "deserters" as those people who left their lords and masters in order to seek such a solitude or 'desert':An ocean solitude
That is, a desert island in the ocean, where he might live as a hermit.
To day, once more desiring to find a solitude, Cormac is beginning to sail out from that region which, situated beyond the river Moy, is called Eirros Domno ; yet will he not even this time find what he looks for ; and this for no other fault of his than that he has taken with him on the voyage the monk of a certain religious abbot without his permission, a deserter, who ought not rightly to accompany him."
So, certainly historically, a desert was a place of solitude, rather than a place boasting a certain climate.I promised with rigorous oath that I would serve him all the days of my life. But after a few days passed in servitude, disdaining- to serve man and wishing rather to obey God, I became a deserter from that earthly lord, and broke my oath and fled, and I have come to thee, the Lord prospering my journey."
Title: Harris's List of Covent Garden Ladies or Man of Pleasure's Kalendar for the Year, 1788A 250(ish) year old guide to the prostitutes of Covent Garden .. (from smaggers at B3TA)
We encourage folks to delve into the elder recesses of the forum's postings and revisit past themes and discussions. Some of the most substantive threads have accreted via a series of on-again / off-again discussions strung out over many years.It isn't often on this board that I can bring to bear something that I learned at university (many years ago) so I hope that you'll bear with me for quoting a post over two years old.
There's a connection, but I'm not sure it's quite the same as you suspect. According to the Online Etymological Dictionary:... And in a light-bulb moment I've suddenly realised from where the word "deserter" might come. The Life describes "deserters" as those people who left their lords and masters in order to seek such a solitude or 'desert':
Thanks for your comment EnolaGaia, the connection between the verb and noun had never really dawned on me until I was actually writing the post and as I said; it was an 'OMG' moment.... the noun "desert" originally connoted something abandoned / forsaken and only later came to mean a particular type of barren / arid place. This preceded the earliest known usage as a verb, which similarly meant "to abandon" / "to forsake", and only later came to specifically mean "to leave without permission."
Indeed ... Used as an adjective, "desert" originally meant "deserted" (uninhabited; abandoned) rather than "desert-like" (arid, sandy, etc.).This double-meaning of "desert" is responsible, I suppose, for the cliché of the cartoon desert-island ...
An interesting longish article about the Paris massacre.Inspired by something I mentioned on another thread...
http://www2.forteantimes.com/forum/view ... 888#866888
...regarding the Paris Massacre of 1961.
It struck me that I knew nothing of this incident, something that happened less than 20 years before my birth, but feel it is something that we should know about - regardless of whose version of events you believe.
I then remembered something else I only learned of recently which is similarly 'unremembered'. Maybe these things have just slipped through my personal radar, but I'm fairly confident that, unless you are from Wearside, you will never have heard of the Victoria Hall Disaster of 1883.
http://wearsideonline.com/the_victoria_ ... aster.html
I only heard about this a few years ago. I know it is over 100 years ago, but considering the scale of death (183) and that they were near all children I am surprised that this isn't an event wider known in the UK. We all know about Aberfan, obviously more recent, and in 100 years I'm sure people will know of Hillsborough but this - to my knowledge - is a forgotten chapter of Britain's, relatively, recent past.
See also the Tay Rail Bridge...
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/ta ... bridge.htm
This one I did know about, mainly due to annual holidays to Aberdeen involving a trip over the Forth and Tay bridges which I always was afraid would collapse while the Intercity train was crossing!
Maybe these incidents have been forgotten for a reason, but there are other historical events - recent and long past - that seem to be well remembered.
I'd be interested to hear of other historic incidents - maybe well known locally but not wider - or things that have for one reason or another slipped from our national conciousness.